Back after 2 year relapse - need advise.

[pesok]

I started vaping in 2009 but in 2010 went back to analogs. Now i am thinking about coming back to vaping and need an advise on newest/best tech out there. I was always kinda frustrated with amount of vapor and its constancy. I am wondering if nowdays there are reliable options out there with the most vapor, consistent vapor(not huge vapor on first drag and second drag little to no vapor at all, third drag a bit more and so on - want plenty of vapor on each and every drag). And also a throat hit(not very strong but something close to what u would get from ultra lights analogs). Can someone point me in a right direction and recommend the best models for the situation i describerd? I smoke mostly at home so it doesn't have to be portable - just lots a vapor(more the better) and some throat hit. I also have plenty of juice(as well as flavorings, gallon of PG and VG) from old days - does it ever expire or can i use it again? Thanks in advance

Update:
wow sure a lot have changed since my vaping days, i feel like a grandpa listening to kids trying to explain where to stick a phone cord into the smartphone. I went through my "vaping closet" and counted 12 batteries, 48 attomizers, 3 different chargers + 2 PC only chargers, few hundred empty(and some prefilled - probably empty now) cartridges, a box of small bottles of flavorings(all from Lorann Gourmet), set of drippers/suringes/tubes, carry cases, about galon of PG and half of VG, and nicotine juices(some made by me, some premade with names like turkish blend, strawberry with highest content of nicotine of 100mg/ml. Should i just trash all this and start a new or can i reuse some of it? I remember spending upwards of $2k for all this(since it was still cheaper than smoking 3 packs at $9 each(Boston) a day). I have 6 cartons of my favorite analogs left(Pall Mall orange) and hope to kill the last .... and switch to my new vaping system(whatever u guys think it should be)

 

[bebowebb]

I'm too new to give you any help with direction, but I wanted to say welcome back!

 

[tinajfreeman]

What did you have before?

My new favorite and super-easy setup is an Ego 1000 mah battery (I use genuine Joyetech just because I have had great luck with them and long life, but there are knockoffs out there. They aren't that expensive for how long they last), an ego charger, and Vision Ego Clearomizers (great vapor, super easy to fill and clean).

 

[VaporPhreak]

There have been drastic changes in vaping over the last couple years. If you are looking for consistency, there a lot of options for you and I am sure other's will list their opinions of various options for you. I will simply suggest the setup I use as it is both consistent and cheap.

5v WOW mod from COV ($25)
4x 16340 Batts from COV (about $20) (also available from many other places such as Madvapes)
5 pack of Boge Cartos from LiteCig ($7)
Trustfire Tr001 Charger from LiteCig ($10)

With the above setup I get large & consistent hits till the carto goes dry. If the carto's dry up to quick for you, i would recommend a tank system like this! They are a bit pricier but you will get a lot more mileage between fills. But this is just my experience and what I found to be consistent, which is one of my biggest requirements.

 

[antism]

A lot of products have come out in the last two years. If you're trying to stay cheap, pick up a couple 900-1100 mah ego batteries (tried and true all inclusive battery/pv) and some boge LR 2 ohm cartomizers. Obviously you will need juice as well. If you're willing to spend more money there are plenty of variable voltage devices available that are more likely provide a better vaping experience overall. Provari I would place at the top, then buzz pro (or anything from notcigs). There are also bottom juice feeders in variable voltage as well as some Chinese made variable voltage that'll run about the same price as an ego kit. Definitely do your homework as there's a lot out there.

 

[ColKurtz]

You're going to get opinions from different people who love different options -- which is to say you'll still be wafting through a lot of battery/atty/carto options -- way more than last time so it could be even more confusing.

If you had to pick ONE thing, why would you say you didn't stick with it the first time? That might be the best way for others to post suggestions.

I had similar experience. I messed with e-cigs for about 6 months but never quit cigarettes more than a few days and eventually gave up. My biggest issue was finding a juice flavor I could tolerate. Part of my problem was that I bought mostly cheap Dekand juice at first, and still don't like any flavors. But flavors are the hardest area to give advice, because it's so subjective. I settled on Backwoods Brew Backo, because it has so little flavor... even people who swear by it tend to agree. Smoke doesn't really have any flavor if you get think about it (just a stink).

Moreover, the thing I like best about Backo is lack of *after-taste*. Even some juices I did enjoy (Halo Malibu) wore out their welcome because that taste was in my mouth even when I wasn't vaping. Not a problem with Backo. Halo Truepure is another good "flavorless" option if you like menthol.

On the device front, I tried literally pretty much every standard device out there. I settled on Ego-T with mega tank atomizer because it takes only 10 seconds to fill the tank with no mess, tanks give a consistent hit start to finish (attys and cartos gradually dry up), and paired with a 1100mah battery I can chain-vape all day. I got an ego booster to up the voltage for more warmth/vapor. 6 months next week. I'm not sure I'd be here if I was still futzing with cartos.

Good luck!

 

[pesok]

thank you for all the replies(and keep them coming), i am drawing a big blank as to what i was using before but here is what it sayd on the box that i found in my storage: DSE-901. Hope that makes sense as i do have a lot of batteries, atomizers, cartridges, and as i mentioned liquid but cant remember any actual names

 

[Samyaza]

Honestly if you are at home most of the day and looking to get back into vaping without spending a ton at first.

• 2 eGo 1000mah passthrough batteries (you can charge them from your PC while you vape and if you need to go out each battery will last 5+ hours. They sell for about $25 each. I'd get 2 "just in case")
• 4 Low Resistance Vision Stardusts (These hold about 2ml of juice and work well on the egos - about $5 each)
• 2 DCTanks (Tank system which I find works really well, you /may/ need to make the holes bigger in the cartos, but they give an amazing vape - about $10 each)
• 2 Boxes of refill cartridges (these are pre-punched with a hole, i use the 1.5 ones cartridges last about a week or more depending on the juice you are using - about $11 for 5)

That works out to around $110.

The reason I suggested both the tanks and the Stardusts is that some people like the tanks and others love the stardusts. Both work well imo and neither takes a lot of maintenance and are easy to refill and clean.

 

[tearose50]

There has been a lot of change -- as many have said.

I don't even own one, but I'd go for a Lava Tube (sold under several names) or with the about to be released similar version made by SmokeTek. It's a fairly inexpensive way to get a taste of the more technology advanced pv's made -- variable voltage or variable watts devices have become very very popular, for good reason.

With this device, you can change the heat level easily and can limit your buying without having to learn the nuances of using an ohms calculator. You can buy "standard resistance" (2.2-2.5 ohms and usually 2.8-3.0 for cartos) and dial up or down the heat, as you learn what you prefer.

510/306 threading has "won" for now -- most devices have 510 threading. 510 atty is nice too---more umph than the 901. I think the story has been -- 901 for flavor, 306 for warmth, 510 for the perfect mix. Of course, that's a year old datum! there are tons of vendors and various tweeks to the basic products. We all have favorites. I would say that most either learn "dripping" with their atty's or use them on another type of device, called a bottom feeder. I drip all the time at my desk.

One huge change is that cartridges are rare these days. The cartomizer -- which is a cartridge/atty combo -- have become quite popular and their are several variations. Boge & smoketek brands have remained well liked. As mentioned, carto tanks are currently popular-----and something inexpensive like the stardust (this is out there in a few names as well, I do believe) might be a good way to try "carto tanks".

Pick a mod -- get a good charger and appropriate batteries for that mod, and a small assortment of atty/carto's and go for it.

Welcome back to the world of vaping. Good decision!

 

[tearose50]

Oh -- your juice.

Maybe it's ok. Depends on how it was stored, most likely. I believe shelf life is 2 years.

I happen to be a Back Woods Brew fan --- get an assortment of small bottles and flavors. Juice has improved considerably in the past 2 years and there are several great companies in the US making juice.

And --- your batteries might not hold a charge anymore. If you pick up an adapter you can still use those 901 atty's, most likely.

2nd step for "newbies" these days is an Ego or Riva. Not a bad choice either. Many carry an ego for "back up". It would be a cheaper "re-start" and less gadgets to buy.

 

[jamentertainment]

if you want to buy once for a strong long lasting PV...provari v2, couple batts and a charger...boge cartos 3ohms and juice...good luck
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[MickeyRat]

I started after you left and I can say things have changed a lot since I started. So, I'm going to give you the same advice I'd give in the noob forum. The lavatube has it's fans but, it's 2.5 amp limit means it's really not a good device on todays dual coils and they have a lot of fans too. The Provaris have a loyal and vocal following but, the Buzz pro performs better and costs less.

I'm not even sure the egos were out when you left but, if you never used anything but cigarette looking kits, the ego/kgo/riva class is where to start. My favorite in this class is the epower because it uses generic batteries.

If you really want a cigarette looking kit and there's no way I can talk you out of it, look at the Volt from smokeless image or the Bloog Max Fusion.

As others have said, the 510 threading is where the action is. That's why I use 901s. There are a bewildering number of things with 510 threading out there right now. A lot of them have gone and continue to go through endless revisions. People love them till they crack or leak or they refuse to wick or ... The two new things that seem to be here to stay are the dual coil cartomizers and the carto tanks. That combination is probably the most reliable and carefree way to vape there is right now. I don't like filler so, I don't use them but, I'm definitely in the minority there. You might want to shy away from the mega/ce/fluxo/clearo stuff till you get your feet back on the ground.

For now get yourself something in the ego class or even a low priced 3.7V mod and start trying things. I think you'll find things have come a long way.

 

[pesok]

wow sure a lot have changed since my vaping days, i feel like a grandpa listening to kids trying to explain where to stick a phone cord into the smartphone. I went through my "vaping closet" and counted 12 batteries, 48 attomizers, 3 different chargers + 2 PC only chargers, few hundred empty(and some prefilled - probably empty now) cartridges, a box of small bottles of flavorings(all from Lorann Gourmet), set of drippers/suringes/tubes, carry cases, about galon of PG and half of VG, and nicotine juices(some made by me, some premade with names like turkish blend, strawberry with highest content of nicotine of 100mg/ml. Should i just trash all this and start a new or can i reuse some of it? I remember spending upwards of $2k for all this(since it was still cheaper than smoking 3 packs at $9 each(Boston) a day). I have 6 cartons of my favorite analogs left(Pall Mall orange) and hope to kill the last .... and switch to my new vaping system(whatever u guys think it should be)

 

[tearose50]

There's a whole section here at ECF on DIY (do it yourself) juice making. I'd ask there.

100 mg nic base is not as prevalent, too. More diluted is being sold now for general safety.

 

[allanworks]

heres my story i used to use a joye 510 .i loved it . bought a joyetech ego c with a larger resivwaur cart love this thing makes others seem like garbage. i fill it once a recharge so about once every two days and produces allot of smoke.if you want quality go joyetech.my 510s has never had an atty changed in it and ive had it over a year one does have a funny taste now but i use it for srong vapes .there is a wicking issue with the 510s but dripping solves that and the newer ego c is better so i use my 510s as back up.as for your e liquid if there stored in a cool dry place they will last for years so if there within say 3 years id vape them the nic is the only thing that will degrade over time from what i understand so thell be weaker but still good i would shake them good tho they may have seporated over time.

 

[MickeyRat]

There's a whole section here at ECF on DIY (do it yourself) juice making. I'd ask there.

100 mg nic base is not as prevalent, too. More diluted is being sold now for general safety.

Actually, most of the vendors that specialize in selling nic, sell, 100mg along with other strengths. That's what I buy. I put on gloves and dilute it to 50mg for mixing though. I have 4 pint bottles for keeping the 50mg. When I start working on the last one, it's time to mix some more.

Pesok, if you kept it in a cool dark place, your nic supplies might still be okay but, they are nearing end of life, if they haven't lost their strength already. The PG and VG is probably still usable. I haven't used one yet but, nicotine test kits are available on ebay. I've seen posts that say they work well. As far as taste goes, some flavors keep better than others.

As far as your gear goes. If they are the cigarette looking batteries, I'm going to say that by today's standards, they probably weren't any good to begin with. By now they are likely a lot worse. I'd look at something newer in the ego class, if I were you. A couple batteries should be all you need. Eventually you will want a backup system though. That can either be more of the same or you can step off into more exotic mods and keep the ego stuff as a backup like I have. Depending on threading, your atomizers should still be good. Whatever threading they have, you can probably get an adapter to use them. Not many people still use the cartridge/atomizer combination anymore. That's really a fail due to low capacity and leaking. I started right about the time that everyone migrated to cartomizers (an atomizer cartridge combination with more capacity and less leaking). Atomizers are mainly used for dripping and on bottom feeders etc. now.

I should have mentioned the ego tanks. I'm not going to say it's a bad system but, it does mute the flavor. Some people love them and some don't. There's not an inbetween. I didn't love mine. However, I had just started when the first ego-t came out. They had some problems at first. It was my first real PV. So, I can't say my experience can be considered an accurate assessment now. It is probably a better experience than anything you've used before though.

Your analogy is a good one. In a way you are very much like a pinball king from the '60s talking to a modern day gamer. Because I actually know what a cartridge/atomizer combination is, I'm pretty long in the tooth too and I've only been at it a little over a year.

 

[mooreted]

I would think about what you need from an ecig:

Do you need long battery life?
Do you need a strong throat hit?
Do you need a lot of vapor?
Do you need a tank system so you don't have to fill all day?

For me, my eGo works prefectly with Boge 2.0 cartos. For others the eGo is too weak so they go with a Kgo or Riva or they bump up to a 5v or VV mod. Some need to fill up in the morning and not fuss with it all day so they go with a carto tank or a Reo Grande or Reo Mini or Vmod. For VV the Provari is still king.

If you get into mods make sure to check what safety features they include. There should be a way to shut it off, it should have a method to automatically shut off in case of a short and it should have vent holes in case the battery decides to vent.

 

[tonymopar]

If I was you, I would test out the stuff that is still good, throw it on the classifieds, and pick up a provari, j-tank, boge 3.0 cartomizers, a couple of batteries, and some good juice with the money you make!!

I started vaping in 2009 but in 2010 went back to analogs. Now i am thinking about coming back to vaping and need an advise on newest/best tech out there. I was always kinda frustrated with amount of vapor and its constancy. I am wondering if nowdays there are reliable options out there with the most vapor, consistent vapor(not huge vapor on first drag and second drag little to no vapor at all, third drag a bit more and so on - want plenty of vapor on each and every drag). And also a throat hit(not very strong but something close to what u would get from ultra lights analogs). Can someone point me in a right direction and recommend the best models for the situation i describerd? I smoke mostly at home so it doesn't have to be portable - just lots a vapor(more the better) and some throat hit. I also have plenty of juice(as well as flavorings, gallon of PG and VG) from old days - does it ever expire or can i use it again? Thanks in advance

Update:
wow sure a lot have changed since my vaping days, i feel like a grandpa listening to kids trying to explain where to stick a phone cord into the smartphone. I went through my "vaping closet" and counted 12 batteries, 48 attomizers, 3 different chargers + 2 PC only chargers, few hundred empty(and some prefilled - probably empty now) cartridges, a box of small bottles of flavorings(all from Lorann Gourmet), set of drippers/suringes/tubes, carry cases, about galon of PG and half of VG, and nicotine juices(some made by me, some premade with names like turkish blend, strawberry with highest content of nicotine of 100mg/ml. Should i just trash all this and start a new or can i reuse some of it? I remember spending upwards of $2k for all this(since it was still cheaper than smoking 3 packs at $9 each(Boston) a day). I have 6 cartons of my favorite analogs left(Pall Mall orange) and hope to kill the last .... and switch to my new vaping system(whatever u guys think it should be)

 

[MickeyRat]

I thought of a couple threads you might be interested in. I mentioned the carto tanks. They are very popular. Here's a thread that describes how to make one. I actually made one and it worked well but, I don't like filler. You can make one or not but, that thread will give you an idea how they work.

You mentioned you had some Lorann flavorings. Some of those are okay to use and some aren't. Here's a thread that tells you which are which.

 

[txtumbleweed]

Good luck. Much has changed in the last two years and are continuing to change weekly. My favorite is the 1300 auto Echo with a 3.4 ml carto. The battery lasts about 17 hrs and a full carto will last about 12 hours of steady vaping. It has 808d connector, which is similar to a 901. ECHO KITS : CropDuster901 eCigs, eCigs, Vaporizers and Supplies
If you are wanting to experiment with different cartos you would be better off with a Kgo with 510/ego connection. E-cig Kits
I would seriously consider the VV Lava MiniLava Variable Voltage Device - DiscountVapers.com
You can get any of these for 45.00 except the Lava isn't a kit.