Bad batch of Smoktech LR 1.7 ohm and XL LR 1.7 ohm going around...

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I would like to try boges for comparison sake. Are there any boge models with the flange at the bottom?

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I'm gonna say no. However, you really dont need that flange at all. Its only there so when you tighten via the tank, the carto does not spin inside the tank.

If you just slide your tank down to the bottom of any ole carto it will work just the same. The o-ring provides the seal. If you tighten your carto onto the device that hard your going too tight anyway. On a side note, I have had to grasp the tank/carto tip at the same time upon removal to keep mine from slipping but no big deal.
 

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I think the filler is just more susceptible to burning now. That and it puts off a really strange vapor. I hope Smoktech somehow turns this around. Maybe it was just a smaller batch that went to certain vendors? They had one of the best products out there, would be a shame if they changed all their cartos like this.

Update: will have Boges today, woo! All my favorite juices have turned to crap the past few weeks, hopefully they'll be back to normal now.

They ship fast :) You used CCV?
That was sad for me too...my beloved juices tasking like poop
 

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Got the boge xxls from 310vapers. So far noticing that they don't absorb juice as well or as fast as the resurrectors. I'm vaping mainly Boba's thinned with some distilled water and it still takes a good 5-10 minutes for the first fill. Hopefully it will wick as well as the Smoktechs. Just trying to break a few in now.

edit: So do we know if this is just a bad batch? Or is it a change made to the product? Does anyone know if CCVs are bad? Got mine elsewhere.
 
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Got the boge xxls from 310vapers. So far noticing that they don't absorb juice as well or as fast as the resurrectors. I'm vaping mainly Boba's thinned with some distilled water and it still takes a good 5-10 minutes for the first fill. Hopefully it will wick as well as the Smoktechs. Just trying to break a few in now.

edit: So do we know if this is just a bad batch? Or is it a change made to the product? Does anyone know if CCVs are bad? Got mine elsewhere.

I advise anyone using the Boge to fill them with your preferred method (I use syringe) and let them set for at least 10min, longer is better. So they soak up well. I've jumped the gun on a couple Boges and they are not forgiving. If they burn, you may as well toss them.
 

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I also got an email from the vendor I bought my 1.7's from asking if I wanted to submit a review. Did so giving a one star rating, and gee, the review never made it on the site. I am not going to mention any vendor names, just will say I don't believe I've seen the vendor I bought them from mentioned in this thread so far.
I picked up some of the Boge LR XL's or XXL's (they are just a tad short of the SmokTek's) and they are working fine. They do take a little longer to absorb the juice, but they WORK RIGHT!!! It made me sick to pitch 15 of the unused SmokTek cartos, but they were useless and just taking up space. That is not counting the 10 that I wasted trying them and hoping I just got one funky one....lol. (guess I'm an optimist) So, total of 25 cartos down the tube.
I'm staying away from the 1.7's until I know for sure they have been "fixed". Heck, may be no need to even go back to them since I'm so happy with the Boges now.
 

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I also got an email from the vendor I bought my 1.7's from asking if I wanted to submit a review. Did so giving a one star rating, and gee, the review never made it on the site. I am not going to mention any vendor names, just will say I don't believe I've seen the vendor I bought them from mentioned in this thread so far.
I picked up some of the Boge LR XL's or XXL's (they are just a tad short of the SmokTek's) and they are working fine. They do take a little longer to absorb the juice, but they WORK RIGHT!!! It made me sick to pitch 15 of the unused SmokTek cartos, but they were useless and just taking up space. That is not counting the 10 that I wasted trying them and hoping I just got one funky one....lol. (guess I'm an optimist) So, total of 25 cartos down the tube.
I'm staying away from the 1.7's until I know for sure they have been "fixed". Heck, may be no need to even go back to them since I'm so happy with the Boges now.

Went through the same thing, going through 10 of them hoping it was just a fluke. Now I have a few boxes of unused ones that I'm probably going to toss.

Does anyone know if there are any vendors still shipping "old" stock? I'm only aware of two vendors that sell them. It's kind of counter intuitive if we're not allowed to mention the bad ones anyway.

edit: anyone using thick juices in the Boges?
 

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That shocks me you guys are having so many issues with the Smoktechs. I have had some duds for sure (hence my participation in this thread) but no where near the number you guys are indicating. That is nuts! If THAT MANY are bad right from the get go, there is something very very wrong and I hope the vendors and Smoktech are taking note. Based on a previous (now deleted) post, I think we know Smoktech is watching the forums.
 

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Just wanted to let everyone know that I am now a Boge carto user after being burned by Smoktech's resurrectors. The resurrectors were my first cartos and I loved them, then suddenly, I felt like I was trying to suck a watermelon through a straw! Because of this change in the resurrectors, I have little faith in any of Smoketech's products. Who's to say they won't continue 'changing' something in any of their products. I wasted my money with them once, but no longer. Am loving my Boges XL/XXLs!
 

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Well folks there is definately a change with Smoktech cartos apparently they are trying to make their filler more like Boge. Epic fail! They shouldn't fix what isn't broken! I suggest each and every one of you speak to your vendors about your discontent with the new polyfill. I amicably resolved my problems with the vendor I bought from. I hate to see any newbies or people unaware buy these and be totally turned off cartomizers. Smoktech really needs to shape up---I don't trust them anymore either.
 

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I honestly don't know how you would be able to tell new from old stock. The boxes don't have any kind of lot number or date of manufacture on them that I can remember to be able to identify a specific lot of cartos. Maybe a vendor could tell by purchase date, but I'd be very leery. The last ones I got came loose in a large ZipLoc bag. That's really bulk.....lol. Looks like SmokTek has shot themselves in the foot and needs to stop the bleeding.
The last two I tried before giving up sat overnight after filling them. They were used in a tank, so I don't see how after sitting for over 12 hours, immersed in juice, they could not have been saturated. That is why I'm convinced there is something wrong or changed with the polyfill. They burned up in less than two days. I know the cartos are considered to be disposable, but two days just doesn't cut it for me. I got tired of having to drain tanks and replace the carto so frequently.
What really frosts me is after notifying the vendor of the situation, nothing was done. Of course, I was the only person who had reported a problem -- think I mentioned that in a prior post, sorry about my dain bramage. I understand about the DOA business, but this is a situation that obviously was serious beyond a couple of DOA cartos and needed immediate attention. To let the customer end up holding the bag left a bad taste in my mouth. I'm just glad Boge came out with the longer carto and I'm done with the vendor and SmokTek. I am not rich enough to keep taking the chance with these cartos. I would need very definitive proof and a sign from the vendor they were willing to "share the pain" in this case. It truly is a shame for the industry as a whole when something like this happens.
 

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Well folks there is definately a change with Smoktech cartos apparently they are trying to make their filler more like Boge. Epic fail! They shouldn't fix what isn't broken! I suggest each and every one of you speak to your vendors about your discontent with the new polyfill. I amicably resolved my problems with the vendor I bought from. I hate to see any newbies or people unaware buy these and be totally turned off cartomizers. Smoktech really needs to shape up---I don't trust them anymore either.

They are watching this thread
 

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Went through the same thing, going through 10 of them hoping it was just a fluke. Now I have a few boxes of unused ones that I'm probably going to toss.

Does anyone know if there are any vendors still shipping "old" stock? I'm only aware of two vendors that sell them. It's kind of counter intuitive if we're not allowed to mention the bad ones anyway.

edit: anyone using thick juices in the Boges?

I use thick juices. I do the Taryn Spin method to fill my cartos before vaping them. Even after I fill them I let them sit for about a half an hour. I guess it depends on how long you should let it sit according to what device you are using.

I ordered from CCV and had the same problem with the Smoktechs
 

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That shocks me you guys are having so many issues with the Smoktechs. I have had some duds for sure (hence my participation in this thread) but no where near the number you guys are indicating. That is nuts! If THAT MANY are bad right from the get go, there is something very very wrong and I hope the vendors and Smoktech are taking note. Based on a previous (now deleted) post, I think we know Smoktech is watching the forums.

Haha yes...that's why I just responded to a post by saying they are watching this thread.
I hope I don't have to change my identity :blink: I think I've got some pretty mad Vendors at me right about now.
 

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I'm sure they are watching this thread, Keekers. What I wish they would do is make those of us who have been burned whole again. I don't mean to keep harping about the money, but I just can't afford to try other vendors and hope for the best. It is a sad situation. If they are truly a "stand up" company, what would a couple hundred, even thousand, cartos be to them to make people trust them again? I have lost all faith in the company and will avoid their products like the plague. Far as I'm concerned, the next move is theirs. How they respond will ultimately show how much they care about QC and customer satisfaction.
BTW..... Go Blue!!!!!
 

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I'm sure they are watching this thread, Keekers. What I wish they would do is make those of us who have been burned whole again. I don't mean to keep harping about the money, but I just can't afford to try other vendors and hope for the best. It is a sad situation. If they are truly a "stand up" company, what would a couple hundred, even thousand, cartos be to them to make people trust them again? I have lost all faith in the company and will avoid their products like the plague. Far as I'm concerned, the next move is theirs. How they respond will ultimately show how much they care about QC and customer satisfaction.
BTW..... Go Blue!!!!!

I know...I understand what you're talking about. It doesn't seem like that's going to happen unfortunately. I'm sure this thread isn't helping their business. I am quite positive it is being looked into but as for making their wrongs right...I doubt it's going to happen if it hasn't by now. Go BLUE! :)
 

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I agree nothing will happen as well. Also agree that this thread is not helping them, but I'm sure their "business plan" does not factor in customer satisfaction. They figure another "mark" will come along and they just keep on pumping out their product with no regard or true pride in workmanship like we see in the US of A. I've always hoped (and will continue to do so) that someone in the US will start making cartos and attys. It would be worth the extra money to buy from and support companies here rather than on the Pacific Rim.
My apologies if I have offended anyone with my jingoistic comments, but I'm so tired of getting sub-par products. I jumped for joy when companies in the US started making PV's. Hopefully as the e-cig trend grows, someone will take the incentive to make other products here. Let the Pacific Rim companies keep and sell their products over there. I'm willing to bet they will be laying off workers due to the lower order volume if that ever happens.

PS -- This is going to hurt, Keekers, but I must also say Go Bucks.... I grew up just about straddling the OH / MI border. Saturdays in the fall were always difficult days for me....lol.
 

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I've always hoped (and will continue to do so) that someone in the US will start making cartos and attys. It would be worth the extra money to buy from and support companies here rather than on the Pacific Rim.
Well. I not trying to sound like this may, but there would be so many rules and regulations, taxes, and government BS that the price per carto would cost a fortune. Come to think of it, I suppose we already had actually......The rebuild able attys are catchin on like crazy. I have one, I love it.
 
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