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Ban e-cigs on planes? Congressman vapes in protest

Discussion in 'Legislation News' started by henrykrinkle, Feb 11, 2016.

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  1. skoony

    skoony Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 31, 2013
    saint paul,mn,usa
    I don't know if this rumor is true or not. However many people pre-ship there luggage
    to there destination either directly to their living accommodations or I believe the
    shipper will hold them at there local warehouse until called for.
    Regards
    Mike
     
  2. 2coils

    2coils Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 29, 2012
    New Jersey
    I would not mind a ban on hot air, as that would silence most politicians and ALL Anti's ;)
     
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  3. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Dec 14, 2013
    NE FL
    The problem is, the politicians would exempt themselves from such a ban. :mad:
     
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  4. RosaJ

    RosaJ Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 30, 2012
    The Woodlands, TX, USA
    I've been a vaper for 4 years and have frequented this forum all that time. I don't know of any airline that would allow vaping openly during flight in an airplane. I've always also heard that you cannot carry any batteries in the checked baggage. You can carry it in your hand carrier though, but not use a vaporizer while in flight.

    So I don't understand why the big surprise when they make it a written policy when you couldn't do it all along without one.
     
  5. jonnychadootz

    jonnychadootz Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 27, 2014
    Westchester, NY
    Would I like vaping banned on flights - No (really shouldn't have to be)

    At the same time people should have some measure of self control not to vape while sitting next to other people on flights. If you want to vape that badly, go into the bathroom. Vaping in the bathroom should be encouraged by every1 (including the airline) due to the bathroom frequently being blown up.
     
  6. Racehorse

    Racehorse ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 12, 2012
    USA midwest
    Not sure where all the accusations toward vapers are coming from?

    AFAIC, most are busy turning smokers on to vapers, writing emails, letters, and doing the surveys, etc. My rep is a neighbor so I was actually able to approach the situation in a real living room. :)

    I don't get this bashing vapers thing, like somehow they are a lazy bunch of sloths who have their head up their butts and no clue that vaping has experienced a severe number of obstacles. Mostly regional at this point.

    And that only people who CONSTANTLY post about this stuff are "doing something.":rolleyes:


    As for a major vaper uprising, not that much of the total population vapes, and of that population, you think maybe 1-2% fly a lot, and out of that 1-2% who fly a lot, a good number of them have zero problem just not vaping while in the air. Yeah, REALLy. :)

    You are really over estimating the "shock, horror and awe" that would or even should be given to this idea of no vaping in the air.

    Most people who fly a lot are used to restrictions. I haven't seen many major uprisings in the general business population about 3/4 of the hassles that have become regular inconvenience during flying since TSA and homeland security, etc.

    Sorry, I guess I just don't get or agree with what you posted.


    You know, I have found people who really care often are the ones who are not busy getting hystrionic over stuff.....they are quietly working their magic, sometimes behind the scenes.

    This won't be the first time that "vapers" (whoever that is, because it comprises a lot of different types of people, mostly people who are NOT ON INTERNET FORUMS is my bet) have been "taken to task" for needing some kind of kick in the butt.

    Sorry, but I think most are trying their best to keep things alive, and trying their best to do whatever balancing act they feel is APPROPRIATE.

    Not all vapers are activists, militants, or even wish to be escorted off a flight by security for setting off alarms. They have families to support, jobs to keep, and just want to get from point A to point B for their work/job with the least amount of hassle. MOst business travellers I know have a pretty good arsenal of patches, snus, and other HARM REDUCTION PRODUCTS.

    Vaping really isn't even necessary on airplanes.
     
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  7. DC2

    DC2 Tootie Puffer Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 21, 2009
    San Diego
    I didn't think you would.

    In the first four or five years I was a vaper I did everything I could think of.
    It didn't work.

    So what do you suggest?
     
  8. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 25, 2014
    Metropolis Il.
    The point is, I could care less about vaping in a plane, I just want to be able to take it with me on vacation and vape there once the plane has landed. My initial question was do I have to mail my stuff there now, or can I take as a carry on. The 18650 battery has been getting bad press because of the hoverboards. I just want to bring 2 mods and 6 batteries, and of about 6 50mls of juice with 4 tanks a dripper or two. And a chareger. I'll take the batteries out and have cases. That shoud work for me for a week.
     
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  9. nomore stinkies

    nomore stinkies Gee, Who did that? ECF Veteran

    Feb 23, 2014
    IL
    What I find the most appalling is the ignorance of the legislatures. That woman had NO clue what a vaporizer was or even meant. Stunning- they vote on legislation and have absolutely NO clue what it's about, how it works or even what it is! Looks like smoke must be smoke. One would think they would at least Google the topic they are voting on. Yes, yes, yes I am delusional. UGH.
     
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  10. element77

    element77 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 2, 2012
    Atl, Ga
    Im a tootle puffer.
    When I vape at a library or restaurant or in the office, I stealth vape, so no visible emission is produced. I diy vanilla only, so no strong or offensive scent is produced.

    I fly once or twice a month, I've never had any issues to date with my two batteries in a case, charger, mod and two 30ml bottles of liquid in my carry on mixed in with my other things..laptop, cell phone, charger, undies, socks, etc.
    I usually stealth vape on the plane a bit to clear my atty of any over saturation to avoid leaking upon pressurization.
    I use a bottom feeder and disassemble it during takeoff and slightly unscrew the bottle to avoid auto feeding. Sometimes the person next to me will ask what it is while I'm doing this, I've had great flight long discussions with people on the subject.
    The funniest time was I had already done all this prior to preflight instructions and had already asked and recieved permission from the passenger next to me, (a quick explanation of the device was given to him) when the flight attendant stood directly in the aisle next to me with her back facing us.
    She began with the no smoking is allowed on any flights including the bathroom, then added "this includes e-cigarettes, and don't even try it! I will catch you!". We both noted the toneof that statement and agreed it was inappropriate. To prove the point I was making to my seating companion earlier about the unobtrusiveness of vaping, I pulled my mod and vaped it three times while she continued with the seatbelts, breathing masks, in the event of a water landing, etc.
    I could have prodded her backside with my elbow from my location, but she nor anyone else was none the wiser.
    The reality is there really exists an extreme prejudice against vaping by regulations. How inclined one is to following rules for the sake of following them usually coincides with their open-mindedness to see the positive impact vaping can have on our culture at large.
    I would recommend that any vaper no how to build for satisfying stealth vaping to have in your arsenal of skills a less obtrusive experience for others when the setting calls for such.
    Clouds are fun too, i enjoy them from time to time, so this is by no means a cloud bash, like all things...extreme doesn't fit all social settings.
     
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  11. Semiretired

    Semiretired Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Sep 24, 2011
    Middle Georgia
    I have heard of a few airlines limiting the batteries to 4 batteries for carry on. I carry 3 and my wife carries 3 for me...
     
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  12. Semiretired

    Semiretired Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Sep 24, 2011
    Middle Georgia
    Yea, clouds on an airplane would not go over very good... I stealth vape and exhale to the floor. I have had a stewardess looking right at me and smirk, but not say anything when I do it. I keep it to a very very minimum during the trip - it is a 15 hour flight...
     
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  13. sofarsogood

    sofarsogood Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Oct 12, 2014
    I'm learning I can stealth vape almost anywhere if that's really necessary. On the rare occaisions when I can't vape for some long hours there is nothing like the jonesing their used to be with cigs. I don't vape planes because I've heard the smoke detectors can be super sensitive. May be someday I'll find out the recipe for invisible vaper. I've seen it demonstrated on youtube videos. I spent a week as a juror in Federal Court. "Truth, justice, and the American way" benefited because I could vape in the jury room during breaks. The smoker among the 8 of us was jealous.

    How about a mod that's disguised to look like an asthma inhaler?
     
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  14. Ipster

    Ipster Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Aloha RosaJ;
    Thanks for dropping by. Actually in the most formative of vaping Airlines and the industry at large hadnt decided if vape or not could work. The first year (way before cloud chasers) the little cig-a-likes were sometimes allowed aboard planes. It didnt take long for the ANTZ to whine and fuss and complain and as Vaping became more popular, the ban began. Still I find some smaller Pacific, and Asian carriers dont run through the rig a marole after seat belts that the Yank and EU Carriers do- remind all the "children" on board that smoking and the use of E Cigarettes are strictly forbidden.
    Totlepuffers can be stealthy on long trips. The real key is to gain the access to upper class private sleeping births and privacy. The world's all about money honey...the more you get, the more you "get away with",,,,and yes it pisses me off to no end...all these regulations...Arrrgh!
     
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  15. OldBatty

    OldBatty Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 28, 2014
    North Georgia USA
    100 % PG. Hold it in a few seconds and exhale slowly. Do not forget to let off on the button a half a second before you stop inhaling or there may be tiny wisps from the mouthpiece. Caveat, this is with second generation MTL gear. Not sure how well this would work with higher wattage or direct lung hits. Nic is easy to source in 100% PG, flavors vary widely but most flavors are not very stealthy.
     
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  16. sofarsogood

    sofarsogood Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Oct 12, 2014
    I do DIY and usually use 1.0-1.5% flavoring. I'll have to try a small batch of 98% pg and see how it works. Thanks for the tip.
     
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  17. Ipster

    Ipster Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Lmao! We are telling someone how to violate federal and international laws? OH...I guess it depends on flight's destination. I admit, it does work, like most of life, in moderation.
    Cheers.
     
  18. element77

    element77 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 2, 2012
    Atl, Ga
    Worked again like a charm to Atlanta and back this past weekend, no mention of e-cigs in preflight this time, interesting.
    Guy next the me asked why I disassembled the bottles at takeoff and we talked about cabin pressure build up forcing liquid out and making a mess in my pocket.
    He said ohh so that's what happened when I flew with one back in the day.
    He dips when flying, cause he didn't know why his vaporizer always leaked on the plane.
     
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