Ban tobacco products and I will quit vaping

[shan57]

I am sick of people comparing vapor products with tobacco products. The FDA refuses to state the truth that they are well aware of...e-cigs are safer than tobacco products.

Polonium 210 along with its ugly cousin lead 210 are not in my e-liquid but are in all tobacco products. This radiation causes " hot spots" in the lung tissue. Lung cancer baby. For over 40 friggin years big tobacco KNEW radioactive particles were in combustiable tobacco AND 2nd hand smoke and did nothing because the acid wash process to remove it was (1) too expensive (2) would defuse the nicotine rush that smokers get from the first hits off of a smoke. I am not going to even go into the 4000 plus additives in the average cigarette.

Therefore, I propose this: the day the FDA bans tobacco products, I will accept their "deeming" of vapor products. Fat chance that's going to happen.

 

[sofarsogood]

I am sick of people comparing vapor products with tobacco products. The FDA refuses to state the truth that they are well aware of...e-cigs are safer than tobacco products.

Polonium 210 along with its ugly cousin lead 210 are not in my e-liquud but are in all tobacco products. This radiation causes " hot spots" in the lung tissue. Lung cancer baby. For over 40 friggin years big tobacco KNEW radioactive particles were in combustiable tobacco AND 2nd hand smoke and did nothing because the acid wash process to remove it was (1) too expensive (2) would defuse the nicotine rush that smokers get from the first hits off of a smoke. I am not going to even go into the 4000 plus additives in the average cigarette.

Therefore, I propose this: the day the FDA bans tobacco products, I will accept their "deeming" of vapor products. Fat chance that's going to happen.

That's a challenge I agree with. If smoking is banned I don't need vaping to keep me away from cigarettes. What the Federal Drug Administration and the entire public health communtiy want is for vaping to be banned while cigarettes remain available the same as always. How do we get rid of these people?

 

[shan57]

The irony is that they are worried about the "safety" of our vapor products when they KNOW the exposed risks of tobacco. Its like saying "son - don't play with that fire cracker while your neighbor is playing with an H-bomb.

 

[zoiDman]

I am sick of people comparing vapor products with tobacco products. The FDA refuses to state the truth that they are well aware of...e-cigs are safer than tobacco products.

Polonium 210 along with its ugly cousin lead 210 are not in my e-liquid but are in all tobacco products. This radiation causes " hot spots" in the lung tissue. Lung cancer baby. For over 40 friggin years big tobacco KNEW radioactive particles were in combustiable tobacco AND 2nd hand smoke and did nothing because the acid wash process to remove it was (1) too expensive (2) would defuse the nicotine rush that smokers get from the first hits off of a smoke. I am not going to even go into the 4000 plus additives in the average cigarette.

Therefore, I propose this: the day the FDA bans tobacco products, I will accept their "deeming" of vapor products. Fat chance that's going to happen.

Have you Contacted you Reps or the FDA and told them how You Feel?

 

[Tommy-Chi]

I am sick of people comparing vapor products with tobacco products. The FDA refuses to state the truth that they are well aware of...e-cigs are safer than tobacco products.

Polonium 210 along with its ugly cousin lead 210 are not in my e-liquid but are in all tobacco products. This radiation causes " hot spots" in the lung tissue. Lung cancer baby. For over 40 friggin years big tobacco KNEW radioactive particles were in combustiable tobacco AND 2nd hand smoke and did nothing because the acid wash process to remove it was (1) too expensive (2) would defuse the nicotine rush that smokers get from the first hits off of a smoke. I am not going to even go into the 4000 plus additives in the average cigarette.

Therefore, I propose this: the day the FDA bans tobacco products, I will accept their "deeming" of vapor products. Fat chance that's going to happen.

I gave you a thumbs up with the following stipulation: They leave vaping products alone.

 

[shan57]

Have you Contacted you Reps or the FDA and told them how You Feel?

Yes I have...have you?

 

[shan57]

Have recently lost two aunts (ex-smokers) from lung cancer. Smoking is the enemy, not vaping.

 

[Bob Chill]

I disagree with the context. Both products should be freely available side by side forever. Free choice. I choose vaping and I should never have to give up my free choice for any reason. Same goes for a lot of other things. My life my choice.

 

[zoiDman]

Yes I have...have you?

More than Once.

 

[mattiem]

I disagree with the context. Both products should be freely available side by side forever. Free choice. I choose vaping and I should never have to give up my free choice for any reason. Same goes for a lot of other things. My life my choice.

I agree Bob. I refuse to throw smokers under the bus just because I have chosen to vape. We should all be fighting for freedom to chose no matter which choice we make. I also refuse to keep passing along all the lies and half truths that have been said so many times through the years that they are now considered absolute facts

 

[daviedog]

I am sick of people comparing vapor products with tobacco products. The FDA refuses to state the truth that they are well aware of...e-cigs are safer than tobacco products.

Polonium 210 along with its ugly cousin lead 210 are not in my e-liquid but are in all tobacco products. This radiation causes " hot spots" in the lung tissue. Lung cancer baby. For over 40 friggin years big tobacco KNEW radioactive particles were in combustiable tobacco AND 2nd hand smoke and did nothing because the acid wash process to remove it was (1) too expensive (2) would defuse the nicotine rush that smokers get from the first hits off of a smoke. I am not going to even go into the 4000 plus additives in the average cigarette.

Therefore, I propose this: the day the FDA bans tobacco products, I will accept their "deeming" of vapor products. Fat chance that's going to happen.

I wouldn't accept deeming or anything else the FDA proposes..

 

[Bob Chill]

The beauty of unregulated free choice is self regulation. If you want to do something and have choices, the better option will prevail while the worse option fails and goes away by default. Then a better option comes along and competes with the current favorite.

Many times regulation creates only one option/choice. Then a monopoly quickly follows. The consumer ends up on the losing end almost every time.

This is a simplistic explanation because there are times when regulation is good. But we live in a country/world where regulation favors the big guys and stomps on the small guys.

Off topic here but I'm personally a huge believer and herbal medicine. And I'm not talking the obvious herbal. Natural remedies can be quite effective and they are 100% legal. But they aren't allowed to make any health claims and never get any national attention or recommendations from doctors. Studies have been done showing effectiveness too. But you can't have a plant do a pill's job can you...so stupid.

 

[WharfRat1976]

I am sick of people comparing vapor products with tobacco products.

Yea, if only eliquid nicotine was not derived from tobacco.

 

[DaltonShires]

Vaping should not be compared with tobacco.. It is safer..I think it depends of an individual when it comes to selection between vaping or tobacco products..

 

[ENAUD]

Oral nicotine consumption, an idea I have been pondering for quite some time now. Take away the smoke, take away the vapor. A simple syrup solution containing a nicotine base. Rather easy to do the math, figure out how many drops per ml your chosen bottle will deliver. Once you figure out the volume per drop of the simple syrup you decide on, you figure how many mg's you want in each drop and formulate your recipe accordingly. Dosing schedule can be decided upon time intervals and volume of drops per dose to maintain a comfortable level of nicotine dosage delivered. A sugar cube, or even a piece of cotton could be used to absorb the dose between the cheek and gum.

 

[Cgeckorun]

Smoking and the FDA are our enemy's

 

[UnclePsyko]

The beauty of unregulated free choice is self regulation. If you want to do something and have choices, the better option will prevail while the worse option fails and goes away by default. Then a better option comes along and competes with the current favorite.

Many times regulation creates only one option/choice. Then a monopoly quickly follows. The consumer ends up on the losing end almost every time.

This is a simplistic explanation because there are times when regulation is good. But we live in a country/world where regulation favors the big guys and stomps on the small guys.

Off topic here but I'm personally a huge believer and herbal medicine. And I'm not talking the obvious herbal. Natural remedies can be quite effective and they are 100% legal. But they aren't allowed to make any health claims and never get any national attention or recommendations from doctors. Studies have been done showing effectiveness too. But you can't have a plant do a pill's job can you...so stupid.

WOW! I couldn't agree more (or "like" more...)
Since when did it become the government's job to spend billions of our dollars to bail out companies we don't support in order to save them from extinction? I thought they were supposed to represent us and look out for our best interest.
To quote Homer Simpson... "I'm living in a cuckoo clock!"

 

[juicynoos]

Woosh...there goes our freedom of choice.
The cancer you seek to avoid by vaping was a great and healthier choice by far. The next threat is outside your body but how to cut the cancer out of our Governmental body's?

 

[supertrunker]

The FDA cannot ban tobacco. It does not have that authority. What it proposes for vaping will be in effect a ban, because travelling back in time to 2007 is rather difficult.

What amuses me about this entire nonsense, is their unwillingness to accept scientific fact - that vaping is safer than smoking. Any health organisation ought to welcome anything that improves the life expectancy and health of a population.
That they don't just shows it's a corrupt quango with a political and puritan agenda that it's trying to hide.

T

 

[zoiDman]

... Any health organisation ought to welcome anything that improves the life expectancy and health of a population. ...

That is what Health Agencies in this country were Originally formed to do.

It is Amazing how Far things have gone.