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Balancing Political Correctness with Biblical Correctness...........

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tornado9015

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Cannot be done. Don't bother trying. The simplest most fundamental belief in Christianity is believe in Jesus or burn in hell. That completely goes against the nature of freedom of religion. There are many more specific arguments, but when the most fundamental principle makes it impossible, I feel no reason to go further.
 

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Sometimes, even saying that God is in fact real, offends an atheist. I'm not even kidding.

Most people seem to confuse atheism with agnosticism. A true atheist should be offended if somebody states that God exists, because it contradicts their religion, in the exact same way saying that their is no god contradicts Christianity. Atheism is the firm belief, to the point of religion, that there is no God or higher force, what we experience now is the only reality, and when we die nothing happens.
 

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personally, i have no quarrel with offending someone. political correctness, in my ever so humble opinion, is the primary reason our great nation is in the state that it's in. i mean, there's a coalition for the rights of illegal aliens...which is itself a contradiction of terms. at any rate, the only being i truly have to impress is God, and though i'm bound by code to love and defend my fellow man, i'm not gonna tapdance around an issue to spare them hard feelings.
 

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Jesus was incredibly loving, gentle and compassionate, but He wasn't wimpy when it came to spreading His message. He even freaked out at the money changers in the temple. He battled with the Pharisees, and many others. He called a spade a spade.

He also said "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

I believe that means the sword of truth and justice. He also came to be a sacrifice for all, so He does love all, but He loves truth also.
 

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I don't know about the PC part. That term implies some things that "we shouldn't talk about" or "have tolerance over".

People perish for lack of the knowledge.

But there are many ways in which comunication can take place from the downright offensive on one end, to the polite and compassionate on the other. Both of those ways can speak the Gospel, but I think one displays it better than the other.

We can't be silent and still fulfill the great commision. I have a feeling that when I'm truly humble, and at "a place" where I'm not able to be offended by words or actions, then I will be able to speak the truth without unnecessarily offending.

Some will be offended regardless becasue the Gospel is foolishness to those who are perishing, but we can make it worse than it needs to be if we are not careful and deliberate in our approach.

The flip side is that there are times when it is right to preach boldly which can offend. But far more Christian's than not use/claim righteous indignation as and excuse to be unrighteously angry and sometimes down right mean. Which isn't preaching Christ.
 

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I don't know about the PC part. That term implies some things that "we shouldn't talk about" or "have tolerance over".

People perish for lack of the knowledge.

But there are many ways in which comunication can take place from the downright offensive on one end, to the polite and compassionate on the other. Both of those ways can speak the Gospel, but I think one displays it better than the other.

We can't be silent and still fulfill the great commision. I have a feeling that when I'm truly humble, and at "a place" where I'm not able to be offended by words or actions, then I will be able to speak the truth without unnecessarily offending.

Some will be offended regardless becasue the Gospel is foolishness to those who are perishing, but we can make it worse than it needs to be if we are not careful and deliberate in our approach.

The flip side is that there are times when it is right to preach boldly which can offend. But far more Christian's than not use/claim righteous indignation as and excuse to be unrighteously angry and sometimes down right mean. Which isn't preaching Christ.

Very much agree with your thoughts. We as Christians have actually a dual citizenship. We are to be citizens of the kingdom of God and citizens of our country of which we are to obey the laws. The PC crowd screams that we should be more tolerant and accepting of things (that sometimes) the Bible itself condemns. Sometimes this "tolerance" or "acceptance" causes many of us to violate our consciences in the name sake of peace. It then becomes an issue of priority. Of which kingdom are we a citizen first? Which kingdom takes priority? The Bible says that we are to obey the laws of the land provided they do not conflict with the word of God.
 

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Very much agree with your thoughts. We as Christians have actually a dual citizenship. We are to be citizens of the kingdom of God and citizens of our country of which we are to obey the laws. The PC crowd screams that we should be more tolerant and accepting of things (that sometimes) the Bible itself condemns. Sometimes this "tolerance" or "acceptance" causes many of us to violate our consciences in the name sake of peace. It then becomes an issue of priority. Of which kingdom are we a citizen first? Which kingdom takes priority? The Bible says that we are to obey the laws of the land provided they do not conflict with the word of God.

The bible also says respect thy neighbor, and judge not lest ye be judged. Although it is difficult, if not impossible to obey all teachings of the bible simultaneously, I choose to believe that respecting the beliefs of others takes a priority for humans, and God himself will sort out those he deems sinful when they are dead, or in the case of Noah's ark, or Sodom and Gomorrah, God will see fit to sort it out before death.
 

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The bible also says respect thy neighbor, and judge not lest ye be judged. Although it is difficult, if not impossible to obey all teachings of the bible simultaneously, I choose to believe that respecting the beliefs of others takes a priority for humans, and God himself will sort out those he deems sinful when they are dead, or in the case of Noah's ark, or Sodom and Gomorrah, God will see fit to sort it out before death.

I agree that it is God who will sort the wheat from the chaff. The problem lies in the lack of PC correctness for the Christian. We are not advocating violence, judgment or anything of the sort. The Christian voice has been stifled in the name of PC. The word of God even spoken with love and compassion is construed as being judgmental and condemning.
 

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We as Christians have actually a dual citizenship. We are to be citizens of the kingdom of God and citizens of our country of which we are to obey the laws. The PC crowd screams that we should be more tolerant and accepting of things (that sometimes) the Bible itself condemns. Sometimes this "tolerance" or "acceptance" causes many of us to violate our consciences in the name sake of peace. It then becomes an issue of priority. Of which kingdom are we a citizen first? Which kingdom takes priority? The Bible says that we are to obey the laws of the land provided they do not conflict with the word of God.

I agree with you wholeheartedly.
 

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The "judge not least you be judged" verse has been used to keep Christian's from judging righteously which we are told to do.

The word "judge" means to try, condemn, and punish.

We are not to try, condemn, and punish the world for what they do or we shall be chastised by the Lord in like manner. It is God's place to do these things, and we don't know who "will be" added to the flock in the future.

We are commanded to look at each other (fellow Christians) and exhort, rebuke, motivate, and encourage one another to walk as we aught to. You can't do this if you aren't looking, and you can do it wrong if you aren't judging rightly, or righteously.

This is why it becomes important to be part of small group study (home studies, cell groups they have different names). When part of your fellowship is with a small group that come together often, you come to know and trust and care for each other. Jesus had 70 that He sent out, but 12 that were close and 3 (Peter, John and James) that were in an "inner" circle of intimacy. It is with these intimate inner circle of believers that trust is built up where you can receive right criticism in love, "Brother you have mustard on your face", and not become uncomfortable or offended.

We must judge, but we must know what that really means, and we must do it in the Spirit of Christ or we will cause problems.

We do not judge or condemn the world, they already stand judged and condemned. That is why we share the Gospel.
 

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I agree that it is God who will sort the wheat from the chaff. The problem lies in the lack of PC correctness for the Christian. We are not advocating violence, judgment or anything of the sort. The Christian voice has been stifled in the name of PC. The word of God even spoken with love and compassion is construed as being judgmental and condemning.

I believe I know where you are coming from, though I cannot be sure, if I am correct I see your point, but I disagree. Nobody is going to churches and talking about how outraged they are that this is being practiced. On the other hand the word of God is barred from public schools in any context other than literary analysis. This is not because schools agree or disagree with religion, but because it is not their place to decide. If people want their children to be taught religion in schools, there are schools specifically for that. In public schools, it is up for the students, or their guardians to decide, not the teachers or faculty. Christians wouldn't like Judaism being taught to their children, the same goes for Jewish people who would not want Christianity being taught.
 

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Matthew 10:22 "You will be hated by all because of My name, but it is the one who has endured to the end who will be saved.

Why would we be hated? Because we are told to speak the truth, not all is ok, not all roads lead to heaven, not all worship is acceptable or correct. A good example of this is the people who strap on bombs and kill innocent people in the name of Allah.......yes, that is some people's form of worship........can you even imagine how He feels about that? It's difficult to even think about.

We are told to speak the truth. We are told to pick up our cross and follow Him. We are told that we will be hated and persecuted for it, we were told that the world will hate us. We were told that not everyone will listen to the Gospel and that we should shake the dust off our sandals and move on to the next person.

Jesus told us ahead of time what it would be like, and He wasn't wrong :)
 

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The word of God even spoken with love and compassion is construed as being judgmental and condemning.

^This is a sad but true fact. It is also necesary for the setting up of the end of times.

There will be a day when one world government and religion will "solve the worlds medical, food and supply problems". We as Christians will be seen as the fruitcake nutjobs who just don't get it. That is when the great persecution of Christian's will be leagal and necessary for the new world order's adgenda to be unresisted.


Heb 10:25
not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near.

I see the day drawing near.
 
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