Basic questions about e-cigarettes

[NameIt]

Hi all
I want to buy an e-cigarette, however I don't have much money to spend on this, so I went to DealExtreme and start searching ...

However during the seach became some questions ...
If I buy this one: $5.91 - Quit Smoking USB Rechargeable Electronic Cigarette with 10-Refills - Cigar Pipes and Cases
Should/Can I buy this $2.89 - EL-501 Refills Set for SKU 14561 E-Cigarette Pipe (10-Pack/Flavor Assorted) - Cigar Pipes and Cases and this $3.89 - Tobacco Tar Oil for Electronic Cigarette - Camel Taste (10ml) - Cigar Pipes and Cases ? They are compatible? Do I need anything else to smoke?

$7.30 - Quit Smoking USB Rechargeable Electronic Cigarette with 5-Refills - Cigar Pipes and Cases more $2.89 - EL-501 Refills Set for SKU 14561 E-Cigarette Pipe (10-Pack/Flavor Assorted) - Cigar Pipes and Cases more $3.89 - Tobacco Tar Oil for Electronic Cigarette - Camel Taste (10ml) - Cigar Pipes and Cases ... this pack are compatible?

and this one -> $7.91 - Quit Smoking USB Rechargeable Electronic Cigarette with 6-Refills - Cigar Pipes and Cases more $2.89 - EL-501 Refills Set for SKU 14561 E-Cigarette Pipe (10-Pack/Flavor Assorted) - Cigar Pipes and Cases more $3.89 - Tobacco Tar Oil for Electronic Cigarette - Camel Taste (10ml) - Cigar Pipes and Cases

Thank you

 

[dormouse]

No idea. Ask the company that is selling them.

Each cigarette seems to have an SKU listed on its page (an identification number) like the first one is SKU 29043
So no - refills for SKU 14561 Ecigarette would not match according to the way I read it

I think you should get a total of 5 posts or replies in New Members, wait an hour, then go ask in the Europe section of this forum. Perhaps they would know something reasonably priced and more durable and compatible that you could buy in Europe.

 

[JWebb]

Welcome, Nameit. I would go to the ECF library and read the "wonderful World of Vaping series", they tell you everything you need to know and learn about the types, brands, hardware etc. I would not buy a cheap kit from dealextreme, you may get turned off by the taste, or batteries always running low etc. Buy a good starter kit like the generic 510 or eGo or Riva and some flavors or samples of good e-juice and you will be off to a good start. You can look at the supplier forum here on ECF, with types like, litecigsusa.com. cignot.com, janty, and many others, good luck! I am sure that LibertyFlights.com may have faster shipping for you in Portugal from the UK and a great selection with the 20% off button in the left hand corner.

 

[NameIt]

Thank you for the opinions. If someone have anything to add are welcome

 

[NameIt]

anyone????

 

[Kent C]

Here's a good short summary for someone just starting:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...buying-using-electronic-cigarette-primer.html

 

[Chrissie]

Hello & welcome Nameit

Deal-extreme is cheap but not a good place to buy your e-cigs from. Plus they often take weeks to ship anything.

I going to give a shout to Aldo, a lovely Portuguese member of my own forum as well as a member here, I'm sure he will be more than happy ton help you

 

[AldoApache]

Boas NameIt!
I'm Aldo, the portuguese member that Chrissie talked about, I'm currently talking in english because I don't want to be rude here... I guess I won't be able to contact you via PM but you can always e-mail me and we will then be able to speak in Portuguese and maybe I am able to help you out with some advice etc

 

[Chrissie]

Aldo, you are a star & so thoughtful

 

[NameIt]

Thank you, I will try contact Aldo as soon as possible

 

[NameIt]

Just making another post to have 5 posts

 

[JC Okie]

Nameit, you will have to wait for about an hour after you have 5 posts because the site has to update. Just wait awhile then you will be able to PM AldoApache. Welcome to ECF.

 

[icigalot]

i dunno, it's 4am, i haven't read much yet, i just want to know... is it possible to just buy a "kit" and you're good to go? i don't want to deal with ordering refills.

something you just recharge when it needs it...? recommendations?

I WANT TO QUIT SMOKING

 

[bobsyeruncle]

If you're ordering a kit from China, try Heaven-Gifts or Eastmall.net.

If you just need something simple to get you started, a starter kit plus extra cartomizers is pretty straightforward.

If you want something that looks like a cigarette, consider the Volt from Smokeless Image. It's a KR808D-1 if you're looking for something similar from a different site. The DVP9 (Eastmall) is compatible, but I have no experience with it. It's always good to have 2 batteries you keep in regular rotation plus an extra as a backup. It's a good idea to have at least 1 manual battery in your arsenal. Another nice addition for your kit is a KR808D-1 PCC to ensure you always have charged batteries on hand. The downside with these kits is that you may find yourself charging batteries several times a day depending on how much you vape.

If you're ok with something bigger, try the Riva 510. It's about the size of a Sharpie marker, but the battery life is much better. You can get them from either Liberty-Flights.com or Eastmall.net. Get a package or two of Boge LR or SmokTech dual coil cartomizers to go with it.

When you're shopping for juice, try ordering a bunch of sampler packs to figure out what flavors you like. Also try ordering 18mg and 24mg strengths until you figure out how much nicotine you need.

You're better off in the long run learning to fill your own blank cartomizers with e-juice you buy separately. But, you could try Vapor4Life if you want to start with prefilled cartomizers. I know Heaven-gifts sells prefilled, but I don't think I can recommend them. Good luck.

 

[icigalot]

i just want to know... is it possible to just buy a "kit" and you're good to go? i don't want to deal with ordering refills.

 

[bobsyeruncle]

Yes, your kit will probably come with prefilled cartridges or cartomizers. And then you should be able to find extra prefilled cartomizers as I've mentioned in my previous post. Just make sure you order enough to last you for a little while. You might consider getting about 60 prefilled cartomizers on your first purchase in various flavors and maybe a couple of different strengths like 18mg and 24mg.


But, refilling cartomizers with your own juice really isn't much hassle and generally cheaper than prefilled.

 

[icigalot]

how about... something you just recharge when it needs it...?


get it? you keep missing the point of my original post

 

[Baldr]

The stuff you linked in your original post was $5.91 and $7.30 and such. Very, very cheap. But those aren't going to last long without buying more refills. And those are very small (cigarette sized) so the batteries aren't going to last very long.

it's very common, when people come here, that they think they want something that looks like a cigarette. On the forums, those are called "mini's", because they are small.

But not many people who use an e-cig or vaporizer for long are using mini's after the first few months or so. A lot of people try those and give up on vaporizers, because they had bad results.

I skipped those, after doing some research, and bought an ego T. I'll link one source, but this is a very common item, you can find it a lot of places.

https://www.cignot.com/product_p/kit-egt-all.htm

That, plus some extra fluid, will keep you going for awhile. Eventually, you *will* have to order more "stuff". Atomizers, cartomizers, batteries - everything will wear out eventually. And of course, if you're using it, you'll use up the juice and need to get more.

When I started, I bought a similar kit, (upgraded to the 1000 mah batteries), a box of cartomizers, 2 atomizers, a box of ego T tanks, a drip tip, and two bottles of fluid. Paid $125 from a brick-n-mortar near me.

And a week later, I bought more fluid, and an extra atomizer or two (for backups).

I've spent almost $250 in 3 weeks - but I also have a bunch of different fluids (some I haven't even tried yet), I have extra cartomizers (I'm not even using cartomizers), I have back ups of the atomizers/tanks that I am using. I have ego Mega parts (not using them - didn't have much luck with the Mega, so that was a waste.) The only thing I don't have a backup or two for is my charger. Two batteries, but only one charger, so if the charger dies, I have to make an emergency run to the local Vaporessence.

But out of that $250 or so I've spent, I've recovered most of that cost. I was smoking 3 packs of cigs a day, until I bought the eGo. Today, I smoked 3 cigs. Over the past week, I smoked less than 3 packs total. I'm not off of the cigs completely - but I'm very close. And since I haven't been needing to buy cigs (bought one carton since I got the ego) I've saved a lot of money. I think in a week, I'll be even on what I've spent vs what I've saved. But I'll have lots of vaping supplies built up, and I'll have either stopped smoking, or be very, very close. I doubt, from here out, that I'll ever smoke more than 5 or 10 a day, and I suspect that in a week or two, I'll be done completely.

There is a learning curve. No way around it - there just is. It's not as easy as buying a pack of cigs and lighting one up. And it doesn't taste the same - but most people consider that a bonus once they've been vaping awhile. (I'm not quite there yet - I still love the cigs.)

I'm worried that if you try to spend $10 on a "starter kit" that doesn't do you any good, that you won't ever give vaping a good shot. I think you have to spend at least $75 to $100 to get a decent kit and some fluid. But if you've been a smoker, and quit, then two cartons of cigs would have cost that much.

When I first bought my kit, I paid $125, and I didn't plan to spend another $125 right away. But I had such good results, I wanted to make sure I had backups, and I wanted to try more flavors to find one I really liked, so I did. And it's been worth it.

Good luck. And keep asking questions on the forum. People here are very helpful. That learning curve is a pain - but the forums will *always* find someone who will try to help.

 

[Michael Curry]

how about... something you just recharge when it needs it...?


get it? you keep missing the point of my original post

I think what is happening here is that you are missing the point of the answers.

The battery that makes it all work - yes, you can recharge that.

The cartridge or cartomizer is filled with a fluid that makes the vapor and contains the nicotine. It can either be refilled or replaced when it is empty.

 

[Baldr]

As I said, i was smoking 3 packs a day, maybe more, depending on the day. 2 cartons a week, easy.

Now, I mostly vape. I get up, I start vaping. Usually, my first cig is early afternoon - shortly after I eat lunch. Right after eating a meal is when I still have strong cravings for a real cig, and I've been moving off the cigs slowly, not forcing it. If I have a strong craving, I smoke.

I carry a box (empty cigar box) with me during the day that has a bottle of fluid, some empty cartomizers (mostly for emergency use - I don't use them) and my ego T set up. Once, maybe even twice, during the day I'll refill the ego tank. (Which is why I'm carrying fluid.) And I'll refill at home later, once or twice a day. Refilling is easy with the ego tank - pull it out, pop the "top" off, just fill it with a few drops. (10 maybe? I don't count, just watch not to overfill.) Pop the top back on, wipe it all down with a Kleenex or paper towel, shove the tank back into the atomizer, and it's done.

When I get home after work, I take my primary battery that I've been using, put it on the charger. I'll use my backup battery to vape for awhile, until the primary is charged. That might take an hour? Two? I don't pay a lot of attention, just go about my business. I don't ever leave a battery on the charger overnight, though.

When the primary is charged, I swap back, start using that again, and I put the backup battery on the charger. It doesn't take long to charge, since I haven't used it all that much.

Then I got to bed and repeat it all the next day.

One day I forgot to recharge my primary, and didn't even think about it until half way through work the next day. That made me worry that it wouldn't last until I got home, but it did. I got the 1000 mah batteries, and they have a lot of charge, so I'm sure that helped. I *should* have an extra charger and a car charger, but I don't.

Overall, refilling tanks and plugging in batteries to charge, I might spend 10 or 15 minutes total a day. Maybe not even much. Mostly it's a 30 second thing here (plug in the battery charger and connect a battery) and 1-2 minutes there (refill a tank.)