Baby steps....
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I don't really understand.
You have a no-Nic mix that taste good at 10% total flavoring. (as an example)
You add nicotine to make it a Nic juice so you add 10% of the Nic volume in flavoring too. If the Nic is real clean tasting, it should taste the same.
You have a no-Nic mix that taste good at 10% total flavoring. (as an example)
You add nicotine to make it a Nic juice so you add 10% of the Nic volume in flavoring too. If the Nic is real clean tasting, it should taste the same.
I assumed adding the nic last, after the desired taste is achieved, would "water" down the taste.
Maybe I'm overthinking things.
Maybe I'm overthinking things.
Hoosier is suggesting adding more flavoring as well as nic. It works. It can also be a pain in the .... when you are mixing up a 5ml sample size and have multiple flavors so each is at a low % to begin with. And I find the missing nic does add a certain edge that influences my mixing. You can save 0.50 to 1.00 by not adding it though depending on how strong you like it. Personally, I'm a high roller, if the flavors are completely new I mix without until I get in the neighborhood. when I have a handle on the mix, I use the nic.
I put my orders in today! I'm getting really excited. Just for kicks and giggles here's what I ordered...
1000 ml pg
1000 ml vg
250 ml of 100mg/ml nic
15 10ml plastic bottles
5 30ml plastic bottles
10 pipettes
1cc syringe
3cc syringe
5cc syringe
will shoot over to Walgreens for the 10cc/brush syringe set
13 bottles of flavoring from Capellas
1 bottle Ethyl Malto
1 bottle Acetyl P? ( forget how to spell it )
2 510 dripping atomizers ( have to learn to drip so I can test these juices )
2 drips tips
With shipping the total came out to $176.89, a little over 3 cartons of cigs worth, which is 30 days worth of cigs for me. So now I sit and wait, I'm going to be jumping out of my skin with the anticipation by the time all of my stuff arrives. Can't wait!
Forget baby steps, I wound up diving in head first lol!
1000 ml pg
1000 ml vg
250 ml of 100mg/ml nic
15 10ml plastic bottles
5 30ml plastic bottles
10 pipettes
1cc syringe
3cc syringe
5cc syringe
will shoot over to Walgreens for the 10cc/brush syringe set
13 bottles of flavoring from Capellas
1 bottle Ethyl Malto
1 bottle Acetyl P? ( forget how to spell it )
2 510 dripping atomizers ( have to learn to drip so I can test these juices )
2 drips tips
With shipping the total came out to $176.89, a little over 3 cartons of cigs worth, which is 30 days worth of cigs for me. So now I sit and wait, I'm going to be jumping out of my skin with the anticipation by the time all of my stuff arrives. Can't wait!
Forget baby steps, I wound up diving in head first lol!
Well bummer. I was hoping I'd have all my supplies by the end of today but Capella's didn't ship until this morning and I ordered Monday. They sure are slow, or really behind. I got my RTS order yesterday, so at least I have that. Oh well. I have vapers tongue again anyway, I wouldn't be able to taste any juice that I could make if I had everything. 
Well bummer. I was hoping I'd have all my supplies by the end of today but Capella's didn't ship until this morning and I ordered Monday. They sure are slow, or really behind. I got my RTS order yesterday, so at least I have that. Oh well. I have vapers tongue again anyway, I wouldn't be able to taste any juice that I could make if I had everything.
Perfect! I've heard that some vape unflavored to get around that. This is your chance to give that method a try!
Ha, I didn't think of that. I'll give it a go tomorrow.
On the vapers tongue front I got to thinking. I've read that pg has antibacterial properties soooo I'm going to try yogurt for my vapers tongue. Perhaps pg kills off the beneficial bacteria in the mouth and salivary glands. Yogurt is supposed to be chock full of beneficial bacteria so maybe eating some will balance things out. If not yogurt maybe a probiotic supplement would work.
On the vapers tongue front I got to thinking. I've read that pg has antibacterial properties soooo I'm going to try yogurt for my vapers tongue. Perhaps pg kills off the beneficial bacteria in the mouth and salivary glands. Yogurt is supposed to be chock full of beneficial bacteria so maybe eating some will balance things out. If not yogurt maybe a probiotic supplement would work.
I'm now wondering about drops. Are they all created equal? For instance why buy hypodermic needles in different gauges when you can buy inexpensive pipettes? Does one really need the tiniest drop possible for some recipes? There has to be a reason for using one over the other and a reason for having different gauges. Time to research and read some more.
Nope.
I don't know why folks buy hypodermic needles. I use one, and only one, and only for one recipe because I don't really need them, but that one recipe uses a rather large amount of that one flavoring that I buy in 120ml bottles and use it so quickly that I don't transfer it to a smaller bottle. Needles don't have different gauges for different drop sizes, they aren't used for drops anyway. A smaller gauge/larger diameter is needed for thicker liquids. I use 1ml syringes that fit easily inside of a flavoring bottle, so they don't need needles, and are marked every 0.02ml. (That would equate to 50 drops per ml in drop size, but it works regardless of diameter and viscosity of the liquid, unlike drops.)
I don't really know.
Sure there is. I'm sure someone will know why. I just know how I do things.
Yeah, I don't think I'm going to order any needles for now then. From what you just said and from what I've read here I don't think I'll need them. Not just yet anyway. The syringes/pipettes I've got should work fine. I was wondering if maybe there's some top secret use for needles that I hadn't come across in my reading here.
Ok, I think I'll be doing my baby steps now. I've decided to make sample batches of each flavor I ordered to give me an idea of what I'll be working with. So tomorrow I'll make 3 ml test batches at 10% flavor of my 15 flavors and let them sit for a week, no lemon or sweetening. That should give me a little bit of solid ground to stand on knowledge wise. And then I'll proceed with mixing.
From what I've read during my research 10% should be a good starting point for Capella flavors. If anyone knows for sure if 10% is to high for any of these flavors please chime in and let me know.
Vanilla Custard
French Vanilla
Caramel
Double Chocolate
Sweet Strawberry
Lemon Meringue Pie
Chocolate Raspberry
Root Beer
Tangerine
Grape
Boston Crème Pie
Watermelon
I also have from Wizard Labs...
Cotton Candy
Boysenberry
Cream Cheese Icing
I'm not sure on a good starting percent with the Wizard Labs flavors so will probably go 5% on those.
I found someone to teach me how to drip so I can test my flavors out without having to use my clearomizers, yes! That will be a huge help.
(Hoosier if you're reading...I opened the Sweet Tangerine to smell it and...well.... It brought back vivid memories of going into labor, an orange Julius and some flying cookies
I'm afraid of it lol! Sorry it that's TMI)
From what I've read during my research 10% should be a good starting point for Capella flavors. If anyone knows for sure if 10% is to high for any of these flavors please chime in and let me know.
Vanilla Custard
French Vanilla
Caramel
Double Chocolate
Sweet Strawberry
Lemon Meringue Pie
Chocolate Raspberry
Root Beer
Tangerine
Grape
Boston Crème Pie
Watermelon
I also have from Wizard Labs...
Cotton Candy
Boysenberry
Cream Cheese Icing
I'm not sure on a good starting percent with the Wizard Labs flavors so will probably go 5% on those.
I found someone to teach me how to drip so I can test my flavors out without having to use my clearomizers, yes! That will be a huge help.
(Hoosier if you're reading...I opened the Sweet Tangerine to smell it and...well.... It brought back vivid memories of going into labor, an orange Julius and some flying cookies
I'm afraid of it lol! Sorry it that's TMI)- Status
