Back to Square 1 - need PV recommendations for friends

[John D in CT]

Getting frustrated here; I have a growing number of friends who want me to hook them up with a good setup so they can get off the stinkies. My recommendations are evolving as I learn more; I'm still using a Joye eGo-T - one battery with the tank system on it, and the other with cartomizers/drip tip. Friend 1 got this same setup, Friends 2 & 3 got Joye eGo-C's. All are doing very well, but we all know there's better stuff out there.


We don't have to hit a home run here, and I'm going to be lending out setups for people just to try and then buy only if they like them, so I'm not going to buy a bunch of Black Beauty's for everyone. Here's what I'm after:


1) Replaceable battery, like an E-power, and not an 18650, because I think they'd be too startlingly large for a beginner, and unnecessary. My 1000 mah eGo batts have enough oomph, so I think we're looking at about a 14650 battery, like in this starter kit from Hoosier:

E-Power 14650

Problem: they're out of stock, and it looks like that's the case everywhere.

2) Atomizing/juice-holder apparatus. I'm thinking of getting a bunch of eGo-C atomizer sections (cone, base, heads) and some Joye (Type A) tanks just so people can see what that type of tank is all about, and some Boge 2.0 cartos (and drip tips, of course), so they can see what trading less convenience for more flavor is all about. And maybe some clearomizers as well, since they seem to give both taste and convenience, as long as the noob using them isn't hung up on using something that looks like a stinkie. (Still can't quite figure out that fascination).

I'm also going to start people out with about 5 different flavors of 80/20 18mg based on what they say they like and also what I think they might like. I think I'm going to go heavy on Backwoods Brew flavors, and some from Tasty Vapor.

So that's it; what can I order that would fit the PV (power source) bill that's actually available, and what do y'all think about my choices for gear to go on them? Clearomizer suggestions for 3.7 volts that are a very good bang for the buck would be especially appreciated, and is 2.0 the best resistance for a 3.7v, 1100 mah PV?

Thanks!

(Gotta be replaceable battery, so kGo/Riva is out. They're only going to get one power source and a charger that will do two batteries at a time).

 

[r77r7r]

Gosh, I'd not like to try to predict what other folks would prefer in a PV and Juices. How about letting them test yours and then direct them here?

 

[Dana A]

You are a good friend and a good advocate for vaping. Convert as many as you can

 

[John D in CT]

Gosh, I'd not like to try to predict what other folks would prefer in a PV and Juices. How about letting them test yours and then direct them here?

It has everything to do with logistics and psychology, coupled with the fact that none of these people have the foggiest idea about this subject, and wouldn't have the first clue what PV to buy. And if they want one that looks like a cigarette, I'll just let them stick to cigarettes, since they look exactly like one.

Logistics: I don't have time or opportunity to let everyone sample the flavors I use now, even though there are only three, from Tasty Vapor - Atomic Cinnacide, Geoff's Blend, and Kretek (clove).

Psychology: Friend 4's wife wants nothing to do with vaping, and of course, has no logical reasons. Her husband says she smokes Marlboros, and likes Coca-Cola, coffee coolatas from Dunkin' Donuts, peaches, grapes and raspberries, so that's what she's getting. The idea is that she might eventually get curious enough about that strange thing sitting on the counter to try it.

Friend 5 loves strawberries, so she's getting that, along with Honey Flue Nut, another tobacco flavor, and maybe Geoff's Blend and Atomic Cinnacide.

I'll do my best to give them whatever flavors they think they'll want, but as we're all finding out, what you think you want when you're just starting out isn't necessarily what you'll like. In any case, I think my recommendations are likely to be better than whatever crap flavor comes with the garbage you'd get with a crap ciggie look-alike down at the Quickie Mart.

 

[unsure]

I don't care if I get flamed for this suggestion but I know many newbies jump to a cheap mod and bypass starter kits and save money in the long run with the normal progression of upgrades......soooo

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...uality-3-7v-box-mods-19-5v-box-mods-28-a.html

 

[John D in CT]

I don't care if I get flamed for this suggestion but I know many newbies jump to a cheap mod and bypass starter kits and save money in the long run with the normal progression of upgrades......soooo

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...uality-3-7v-box-mods-19-5v-box-mods-28-a.html

Not to worry, this is a no-flame zone. I don't think I want to start anyone on a box mod though, since you can get a satisfactory vape off of something about the size and shape of an eGo. And again, this isn't going to be an end-all and be-all for anyone - it just needs to get the job done, while not looking too alien.

You raise a good point about higher voltages though, so here's another Q: Are there any 5-6 volt constant-voltage PV's out there that look like an eGo but have (single) replaceable batteries, or are all of the Li batteries around 3.7 volts? (I just don't want to get involved with PV's that take two stacked batteries. Maybe someone could change my mind about that though).

Also, would you get a better vape out of a 5-6 volt device with a 3.0 carto than a 3.7V with a lower res carto? (Naturally, at higher volts I'd have to ditch the eGo-C atomizers and tanks).

 

[donnah]

Direct them here

 

[John D in CT]

Direct them here

Thanks for that, but that (very informative) site recommends the kGo, which is out. These "loaners" have to have replaceable batteries. I can't deal with the expense of replacing sealed power units or the hassle of dealing with ones that are starting to have trouble holding a charge. And again, these people are going to be getting a single power source that can't be out of commission while it's charging.

 

[Sweeney Todd]

OK, I'm going to go off the objective of providing the strongest flavor and vapor in an Ego-sized device.

I'd go with a Kgo (KGO kit 1100mAh by SLB) starter kit. That's 1100mah, plenty of battery power, and 3.7 volts instead of the 3.3 of a stock Ego. Then I'd try various cartomizers and find one you feel comfortable recommending. I usually go with Boge 2.0ohm cartomizers (2.0 ohm low resistance 510 cartomizer.(single coil) 5 pack).

The combination of slightly more voltage and a solid low resistance carto gives a flavorful, warm vape and is a really good initial experience for someone. It also doesn't hurt that it's darn cheap ($43 for the Kgo, $7 for a box of cartos). I hope this helps.

 

[John D in CT]

OK, I'm going to go off the objective of providing the strongest flavor and vapor in an Ego-sized device.

I'd go with a Kgo (KGO kit 1100mAh by SLB) starter kit. That's 1100mah, plenty of battery power, and 3.7 volts instead of the 3.3 of a stock Ego. Then I'd try various cartomizers and find one you feel comfortable recommending. I usually go with Boge 2.0ohm cartomizers (2.0 ohm low resistance 510 cartomizer.(single coil) 5 pack).

The combination of slightly more voltage and a solid low resistance carto gives a flavorful, warm vape and is a really good initial experience for someone. It also doesn't hurt that it's darn cheap ($43 for the Kgo, $7 for a box of cartos). I hope this helps.

Thanks, that does help. I still do want to go with replaceable batteries, so this is my shopping list as it stands now:

smoktek.com:

14650 protected battery 6.99
14650 body 12.59
e-power 14650 cones 4.99
e-power 14650 switch 9.50
eGo-C cartomizer section - 3 7.50 x 3
boge 2.0 ohm cartos - 5 8.95
Smoktank 3.5 ml single coil carto 10.95
10ml bottle w/ needle 2.49
B-D syringes 5 & 10 ml
needles (5)

esmokeronline

eGo-C bases 12.89
cylinder cover 3.50
eGo-C Type A tanks 6.99 - 5
overflow caps - Type A 1.75 - 5
rubber mouth pieces? 1.75 - 5
eGo-C heads (attys) 25.60 - 5
8 x 6ml drip bottles 3.95
drip tips

juice - various vendors (Backwoods Brew, Tasty Vapor, Pink Vision, Alien Visions)

(The reason that the E-power power sources [which most others would call a "PV", for "Personal Vaporizer"] are listed in individual pieces is that kits seem to be out of stock right now. I call it a power source because by itself it's incapable of vaporizing anything, but that's another thread).

I still might get at least one kGo just to see what they're like. Thanks again.

 

[Iffy]

Just packed up a Riva kit with three eMDCCs to send off to an ol' classmate's sister in N.C. This is my fourteenth kit out to my c'verts; simple, effective and a winning system!

 

[John D in CT]

Just packed up a Riva kit with three eMDCCs to send off to an ol' classmate's sister in N.C. This is my fourteenth kit out to my c'verts; simple, effective and a winning system!

Thanks Iffy, I just added the eMDCC's (Ego Mega Dual Coil Cartomizers for those out there as clueless as I am) to my list of things to buy, try, and lend out. Amazing that everything on my list adds up to just 20 packs of analogs, and won't just end up in an ashtray.

In this context, "Riva" pretty much equals "kGo", correct?

Also - I'm beginning to wonder if the e-Power is about the only 14650 replaceable-battery power source out there? Seems like someone would have mentioned one by now ...

Thanks all for the replies so far.

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Forgot to add: Fourteen? That is excellent. Just think of all the good you've done for those people. This vaping thing is absolutely amazing. Nice job.

 

[r77r7r]

A year ago, the Riva kit was a very popular beginners kit. Everything is included but juice.

Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Riva 510

 

[Prism]

For the guy who's wife has no interest, you might want to get a simple one that looks like a cig. The volt is a real popular one that even experienced vapers use and there is nothing to mess with. They hit great and you can get prefilled cartos and matching juice to top off with. the 78 batts last quite awhile

Smokeless Image | Only The Best Electronic Cigarette | Volt - Basic Starter Kit - Starter Kits
they have a subforum here on ecf too
Smokeless Image

 

[John D in CT]

For the guy who's wife has no interest, you might want to get a simple one that looks like a cig. The volt is a real popular one that even experienced vapers use and there is nothing to mess with. They hit great and you can get prefilled cartos and matching juice to top off with. the 78 batts last quite awhile

Smokeless Image | Only The Best Electronic Cigarette | Volt - Basic Starter Kit - Starter Kits
they have a subforum here on ecf too
Smokeless Image

Thanks for that, Prism. I've heard a lot about the Volt, and I'll probably get that too as part of my own learning experience, and as you implied, as a possible way of getting the extra-stubborn/irrational analog smoker, who insists that a PV resemble a stinkie, to get into vaping.

 

[unsure]

There are several Vv (tube mods) available so you can find you sweet spot in voltage.

 

[Iffy]

In this context, "Riva" pretty much equals "kGo", correct?

Yepper. Both are 3.7V eGos. The diff twix the ol' 3.4V eGos and the newer 3.7V is a winner!

Keep us posted as to you helping venture!

 

[tica02]

Sent you a pm about the kGo. Let me know what you think.