Basic E-Cig User Branching Out

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OldManMerton

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Well that's good to know. I have always gotten 16-18 depending on smoketip or now e-cig. E-cig goes all the way up to 75... which sounds absurd.

E-cig also lets you select strength of flavor if you buy their really big bottles. They claim it impacts vaping heavily, but I didn't wanna mess around with that and risk getting too strong a flavor.
 

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Good place to start is in the ECF Library. Lots and lots of info you'll find helpful. I know I did!

a) I'd like a higher quality cigarette. I know why some people like separate atomizers, but I think I'm going to continue to steer clear of 3 part cigs for the sake of maintenance and component overload.

The main thing--I think--is pay attention to the standards out there. The screw threads these systems use have a few standards that let you be sure parts and pieces fit each other. Such as I started with 510. So I was able to try a tank system (which has a separate atomizer) but ended up moving back to the cartomizers. You'll want to watch which standard you jump into since you'll likely want to change things around in time. Or at least want a lot of sources for the parts and pieces.

I'm not familiar with the VGO and which threads we're talking about but others here I'm sure are.

b) I want to go away from pre-filled and test out filling my own carts

Funny as the name is, check out You Tube for the "condom method" (I know, I know). It can be a bit messy when you're first trying it but you get the hang of it fast. Easy way to fill. You can fill from the top but I just ain't that patient myself. :)

Here's a short video of it.

I've gotten to letting mine sit a while after doing the fill that way. Definitely fill two or three before bed so they'll be ready in the morning. Found if I tried using them right away, they were so wet, I often got juice in my mouth. Which is a good way to stun your taste buds and they go on strike. :)

c) battery life is nice, flavor is important, but vapor/throat hit probably is #1 for me. I want a lot of vapor and a moderate to heavy throat hit

Which system you use can affect that but it's more the juice you use. The two base liquids--PG and VG--tend to produce different amounts of vapor and throat hit. More VG tends to make more vapor, more PG is known for throat hit. So you may want to try a 50/50 mix (which is common) then adjust from there.

2) E-Cig's VGO kit provides 2 batteries as well as two atomizers, implying it is a 3 piece ecig. But they also provide empty VGO cartomizers, implying it can be either a 2 OR a 3 piece depending on your preference. Am I misunderstanding that?

No I think you got it right. The big difference is that the cartomizer has the atomizer built in.

Basically, more or less, all e-cigs are "three piece". Power, atomizer, liquid. Cartomizers combine the atomizer and liquid in the same unit making "two piece" (and guess you could say disposables combine all three making a "one piece").

3) Smoketip batteries had no limit to the length of your draw. However, the E-9s I got from e-cig have an automatic battery shutoff if you drew for more than a couple seconds. I got *used* to that, but would prefer not having that safety mechanism there. Does the VGO have it? I see no mention one way or the other about it. Not sure how common that is.

Well, you want some kind of safety measure. You're generating a lot of heat next to a lithium battery. Don't want to go too far.

A couple of seconds though? Sounds short.

6) E-Cig offers, of course, the following bases: PG, VG, PG400, a PG+VG mix, and a VG+PG400 mix. My first purchase there used the PG+VG mix an I was pretty satisfied, but would one of the other options be preferable if the high vape/high throat hit is important to me?

I don't get their labeling of base liquid mixes. Such as "PG400". That's new to me. I'm used to seeing mixes as percentages. Such as 50/50 for 50% PG, 50% VG. Not sure what they mean by their labels.

But since you mention both vapor and throat hit as important, you'll probably want a mix of the two since they seem to produce more of one or the other. And how much of each is "right" is very subjective.

I suggest "sample packs". Try different mixes out. See what you like.
 

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I'm also a little apprehensive about moving to manual since I still treat my ecig exactly like my cigs and smoke while typing/driving/walking the dog/etc, but it seems everyone believes its the best way to go.

I was a seriously "habitual" type of smoker and made the adjustment to manuals pretty easy. Though I confess once in a while I still start to take a "drag" and realize somethings Not Right.

I switched because the automatics have to have a "hole" down the middle to pick up on your inhale (so they can switch on). And if you're going to fill your own cartos, you might not always be able to ensure no juice drips into the battery. Which could kill the battery. No matter how careful I am, there's always some juice down around the threads or such. I very frequently have to use a tissue to dry a little droplet on the battery (or pass through) contacts when I switch cartos. Didn't want to risk having to buy new batteries all the time because I'm not super expert on carto filling. :)
 

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It's China. They vape poison just walking outside! But yeah, their XXXHigh is 48, but you can pay 11 extra bucks and customize up to 75.

Actually, be careful there. I checked out their site and they're selling DIY products also. Which can be ordered in very, very high levels of nicotine but are meant to be diluted. 75 mg would not be for vaping but, rather, mixing and diluting. A nic level that high could put you in the hospital. If you're lucky and don't end up in the morgue that is.

Ooof. I could smoke up to 2 packs a day and can't go over 24 mg liquids!
 

OldManMerton

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Wanna thank everyone again for their input. Got my gear several days ago but only just got my e-liquid today (thanks Customs). With the vials and the syringes and .... I actually feel more like a druggie than I did in my younger days and especially when I was just a regular smoker..haha.

That said, I think I'm really going to like this. Only been at it for a few minutes but I'm enjoying it. Need to figure out what voltage is best for me.

Pretty cool!
 

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I am by no means an expert here being a newbie myself, but for a good throat hit I think the nicotine level should be at least a 12 if not an 18 bare minimum. I have noticed the higher the level the better the hit. And I would definatly buy the juice over the prefilled carts to save on money and not have to refill so much. Hope I was at least a little help:)
 

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Thanks again to all who gave input.

I have been using my new E-Go twisteds for 3 or 4 weeks now.

I have a couple questions about the atomizers as I am not familiar with them.

1) Are certain flavors of liquid perhaps less "clean" than others? I have one device dedicated to my primary liquid (A clove liquid from E-cig dot com). I've changed the atomizer one it once before today whereas the other one which uses multiple liquids is still working just fine (and gets roughly equal use...maybe 60/40).

2) However, that one that I'd already changed once less than a week ago is already drawing with slight difficulty (feels slightly clogged versus the smooth draw) and when I put in a new atomizer it STILL wasn't drawing smoothly the way it used to. Are there reasons other than a spent atomizer that can mess with your draw?

Thank you.
 
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