AW RCR-123 li-ion 3.7V 750mAh- Vape Time?

[lexgar]

With my Chameleon I got the AW RCR-123 batteries. They fit great and work well for about 2 hours only before vapor production drops below an acceptable level. They are rated at 750 mah and hoped to get close to the time I had been getting with my Protege and unprotected 14500 Tenergy bats rated at 900 mah. Those were giving me 4-5 hours with a 510 LR atty from Drew @ 1.5.

Does not seem to matter if I use a stock 901 or one of the LR, I have not gotten more than 3 hrs life at most. I am a heavy vaper. I use a Tenergy TR-001 charger which takes about 2.5 hrs for a charge.

Has anyone had better luck on runtime with the red AW IMR-16340 that Iken stocks?

I have already ordered an extension tube and both unprotected 17670 and 1460 protected bats to try. Since I have 3-14500s I will probably make a spacer for my tube and see how they work.

What has your runtime been with the AW RCR-123?

I'm going to need another charger to keep all of these batteries going!

 

[doots]

That is about right. I get about 3 hours before noticeable drop. Aws about the same.

 

[WitchWay]

Hi lex,

My AW Li-ion last about the same as yours and the AW LiMNs about the same. I asked why mine would run out so much quicker than what other's where reporting and Drozd gave me a very detailed answer in another thread.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ikenvape/88149-aw-batteries-wow-2.html#post1335406

If you continue to read on that thread to post #23 Drozd spells out the math used.

I also got some UltraFire ICR 123A 880mAH 3.7V batteries and have much better luck with those. Be careful though theres is also a UltraFire 16340 880mAH 3.6V battery. I do not know what the difference is between the two exactly, but the ICR 123A ones are the ones I'm having the luck with and like the best out of all the batteries (6 different brands) I've tried on the Chameleon.

Hope this helps!

Happy Vaping!

 

[Switched]

With my Chameleon I got the AW RCR-123 batteries. They fit great and work well for about 2 hours only before vapor production drops below an acceptable level. They are rated at 750 mah and hoped to get close to the time I had been getting with my Protege and unprotected 14500 Tenergy bats rated at 900 mah. Those were giving me 4-5 hours with a 510 LR atty from Drew @ 1.5.

Does not seem to matter if I use a stock 901 or one of the LR, I have not gotten more than 3 hrs life at most. I am a heavy vaper. I use a Tenergy TR-001 charger which takes about 2.5 hrs for a charge.

Has anyone had better luck on runtime with the red AW IMR-16340 that Iken stocks?

I have already ordered an extension tube and both unprotected 17670 and 1460 protected bats to try. Since I have 3-14500s I will probably make a spacer for my tube and see how they work.

What has your runtime been with the AW RCR-123?

I'm going to need another charger to keep all of these batteries going!

Your results are to be expected and the norm. There is nothing wrong with the AWs as far as longevity goes, when used in their proper application.

Using low resistance 1.5 Ohm atomisers on any battery that was not designed for the large current draw will not only reduce run time but the overall battery life as well.

Low resistance atomisers when introduced were specifically intended for High Drain Batteries of 440 mAh or better. Folks have been using them on whatever they have and then are POed because of battery life.

IMHO LRs are a little overrated and should one need to use them, then they should acquire the proper batts to properly fire them. It is that simple.

 

[Iken]

You said it like a Champ Switch.

Yes, it's a price we have to pay for LR atoms in general. They demand so much amperage to use. If it helps, when I use them in series with a 5.2Ω atomizer for Xhv use, I receive about 9 hours of vaping time regardless of the battery type.

 

[Switched]

You said it like a Champ Switch.

Yes, it's a price we have to pay for LR atoms in general. They demand so much amperage to use. If it helps, when I use them in series with a 5.2Ω atomizer for Xhv use, I receive about 9 hours of vaping time regardless of the battery type.

Absolutely my friend.

Folks have jumped on all kinds of bandwagons (some unknowingly) and become frustrated in the process. However, coming to terms with all this mumbo jumbo will render a pure bliss vaping experience, alleviating if not totally illuminating the frustration.

I have been having a blast with vaping. I have been able to suit atty resistance to specific juices, and voltages to suit specific juices. My LRs have their place in this equation as well, but as mentioned, the hype surrounding their initial release, was well... hype.

When you fit an LR atty to the proper battery (one that can handle the current draw) the experience is awesome in comparison to just using a "battery" perse. In this case IMRs which can support up to 8A in comparison to 2A of normal Li Ions.

For folks that need laymans terms. Using a non high drain battery in high drain application is like adding cholesterol to your diet. Your arteries will clogg allot quicker. As the build up of cholesterol adds plaque in your blodd vessels, and this plaque is cumulative, it is harder for blood to travel or current to flow in our case, leading to a massive coronary or in our case pre-mature faillure.

Every time the battery is drawn above its designed specification, it adds a little more plaque to the carrying vessel, until it fails. A rough estimate by folks, is that using non HD batteries in HD applications reduces their life by almost ans in some case more than half.

With IMRs internal resistance is lower, allowing for greater current flow, thus a greatly reduced chance of cholesterol/plaque build up. Resulting in a normal battery life.

 

[lexgar]

Your results are to be expected and the norm. There is nothing wrong with the AWs as far as longevity goes, when used in their proper application.

Using low resistance 1.5 Ohm atomisers on any battery that was not designed for the large current draw will not only reduce run time but the overall battery life as well.

Low resistance atomisers when introduced were specifically intended for High Drain Batteries of 440 mAh or better. Folks have been using them on whatever they have and then are POed because of battery life.

IMHO LRs are a little overrated and should one need to use them, then they should acquire the proper batts to properly fire them. It is that simple.

Thanks all for the info.

Switched, WWay recommends the UltraFire ICR 123A 880mAH 3.7V, to help in runtime. Which batteries do you recommend in this application? I have not tried the AW high drain, but I will get a set and see how they work. As above, WWay sees little difference in them. I understand that your mileage may vary...

My experience with Tennergy 14500s in a Protege gave me much longer vape time and these are not high drain batteries that I know.

 

[WitchWay]

Lets not pick on all LR attys. Isaac's 2.0 LR attys do not seem to be draining much faster if at all. I'm using the 901 on the LPV3 with one of the AW 10440s and it last about the same as a regular 901 or carto. And I have the 801 on the Chameleon and it might even last longer than the 302 was. This is one of the things that surprised me with Isaac's LR attys was I expected less battery time and it hasn't happened.

 

[Switched]

Lets not pick on all LR attys. Isaac's 2.0 LR attys do not seem to be draining much faster if at all. I'm using the 901 on the LPV3 with one of the AW 10440s and it last about the same as a regular 901 or carto. And I have the 801 on the Chameleon and it might even last longer than the 302 was. This is one of the things that surprised me with Isaac's LR attys was I expected less battery time and it hasn't happened.

Please re-check my post WW. I did state 1.5 Ohms LRs.

And yes you can expect about the same run time with those (2 Ohms) when compared to regular Joye attys are 2.2 Ohms:

• 3.7V @ 1.5 Ohms = 2.5A draw;
• 3.7V @ 2 Ohms = 1.8A draw; and
• 3.7V @ 2.2 Ohms = 1.7A draw

 

[Switched]

WRT Isaacs SLB atomisers, I will be getting some when the stock comes in. I have used SLBs in the past and do know what they do. So there is no need for the constant sales pitch

 

[WitchWay]

Thanks for the numbers Switched! And I apologize, I did miss where you specified the 1.5 LR attys. I was actually comparing attys I was using, both the 901 and 302 attys are around 3.0 Ohms. I know the numbers say even the 2.0 LR attys should drain the batteries quicker, but they do not seem to be doing so at least not for me.

I've always use the AW high drain singlely in the Chameleon and have not had good luck with them as far as run time. Yesterday I started using them as a pair at higher voltage 4.7 volts with my 302 atty and WOW, I got 10+ hours run time. I guess they just needed a little harder use. I am now very pleased with the AW high drain batteries. For the Chameleon I'm sticking with the UltraFire ICR132a batteries with one of Isaac's LR 801 attys.

 

[WitchWay]

WRT Isaacs SLB atomisers, I will be getting some when the stock comes in. I have used SLBs in the past and do know what they do. So there is no need for the constant sales pitch

LOL I've been meaning to ask Isaac if I can get a IkenVape cheerleader outfit

 

[Iken]

LOL I've been meaning to ask Isaac if I can get a IkenVape cheerleader outfit

Lol Well you know...

I just want to change a few colors around and we'll have a new edition!

 

[Switched]

Thanks all for the info.

Switched, WWay recommends the UltraFire ICR 123A 880mAH 3.7V, to help in runtime. Which batteries do you recommend in this application? I have not tried the AW high drain, but I will get a set and see how they work. As above, WWay sees little difference in them. I understand that your mileage may vary...

My experience with Tennergy 14500s in a Protege gave me much longer vape time and these are not high drain batteries that I know.

Lex,

WWay is using a 2 Ohm atomiser. You and I are talking 1.5 Ohm attys. There is a big difference. I have posted the numbers. Yes your 14500 will perform better than the AW RCR123As, because your 14500 have a discharge rate of 2.5A continuous compared to 1.5A for the AWs.

WWay's batts have a continuous discharge rate of only 1.5A. IMRs or LiMN is what you are seeking.

Edit: Juts to get into the cheer leading mode, Isaac sells those

 

[WitchWay]

Lol Well you know...

I just want to change a few colors around and we'll have a new edition!

Well us witches like black

Juts to get into the cheer leading mode, Isaac sells those

Better get several of those cheerleading outfits Isaac!!

 

[Iken]

Well us witches like black



Better get several of those cheerleading outfits Isaac!!

Black core is definitely key with the outfits and that's a promise! I was thinking on changing the pattern color to nice deep red.


I googled Male cheerleaders for Switch, but umm... we'll... we're just going to have to leave that one at bay!

 

[Switched]

Black core is definitely key with the outfits and that's a promise! I was thinking on changing the pattern color to nice deep red.


I googled Male cheerleaders for Switch, but umm... we'll... we're just going to have to leave that one at bay!

... a thong would be nice, in red though to match my skin, black doesn't go to well with polar bear fur. Hey! if a Rhino can wear a thong...

 

[WitchWay]

ROFL so make the red in the pattern the same color as the thong for Switched. The only thing I'm afraid to even think about is where the IkenVape logo is going to go on the thong! Ok so this thread just took a very wrong turn and I apologize for that LOL

 

[Switched]

ROFL WWay uz bad now go wash your mind out with soap

 

[Switched]

ROFL so make the red in the pattern the same color as the thong for Switched. The only thing I'm afraid to even think about is where the IkenVape logo is going to go on the thong! Ok so this thread just took a very wrong turn and I apologize for that LOL

Yeah but it's kept within the confines of the family