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It only took 24 hours for someone to post a pic of what the general end user consensus which defines a 'hybrid' atty or mod.
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The pic on the left of my posts shows a hybrid;
There is no 510 threads.
There is no topcap.
The rda threads directly onto the tube.
The rda has a very big, clear centerpin, with a big black insulator.
The threading on this one is m20x0.5
The pic on the left of my posts shows a hybrid;
There is no 510 threads.
There is no topcap.
The rda threads directly onto the tube.
The rda has a very big, clear centerpin, with a big black insulator.
The threading on this one is m20x0.5
But then folks want to take shortcuts & make things more "versatile", and that's when the trouble starts.
Trying to fool electrical connections is a lot like trying to fool mother nature .... it bites!
Well now that were on a roll here, where in the blazes did hybrid come from? What is hybrid, the button? How? The chunk of tech schtickered to the bottom of the atty?The pic on the left of my posts shows a hybrid;
There is no 510 threads.
There is no topcap.
The rda threads directly onto the tube.
The rda has a very big, clear centerpin, with a big black insulator.
The threading on this one is m20x0.5
Wait I got it, it' one of those 'things' such like 'tootle-puffer', yea, I missed that one as well, shucks. Tootle-puffing?
Wife: What on this Earth are you doing in there OMG
Me: Yes dear, I'm tootle puffing again
Wife: You disgust me
Wife: What on this Earth are you doing in there OMG
Me: Yes dear, I'm tootle puffing again
Wife: You disgust me
Actually the original hybrids were all one piece. So the atomizer could not be removed from the mod.
You took it apart from the top to replace the coil, or from the bottom to replace the battery.
I think hybrid refers to the combination of an atty and mod into a single unit.removing the center pin on the mod eliminates on contact point so you could claim slightly lower resistance between the battery and the coil but I don't think it would make a noticeable difference. just another sales gimmick
Wait I got it, it' one of those 'things' such like 'tootle-puffer', yea, I missed that one as well, shucks. Tootle-puffing?
Wife: What on this Earth are you doing in there OMG
Me: Yes dear, I'm tootle puffing again
Wife: You disgust me
Are you talking about my kick module?
That's not part of the 'hybrid'.
Anyway here is a pic of a valkrye hybrid setup
$27.25 Valkyrie Style Hybrid Mod - 1*18650 / sandblasted version at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
some more examples here:
FastTech - Gadgets and Electronics
including chibrid, y1000, dreadnaught, armada, elite, lbaloi
My iStick 100w's 510 pin connection died the other day. So of course, I bought a new RTA
Which makes no sense, but now I'm also waiting to hear back about a customized DNA200 mod by a company that seems to have an amazing warantee.Yes, to each his own, variety is the spice of life
I would argue however that even though it won't count puffs or electronically limit my temp that mechs provide a broad range of control by the type of build installed. Let's just say, a good driver with a manual transmission muscle car will have more control than a mediocre driver with an automatic and traction control. The safety factor I'll give you, if it's in the wrong hands.
I agree on the battery tubes though, not such a big fan myself...
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I've tried temp control on my cheap RX200 recently, and it's basically the same as me pulsing my mech. I'm a noob at that though, and I hear DNA is smoother.
Most people confuse an old fashioned hybrid with the current mods with a removable or fixed adapter plate like the SMPL mod which is in reality a direct battery mod, not a hybrid. A hybrid is a mod that has a custom made atty that is part or built into the mod.
The Chris Creations Novice mech mod is a perfect example of a hybrid
@EdT586 "A hybrid is a mod that has a custom made atty that is part or built into the mod." Bingo
Which begs the question, why on Earth would a manufacturer want to associate the above definition with their product, when the mere definition has nothing to do with the design they are hawking?
Which begs the question, why on Earth would a manufacturer want to associate the above definition with their product, when the mere definition has nothing to do with the design they are hawking?
By virtue of removing the 510 connection true hybrids are (typically) very efficient, low voltage drop, hard hitting mods. That would lead me to ask what manufacturer would not want to associate their product with that?
Although a faux hybrid still has an additional circuit interface in the negative path, it has still eliminated a large source of voltage drop.
Just my
Simple, it sells their product. But of course we always feel the need to nit-pick definitions.
They're a mechanical without a center pin ... end of story. So for the sake of a 0.0003 ohm gain in performance people choose to add unnecessary risk.
A hybrid does not mean a custom made atty.
Different mods use different tube threading, and the typical hybrid atty will fit one threading (of course) and not another. Meanwhile, nobody sells thread adapters, which would really be simple to make.
Common tube threadings are:
m20x1
m21x1
m20x0.5
m20x1 means 20mm diameter, and 1 thread per millimetre.
Interesting, so far the way I see a hybrid, this 'device' placed between the battery and the atomizer is really nothing more than a marketing scam to make people feel as if they are being protected.
If the hybrid section fails, this could equate to a dead short. So this is adding no more than a level of complexity.
We need to look at where the first instance of the terminology 'hybrid' came from to get a more clear idea.
If the hybrid section fails, this could equate to a dead short. So this is adding no more than a level of complexity.
We need to look at where the first instance of the terminology 'hybrid' came from to get a more clear idea.
No, a faux hybrid top cap allows a standard 510 atty make connection directly to the battery. They can not fail, they are nothing more than a metal disk with 510 threading. They are marketed as providing, and do provide, a direct atty to battery connection for decreased voltage drop, they are not marketed in any way as a safety feature.
The issue lies where unknowing people use it with an atty that is not suitable, i.e. an atty with a 510 pin which does not protrude enough/at all from he surrounding threads allowing the battery positive terminal to make contact with both the positive and negative paths on the 510. This is what causes a dead short.
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I suggest new terms/words for connections. Hybrid needs to go, too many people already see it as different things.
DTB mods - mod side, no 510 pin within the battery housing.
DTB mods - mod side, no 510 pin within the battery housing.
I'm afraid that horse has already left the barn.
Anavidfan started a great thread that went into this Hybrid Mech Mods Info and Safe Usage
Also/too, the terminology is not the issue, it's the lack of knowledge about how to use it. You can call it whatever you want and it will still be dangerous in the wrong hands. A rose by any other name...
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