Aw imr 18650 that comes with the Lt

[Scotay87]

AW stands for Allen Wang...Allen Wang (that is the name he uses anyway) is a Chinese gentleman that got his start selling batteries in the Candle Power forums (flashlight enthusiasts) and became popular for drop shipping cheap batteries to the USA. I'm not sure about the Andrew Wong name.

Sure. I plan I doing one anyway. I hope they turn out O.K.

Stand corrected... Andrew Wong was in my head for some reason.... Did not see a name reference in the quick search I did at the time...

Cheers...


BTW... You should be very happy with the performance of that Panasonic cell from what I have read... If I did not have 4 AW's IMR's rotating right now I would be all over that deal you got...

 

[Chosen_1]

Ordered a batt from volcano 9bucks and some change using the coupon..and 2$ first classwhich takes just as long as the flat rate since I'm acouple if islands away... I ail gonna try the one sad got. Can't wait for his review.....

 

[Scotay87]

Both batts should generally function the same... vape time should be considerably longer and I would be curious to see if the max voltage under load drop is at the same voltage...

 

[Chosen_1]

My aw1600 mah is at 3.4 now.... My new batt is brig picked up@the mail box. I'm pretty sure thats the same as aw. Just with the real shrink wrap. Sears sell a trustfire 18650 but didn't check to see if its re chargable.

 

[Scotay87]

From what I have learned from the forums any thing with "Fire" in the name generally means inflated mah rating and inconsistent discharge time or longevity... Also frequently counterfeited...

Excluding the Trust-Fire flame jackets (red and black)...

 

[Chosen_1]

Love knowing this new stuff...

Scott do you think buying a twin pack of un protected batts are ok with the LT since its got the pcb in it? I just thought of that, but like other people said some cut off and some don't. I think I need to get a load meyer to check this under load.my 1.5dc tastes and feel like 5 volts@that setting... I mean its hot...

Just got my new batt.do I need to or should I charge it first?

 

[Scotay87]

Love knowing this new stuff...

Scott do you think buying a twin pack of un protected batts are ok with the LT since its got the pcb in it? I just thought of that, but like other people said some cut off and some don't. I think I need to get a load meyer to check this under load.my 1.5dc tastes and feel like 5 volts@that setting... I mean its hot...

Just got my new batt.do I need to or should I charge it first?

The battery should have a decent initial charge on it already... Slap that puppy in and check with the 7 clicks to check the voltage...

As far as using other batteries I would stick with the AW IMR or that Panasonic... Reason being is the IMR has a higher discharge potential that pushes the boost circuit that pushes the higher voltages... Also an added line of safety just in case the internal protection failed...

Inline meter is pretty nice to have to check voltage and the loaded voltage... Got mine from RTD Vapor as well as some of my AWs pretty sure it is made by Mad Vapes though... Multimeter is also useful to check the ohms on your atties/cartos... My last order of boges were way off from what they were suppose to be... Not one was 3.0 they pretty much all ranged from 2.6-2.8... Not a big deal but nice to know...

 

[Chosen_1]

Will it ruin the batt if I take it off the charger when its not done?

 

[Scotay87]

Nope... Your fine to do so...

 

[Chosen_1]

Ty scott I'm in need of a fix..

 

[mwa102464]

Have any of you guys tried the AW-3100 Black IC Batt to see if it fits in your Lava Tubes ? ya I know its not an IMR but if anyone has one see if it fits for me please. You will get twice the run times using this Batt if it fits in my opinion, and it is a safe Batt with Protection though it's not an IMR,,,,,, So if anyone has one please see if it fits for me, I'm curious to see, as well as what kind of run times you get with using this Batt, which I think will be dam close to twice the run times compared to the AW IMR,,,,, another one you may wan to try is the MNKE with a small rare earth magnet on top, I run both of these in my Provari and they work fantastic, so does the Redilast 2900 & 3100 Batts

 

[Chosen_1]

I will definitely keep these in mind.

 

[Scotay87]

it should fit but you will end up with a gap between the cap and the body and wont be able to screw the cap on all the way, but it should fit.

But the Li-ion Cobalt's don't have the same internal current amps that the IMR's have and the booster in the LT really needs those higher amps to boost the voltage up to the higher volts on the device.

But if you are just looking for longer lasting over the high end volt vaping they should fit and work ok.

Pretty much what I would have said Joe...

 

[mwa102464]

it should fit but you will end up with a gap between the cap and the body and wont be able to screw the cap on all the way, but it should fit.

But the Li-ion Cobalt's don't have the same internal current amps that the IMR's have and the booster in the LT really needs those higher amps to boost the voltage up to the higher volts on the device.

But if you are just looking for longer lasting over the high end volt vaping they should fit and work ok.

I kind of beg to differ with you joIinferno on this, ( other then the size thing possibly ) the 3100 AW, note the 3100 has a 6.2 Amp Discharge rate and 25C rating where the IMR has only a 4.5Amp and 15C, here is a spec comparison below, I have been using the 3100's in my 2 Provaris and they far out run and perform the IMR AW, further more the Black IC is a protected Batt, the IMR is not, though the IMR is a safer chemistry it could still vent where the IC AW 3100 has protection. I use a simple black O-Ring over my end cap and screw it together till the bottom cap makes contact with the o-ring. Other than size which the 3100 is a bit bigger and the may need the oring ( like the Provari uses with there non IMR ) most folks wouldn't want to use the oring but I find it no big deal myself. I like the AW-3100 now over the IMR Also using the Redilast 3100 series and it is of a high quality Batt as well,,,,,, On the flip side I also just got a shipment of some Callie's Kustoms IMR 2250's and these also seem like a very high quality Batt. Just my 2c worth. I am NOT putting the AW IMR down by any means as I am an avid AW IMR user, however these newer 3100 AW & Redilast are outperforming my IMR 18650's now and after using the new Callies Kustoms today I think these very well are going to out perform the AW IMR 18650 too.

Lastly I think anyone using a lessor grade than any of these Batts mentioned just to save a few bucks is nuts.

By the way, the MNKE 18650 and bigger Batts are also a very good performer's and should not be over looked !

SPECIFICATIONS:

Nominal Voltage : 3.6V
Capacity : 3100mAH ( rated at 0.2C discharge 4.2V - 2.5V @ 25℃ )
Operating Temp. : Charge 0 to 45℃ / Discharge -20 to 60 ℃
Recommended Charge Rate : max. 2170mA ( 0.7C ) - ambient temp. 25 ℃
Max. Discharge Rate : 6.2A ( ambient temp. 25 ℃ )
Dimensions :18.50 X 68.16mm ( +/- 0.3mm )

Nominal Voltage : 3.7V
Capacity : 1600mAH
Lowest Discharge Voltage : 2.50V
Standard Charge : CC/CV ( max. charging rate 4.5A )
Cycle Life : > 500 cycles
Max. continuous discharge rate : 15C
Operating Discharge Temperature : -10 - 60 Degree Celsius

 

[Scotay87]

I kind of beg to differ with you joIinferno on this, ( other then the size thing possibly ) the 3100 AW, note the 3100 has a 6.2 Amp Discharge rate and 25C rating where the IMR has only a 4.5Amp and 15C, here is a spec comparison below, I have been using the 3100's in my 2 Provaris and they far out run and perform the IMR AW, further more the Black IC is a protected Batt, the IMR is not, though the IMR is a safer chemistry it could still vent where the IC AW 3100 has protection. I use a simple black O-Ring over my end cap and screw it together till the bottom cap makes contact with the o-ring. Other than size which the 3100 is a bit bigger and the may need the oring ( like the Provari uses with there non IMR ) most folks wouldn't want to use the oring but I find it no big deal myself. I like the AW-3100 now over the IMR Also using the Redilast 3100 series and it is of a high quality Batt as well,,,,,, On the flip side I also just got a shipment of some Callie's Kustoms IMR 2250's and these also seem like a very high quality Batt. Just my 2c worth. I am NOT putting the AW IMR down by any means as I am an avid AW IMR user, however these newer 3100 AW & Redilast are outperforming my IMR 18650's now and after using the new Callies Kustoms today I think these very well are going to out perform the AW IMR 18650 too.

Lastly I think anyone using a lessor grade than any of these Batts mentioned just to save a few bucks is nuts.

By the way, the MNKE 18650 and bigger Batts are also a very good performer's and should not be over looked !

SPECIFICATIONS:

Nominal Voltage : 3.6V
Capacity : 3100mAH ( rated at 0.2C discharge 4.2V - 2.5V @ 25℃ )
Operating Temp. : Charge 0 to 45℃ / Discharge -20 to 60 ℃
Recommended Charge Rate : max. 2170mA ( 0.7C ) - ambient temp. 25 ℃
Max. Discharge Rate : 6.2A ( ambient temp. 25 ℃ )
Dimensions :18.50 X 68.16mm ( +/- 0.3mm )

Nominal Voltage : 3.7V
Capacity : 1600mAH
Lowest Discharge Voltage : 2.50V
Standard Charge : CC/CV ( max. charging rate 4.5A )
Cycle Life : > 500 cycles
Max. continuous discharge rate : 15C
Operating Discharge Temperature : -10 - 60 Degree Celsius

In case you did not read all the posts in this thread the Callies Kustoms Panasonic 18650 IMR batt was found by sad society for 7.99 at Smart Vapes.... FYI....

 

[Chosen_1]

Lol. Its s very good description.

 

[AriM]

Every cell in this world is different. Everything is speculation until you test the specific cell you have in front of you. There are gems, and duds for every lot. To put a blanket around one brand, or one type of cell...simply means that you are buying in to the marketing hype. I don't mean this as a stab on ANYONE. It's just a fact.

It doesn't matter who puts their shrink wrap around a raw cell. Physics are physics, and brand loyalty does not change universal truths?

not to ruffle feathers.....but a 25c rating on a 3100mah battery would be equal to 77.5 amps. The only batteries on the market doing this right now are Exotic Li-Poly's. That number is off. The safe limits for a Li-Ion are around 2c. Or at least this is what my testing shows. Safe ratings for an IMR style cell (Lithium Manganese) is MAYBE around 5c (and that is pushing it IMO). Let's do the math.

3100maH 2c = 6.2 amps (I doubt the protection PCB will even allow this kind of draw)
2000maH 5c = 10 amps (no protection PCB to stop you from destroying this cell)

Neither cell will last long under that kind of abuse. An NO pv on the market needs that kind of current anyhow. So the non IMR is a clear winner, because it will outlast the IMR by roughly 1.5 amp hours.

Even the most abusive boost regulation circuitry (like the lava tube) is going to lock out the load well before you hit the limits of either battery. The limit in the lava tube is the inductor, and consequently the Voltage Regulation IC. That is also assuming that all "lava tubes" are the same. They aren't, you can order the exact same thing that Volcano sells as a "lava tube" from more than one offshore manufacturer. Trust me they are different from batch to batch. Just like "ego" devices. They all come off the same production lines, and they use whatever parts happen to be sitting in the bins in front of them.

I am sure this will piss some people off, but it's reality. I'm only chiming in on this because a friend asked. I have a bad feeling I have opened the flood gates for a truly epic sh!tstorm......flame away

 

[Chosen_1]

Lol.... Sometimes, well maybe a lot of times I say stuff to test other peoples knowledge... Your on target...they should lock this thread as a sticky... I asked in another thread if its ok to use am unprotected batt with my lt and some people said yes and no....but I know the boundaries...

 

[Sad Society]

Just to let others know. The dimensions of the AW 18650 Protected 3100 mAh Rechargeable Lithium Battery is 18.52 X 68.16mm's.

That is 3.16mm's too long for the Lavatube.

This battery will not fit. You wouldn't even get the LT cap threads close enough to screw.

The LT holds a true 65mm battery. I have a PCB 18650 battery that is about 68mm's (probably the same size as the AW 3100) and it doesn't fit. That also goes for the Redilast 3100 as well, it's too long.

 

[Chosen_1]

Awe man sorry to here that....do you have another pv for it?