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on that one the mod itself is a good source as well If it doesn't go over 4.2 it does not have a boost if it's a single battery If it's a dual battery I don't even know what to tell you lol that would be crazy
I admit it, he just severely grates on me as a person. And the childish act of literally taking a hammer to objects he doesn't like...forget the bozo. I couldn't watch him even if he gave glowing approval of my preferred devices.
 

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I admit it, he just severely grates on me as a person. And the childish act of literally taking a hammer to objects he doesn't like...forget the bozo. I couldn't watch him even if he gave glowing approval of my preferred devices.

I agree. But if I had to choose between Haze and Bogan, I'd have to go with Haze :confused:. Thankfully I have no use for either. :banana:
 

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At this point, it's like I've entered the checkout line at the grocery store with a storm approaching...
wondering if I forgot anything, while aware that panic buying has emptied many shelves and that my bank account reflects my participation in the rush. May as well check out, batten down the hatches on the home front, and hope for the best.
 

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Minus 30%.

Those AW batts you linked to aren't part of 30% off sale I don't believe. But even if they were, $9 is a lot of money for an old battery.

There are fresher button-top options on the market tested by mooch (not many, though). Of course, probably nothing more than 10-15A CDR, but high CDR isn't needed on a Provari. I doubt those AWs have an actual CDR of more than 10-15A.
 
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Yeah. I know. I was only thinking about my Provaris. AW was the only recommended batteries for those devices.

Recommended because there weren't many options and, IIRC, provape sold those batteries and told people that using any other battery would void the warranty. This was understandable at the time becuase they wanted to make sure people weren't using batteries with too low a CDR or using Trustfires, but many Provari owners, to this day, took that to mean any other battery is no good for a provari. That's just not true.

Yes, it's true, the offerings for button top 18650s 10A or higher are very few, but they are out there. I doubt anyone who uses a Provari needs more than 10-15A (actual), if that, maybe a few. But I'd be shocked if the AWs sold by Provape were more than 10-15A.
 
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    Back in the day, this was what ProVape had to say.

    "There are four (4) aspects of the battery and its use that need to be understood and factored in for this discussion. They are:

    1) The maximum continuous discharge rate specification of the cell
    2) The internal resistance of the cell
    3) The application of the cell
    4) The cell lithium ion chemistry

    The cell ratings are based on a continuous discharge. The application is intermittent duty, by its nature not continuous, so a cell can be intermittently be pushed somewhat harder than its continuous rating in this type of application. The Provari when supplying its maximum output power (14.5 Watts) will need to draw a maximum average current from the cell of 5.2 amps. While it is true that the pulse current can be as high as 9 amps, the duration of these pulse currents is less than 10 microseconds and is not as important as the total average current drawn.

    The 5.2 amps is when the cell is at end of charge and the output is adjusted to maximum power out, so it is an absolute worst case situation.

    This situation is important because any manufacturer of a high quality device needs to account for the worst case conditions his product will be exposed to in its application.

    When compared to the 6 amp continuous rating of the AW18350 cell it passes with some acceptable margin. The AW18490 and AW18650 have even better margins.

    BUT just as important, is the safer lithium ion chemistry and very low internal resistance of the AW cells. Other lithium-ion chemistry and higher internal resistance cells will not perform to the level of the AW cells and therefore reduce the overall experience when used. The cost of these other cells when comparing their performance and safety are just not worth it.

    There are cells that claim to have the same or better capacity as the AW cell BUT their internal resistance is inferior. If the cell has a higher internal resistance it will drop more voltage when current is taken out and as a result the ProVari will indicate it is at end of charge when it could have a significant amount of capacity remaining.

    What good is this capacity if it cannot be utilized by the ProVari? It is of NO use, so why use it?

    We will ONLY recommend cells that our engineering tests show will allow the ProVari to perform at its best."

    Not that I would buy these today, but just curious. :rolleyes:
     

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    I use MXJO button top 18500 "15A" batts in my Prov V2 and it works just fine. I don't know what the actual CDR is but I'd be surprised if it was more than 10A.

    I also bought some button top "converters" that I plan to try with some 18650s, but haven't used them yet..

    Unfortunately I found the 50mm batteries are just a tad too long for my provari minis creating an issue with completely screwing down the extension endcaps. The AW 18490 was 49mm. I bought nitecore 18490 button top that said they are 49.4mmm but they are 50mm, maybe my bottom springs are too stiff, others seem to be able to use the 50mm batteries.
     
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