Batteries exploding??

[Altaire Versailles]

In the current vaping community, many of the off-brands and knockoff devices have had a notorious history of under-performing compared to the name brand items. Experienced vapors therefore recommend purchasing the name brand items (ie genuine Joytech, Vision, Boge or Smoktech cartomizers, etc) as opposed to brandless items which often fail prematurely or don't work correctly right out of the box.

We also recommend having backups for when our primary devices fail. There is nothing worse than realizing you don't have a working battery or a working juice delivery device and can't vape, opening the possibility to return to buying cigarettes.

If your knockoffs are working for you, you are a fortunate vapor.

Yeah the "knockoffs" have worked for me, they have features that the name brand versions dont have and theyre less than half the price and perform magnificently. I dont have a hang up about only supporting companies supposedly based in america either, if someone on Mars wants to make me a better product for cheaper, I'm buying it.

 

[Satava]

Also don't be fooled by any battery. I've seen aftermath of Ego batteries going critical. Top caps shooting through doors, holes burnt through desks while charging. There is no assurance with anything related to batteries ever. Just be safe and avoid the common mistakes.

Don't ever short a battery out.
Always store batteries in non conductive containers, and never allow their ends to touch while stored. Sides are ok.
Never charge batteries while you're not home.
Never charge batteries near things you don't want to risk setting on fire. A ceramic 12x12 tile is a good surface to place your charger on.
Bargain chargers will cost you more eventually, go with a trusted brand like Nitecore for instance.
Always let batteries rest for an hour after charging is complete.
Never drain a battery past 3.2v
Never attempt to reuse a battery that has ever overheated, is swelling, or where the case is damaged.

These rules apply to all Lithium based batteries; Cell Phones, Ipods, Laptops, Hybrid Cars, APVs, Egos, 510s, etc.

 

[Un-Loco]

It is odd to me how someone so concerned about battery safety does not choose the safest route and becomes flippant about the precautions people take in battery safety.

Furthermore, not realizing that you were using similar batteries in your previously owned mods you consider safe is slightly humorous.

I just hope you don't burn your Apartment Complex down with your $3.00 Mars manufactured charger and batteries =P

 

[tj99959]

They don't "explode" they forceably vent, as in release all the power in a short burst.

Stacking doubles the connections thus doubling the risk as shorting is the main issue. The new V2 has a stronger spring and new circuit protection.

Just make sure you are educated regarding stacking batteries or just use one.

Don't not get a Vamo based on "exploding" batteries. There are many Ego batteries (Youtube) that have exploded.

Just do the research or if you don't feel comfortable don't stack.

I stack 350's and use single 650's and to be honest, can't tell the difference.

Oh really!

Lithium Ion Battery Explosion - YouTube

Learn about proper battery safety & use, and you will most likely never have a problem.

Go ahead and do whatever someone says "they do" without ever having a problem, and you just might have a problem.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

In the current vaping community, many of the off-brands and knockoff devices have had a notorious history of under-performing compared to the name brand items. Experienced vapors therefore recommend purchasing the name brand items (ie genuine Joytech, Vision, Boge or Smoktech cartomizers, etc) as opposed to brandless items which often fail prematurely or don't work correctly right out of the box.

We also recommend having backups for when our primary devices fail. There is nothing worse than realizing you don't have a working battery or a working juice delivery device and can't vape, opening the possibility to return to buying cigarettes.

If your knockoffs are working for you, you are a fortunate vapor.

With my non profit vape prog we've distributed 263 non JoyTech eGo class PV Starter Kits. Failure rate of the batts is less than 1%/ 3 batts out of 526 batts. It wasn't a matter of luck but thorough research, testing and DD. ALL the brand names you have mentioned have had one dud or another.
SmokTech- love their cartos and hate their Vivi.
JoyTech eGo- eGo class should be 3.7 volts rather than 3.3 volt
SLB- love the Kgo
Boge= Boge Gate
Vision- love their Vivi Novas but hate their Stardusts and early Vivi versions
I will never be brand loyal and prefer to use whatever works best depending on the situation...the one area of knockoffs I would not venture into is Mod batteries. Have had my share of under performers and learned the hard way...fortunately, thanks to the Vets here, it was a mistake corrected in my early days.

 

[Baditude]

Oh really!

Lithium Ion Battery Explosion - YouTube
Learn about proper battery safety & use, and you will most likely never have a problem.

Go ahead and do whatever someone says "they do" without ever having a problem, and you just might have a problem.

That video was impressive, and scarey.

 

[stefania123]

What happens if you overcharge batteries?

 

[niczgreat]

SO I see people buying 50$ chargers, whats the point of that? Why not buy a 3$ charger instead?

Well you don't have to buy a $50.00 Pila. The Xtar Wp2 is excellent for around $20.00

There are two reasons to buy a quality charger.
1. The cheap chargers don't charge as fast, they are less safe and more prone to overcharge battery causing an explosion.

2. The more expensive Chargers use algorithms to charge. Basically they start with a trickle, go to full, than at the end they trickle charge to fully charge the battery. This is gentler on the battery. The end result is that your batteries will last much longer.

In a year you'll make back the cost of the charger in battery savings.

 

[niczgreat]

What happens if you overcharge batteries?

Bad things happen

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

What happens if you overcharge batteries?

6. How does overcharging damage batteries?

Overcharging a battery occurs when the total capacity removed has been replaced by recharging and the battery remains on charge. This overcharging creates excessive heat which can cause the battery plates within the cells to buckle and shed their active material. The battery will react to the overcharge by producing an excessive amount of hydrogen and oxygen. These gases are the result of the breakdown of the water molecules within the electrolyte. The water that has been displaced by overcharging can be replaced in a serviceable (non-sealed) battery, but, in the maintenance-free sealed batteries, permanent capacity loss will result.

 

[stefania123]

hmm.. i have left my batteries charging for 24 hours before- bad idea i guess?

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

hmm.. i have left my batteries charging for 24 hours before- bad idea i guess?

I had a charger fail me..thankfully I was home. I now charge my batts in an old ammo box OR you could have the charger on a timer but realize after the timer/ power goes off the charger's electronics will sap the battery charge.

 

[stefania123]

okay. i keep a pretty good eye on mine (except when i fall asleep lol) but i just got my Dad an e-cigar and he was asking me about this.. i better call him and tell him to make sure not to overcharge... i dont think ive ever even timed how long charging takes. um..

 

[tj99959]

These are cheap

lipo charging bags - Google Search

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

okay. i keep a pretty good eye on mine (except when i fall asleep lol) but i just got my Dad an e-cigar and he was asking me about this.. i better call him and tell him to make sure not to overcharge... i dont think ive ever even timed how long charging takes. um..

The chances of it happening are rare to slim but we/ I wouldn't want anyone to have any issues. Best to get a metal box and charge in there.

Congrats on converting your Dad

 

[Faylool]

Oops! Must take those babies out! Forgot them! Easy to to do. Thanks for thread!

 

[Muffinman92835]

you dont need to stack batteries i get great performance from single batteries but i can see a problem if u are sub ohm vaping but aside from that vamo with a single batt are great devices, just dont get get cheap batteries and your good

 

[Altaire Versailles]

It is odd to me how someone so concerned about battery safety does not choose the safest route and becomes flippant about the precautions people take in battery safety.

Furthermore, not realizing that you were using similar batteries in your previously owned mods you consider safe is slightly humorous.

I just hope you don't burn your Apartment Complex down with your $3.00 Mars manufactured charger and batteries =P

Martians are using all the newest and safest technologies, I should be golden, thanks for your concern :/ from what i heard intellicharge and panasonic were pretty reputable brands, I'm not buying dollar store equipment, I just dont see the objective in spending more to say I did it. I heard everyones opinions, and I made my own decision based folks' advice and my own intuition, I guess we'll just see what happens won't we?