I thought those ideas sounded familiar. I got hooked on her when I was in college and should have been reading my textbooks instead.
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It appears that the fine for using a cigarette on an airplane is $2,200. And if they somehow bust you in the bathroom, it's $3,300.
The regulation simply folds e-cigarettes into the definition of "smoking," so the same fine would apply.
Ohh, and remember that e-cigarette user who threw peanuts at a flight attendant after he was told he couldn't use it? The criminal complaint filed against him is on WestLaw, and despite the government believing (wrongly) that the current regulation could cover e-cigarettes, they did not charge him with "smoking" on an airplane.
The regulation simply folds e-cigarettes into the definition of "smoking," so the same fine would apply.
Ohh, and remember that e-cigarette user who threw peanuts at a flight attendant after he was told he couldn't use it? The criminal complaint filed against him is on WestLaw, and despite the government believing (wrongly) that the current regulation could cover e-cigarettes, they did not charge him with "smoking" on an airplane.
Yea, especially Big Tobacco, whom I also wouldn't be surprised is part of who is trying to tax e-cigs!
I'm not sure of the exact charge. But it would be the same charge anyone would receive if they pitched a fit on a plane and interfered with/accosted a flight attendant. They don't take that lightly, especially in this post-9/11 world. And just my opinion, but he deserves whatever charge they did give him.
His behavior sounds so bizarre that I have to wonder if he was intoxicated.
i was on a flight a couple weeks ago (don't remember who i felw with...delta maybe?), and while waiting for the "you can now use your ipods and toys and stuff" announcement, i read the little pamphlet in the back of the seat in front of me. i was suprised to see that next to the no smoking portion of the rules there was a side note that said "this includes electronic cigarettes".
As I recall, interfering with a flight attendant or something to that extent. It's the garden variety "dumb schmuck on a plane" charge.
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Department of Transportation Rule Would Prohibit Use of E-Cigarettes on Airlines — Troutman Sanders Tobacco Team
Department of Transportation Rule Would Prohibit Use of E-Cigarettes on Airlines
by Troutman Sanders Tobacco Law Team
The U.S. Department of Transportation has issued a proposed rule to amend its existing airline smoking rule to explicitly ban the use of electronic cigarettes (“e-cigarettes”) on all aircraft in scheduled passenger interstate, intrastate and foreign air transportation. The smoking of cigarettes has been prohibited on airlines for a number of years, and the proposed rule would treat e-cigarettes the same as tobacco products.
The Department of Transportation indicated that it was taking this action because of the increased promotion of electronic cigarettes and the potential health and passenger comfort concerns that they pose in an aircraft. The proposed rule noted that “[e-cigarettes] are marketed as being permissible in places where cigarette use is prohibited.” The Department of Transportation went so far as to comment: “We see no reason to treat electronic cigarettes any differently than traditional cigarettes.”
The comment period on the proposed rule ends on November 14, 2011. As federal, state and local governments increase their focus on the sale and use of tobacco, the Troutman Sanders Tobacco Team will continue to monitor developments in this area. If you have any questions about the proposed regulations or would like assistance in developing and submitting comments in response, please contact an attorney from the Troutman Sanders Tobacco Team.
Department of Transportation Rule Would Prohibit Use of E-Cigarettes on Airlines
by Troutman Sanders Tobacco Law Team
The U.S. Department of Transportation has issued a proposed rule to amend its existing airline smoking rule to explicitly ban the use of electronic cigarettes (“e-cigarettes”) on all aircraft in scheduled passenger interstate, intrastate and foreign air transportation. The smoking of cigarettes has been prohibited on airlines for a number of years, and the proposed rule would treat e-cigarettes the same as tobacco products.
The Department of Transportation indicated that it was taking this action because of the increased promotion of electronic cigarettes and the potential health and passenger comfort concerns that they pose in an aircraft. The proposed rule noted that “[e-cigarettes] are marketed as being permissible in places where cigarette use is prohibited.” The Department of Transportation went so far as to comment: “We see no reason to treat electronic cigarettes any differently than traditional cigarettes.”
The comment period on the proposed rule ends on November 14, 2011. As federal, state and local governments increase their focus on the sale and use of tobacco, the Troutman Sanders Tobacco Team will continue to monitor developments in this area. If you have any questions about the proposed regulations or would like assistance in developing and submitting comments in response, please contact an attorney from the Troutman Sanders Tobacco Team.
The American Aviation Institute posted an interesting, well-informed comment on the regulation's docket.
Regulations.gov (view the PDF)
Regulations.gov (view the PDF)
Comments are entered at Regulations.gov. The id for this proposed regulation is Docket ID: DOT-OST-2011-0044
RIN:2105-AE06
This link should take you to the Docket Folder Summary. Regulations.gov
To submit a comment, from this page, click the link "Comment Due." There is an icon of a talk bubble next to the link. This link is located below the bottom item in the list of items in the docket folder.
If you are having problems seeing where this link is located (the font must be about 6 pt), try this link instead and see if it takes you directly to a comment form: Regulations.gov
If you want to read through the proposed regulation, click the PDF button in "View As" column for the line "Smoking of Electronic Cigarettes on Aircraft." This line is the last item in the list of items in the docket folder. I suspect that all new comments will be added at the top.
What I find strange is that there are over 300 comments, but they are not placed inside of the Docket Folder. The Docket Folder only contains 3 items. If you search Regulations.gov on just the Docket ID: DOT-OST-2011-0044, on the tab View by Relevance you see the list of >300 comments. However, there is another Docket ID for a Department of Energy Proposed Rle mixed into this list of comments.
Energy Efficiency of Low-Voltage Dry-Type Distribution Transformers: Negotiated Rulemaking Subcommittee Meetings
Document ID: DOE_FRDOC_0001-1660Document Type: Proposed Rule
RIN:2105-AE06
This link should take you to the Docket Folder Summary. Regulations.gov
To submit a comment, from this page, click the link "Comment Due." There is an icon of a talk bubble next to the link. This link is located below the bottom item in the list of items in the docket folder.
If you are having problems seeing where this link is located (the font must be about 6 pt), try this link instead and see if it takes you directly to a comment form: Regulations.gov
If you want to read through the proposed regulation, click the PDF button in "View As" column for the line "Smoking of Electronic Cigarettes on Aircraft." This line is the last item in the list of items in the docket folder. I suspect that all new comments will be added at the top.
What I find strange is that there are over 300 comments, but they are not placed inside of the Docket Folder. The Docket Folder only contains 3 items. If you search Regulations.gov on just the Docket ID: DOT-OST-2011-0044, on the tab View by Relevance you see the list of >300 comments. However, there is another Docket ID for a Department of Energy Proposed Rle mixed into this list of comments.
Energy Efficiency of Low-Voltage Dry-Type Distribution Transformers: Negotiated Rulemaking Subcommittee Meetings
Document ID: DOE_FRDOC_0001-1660Document Type: Proposed Rule
I have posted a CASAA Call to Action that includes a direct link to the Comments form for this proposed regulation. It includes hints on how to submit your comment and what to say.
You do not need to cover all of the talking points, if you don't wish to do so.
You are welcome to include your personal story of how e-cigarettes have helped you with your smoking and especially if you have had improvements in your health as a result.
CASAA.org
NOTE: Comments are only being accepted through November 14, 2011. Let your voice be heard!
You do not need to cover all of the talking points, if you don't wish to do so.
You are welcome to include your personal story of how e-cigarettes have helped you with your smoking and especially if you have had improvements in your health as a result.
CASAA.org
NOTE: Comments are only being accepted through November 14, 2011. Let your voice be heard!
"teenager inspired backtalk response":: NO Problem - I'm not SMOKING my Pv anyway - just using a battery powered device. I totally agree they should ban lighting these on fire - they are too useful! 
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