battery found that fits the loong threads...and then the bad news.

[dc2k08]

so i found a battery that fits the loong totem cartridge. its the battery from the device known as e-mini cig from e-cig.com and other places. its a good fit though the threads are not as long.

if you screw it in in wont work though as i thought perhaps the inner terminals were not touching. did a little soldering to make sure they would and still no dice. dont know much about batteries, so im not sure where i am going wrong.

dont have any other materials to use though i hope to find a little copper wire. pulled some out of an old flex but it was too thin and awquard to use.

i think the reason i cant get it to work though is that loong spent a bit of money on his batteries to make them difficult to be swopped for others. if you notice there is a crossed groove that is unique their design. I also cant get a reading off these with a multi-meter in the same manner i am accustomed to with other types which also perplexes me. the charger says they are 4.7V though.

The graphic i did up below tries to show what i mean. dont have a good camera at the moment so i hope someone will understand and point me in the right direction. the top image represents the loong battery looking straight down at the terminal and threads, labeled as "new battery". the one below is the more common ones we are all used to seeing. hope it makes sense.

 

[Nazareth]

You're just bnot gettign the right connection- I used a SmartFixx battery, and it worked just fine- soldered the loong threads onto the Smartfixx battery. It could just be that you're not gettign enough draw to activate the atomizer too- try removing the endcap- see if that works to increase the draw. TB was also able ot get a Health cigg battery to work in the loong cartridges, but hte threads just didn't quite fit- had to hold it all together- so it's not the design of the htreads that makes it work, but rather the right connections

 

[dc2k08]

i can see how soldering the threads from a loong battery would work but this is slightly different as im managing to screw in the threads from an entirely different battery. i'll keep trying different things though, cant find any washers that are small enough, but if i could they would be perfect to decipher whether or not this battery will work. they need to be very thin also as there really isnt that much space to cover between the two inner terminals. what do you think of the loong terminals naz? can you think of any reason why they have that cross groove? air-flow perhaps? isnt it weird, i cant get a reading from them using a multi-meter?

 

[Nazareth]

probably just airflow- Yeah- the way I did it used the same threads- but TB managed ot use different threads and got it working- The actual connections are kinda complicated as they have a small rubber-like seperator which keeps the inner pice from contacting the outer threads which prevents shortign hte whole thing out or runnning down battery quickly-- I think probably what is happening is that the muddle piece on your battery isn't touching the middle piece in the cartridge- if you manage to make a spacer, you'll need to wrap the spacer in rubber or perhaps plastic to keep it from contacting the outer threads- liquid tape should do the trick- just put some liquid tape around hte edge of the spacer.

But really, if Ecigg's super mini cig- their newest one- is infact the same as a loong- then I think we can just pick a bunch of batteries up from E-Ci8gg pretty cheapely and have a pretty good deal going and not have to mess with tryign to make other batteries work with spacers & such

 

[dc2k08]

yeah true enough about e-cigs new model, but as i am yet to order or have it arrive, i want to mess around with this mini e-cig batt.

I think probably what is happening is that the muddle piece on your battery isn't touching the middle piece in the cartridge

i did add a piece of solder to bridge the gap and i know it was touching cause i had to squeeze them on. puffed like nervous teen on a first date but to no affect. liquid tape....now that's a new one on me but i should use some sort of insulator if i think the washer might touch the outer terminals. figured if i placed the washer precisely and screwed in tightly, it wouldnt budge. still no closer to finding said washer though, none at the hardware store, be trying a plumbers next or perhaps a model shop.

the mini e-cig battery is 4.2 volts by the way. crap mah though

 

[TropicalBob]

Here's all I found on the LoongTotem matchup: The battery for the Health mini e-cig, as Naz mentioned, can be pressed against an LT cartridge and that works. But it has to be held in place. No solution at all. The battery for a Janty Kissbox screws right into the LT cartridge -- but the middles don't touch. No solution at all. The Janty possibility intrigues me no end, since I can screw the LT onto the Janty USB cable end. If I could just make that setup work, I'd be home free.

 

[dc2k08]

you tried finding a small washer that would bridge the gap or used a bit of solder bob?

 

[TropicalBob]

I thought of solder and intended to try that. A washer would have to be super small, like for jewelry maybe. Haven't thought of that.

 

[dc2k08]

yeah i was raiding my mother's jewelry stash earlier today. not a thing..good lead though, might try a menders.

 

[Nazareth]

TB, find some copper sheeting & cut out crude washer with hole in it, but as I mentioned, you'll need to somehow keep it from contacting hte outer part of hte threads somehow as it will most likely either short hte unit or drain battery- not real sure hte mechanics of it all, but when I took apart my threads (after it broke ) I noticed the middle part was kept seperate from outer part by small rubber 'bushing-like' part to keep the two parts from connecting. This should work fine, but it would be loose parts unless you can solder them onto the battery- but it's quite delicate work- tyoo much for my funble-fingers lol

 

[Nazareth]

the mini e-cig battery is 4.2 volts by the way. crap mah though

Hmmm- shoulda produced something- wondering if though if soemthign was touching outer edge preventing proper connection? Either that or the loong cartridge needs higher Mah's?

If you have another battery that is smaller threads, try putting it into loong cart with one edge touchign the outer edge of cartridge, and keep movign it around until a good connect is made- see if htat works? When I was messing aroudn with mine, I took the middle part out of another perfectly good smartfxx battery thread tryign to make a spacer, ground it down, and got the thing working, but I really had to make sure everythign was aligned just right- if it wasn't, it wouldn't work- After this I got hte idea of just takign a loong thread (out of another perfectly good battery) and soldering it into smartfixx battery- this worked fine until I broke the htreads of hte loong My spacer before this experiement did work, but I couldn't figure out how I was goign to solder it into aa SnartFixx battery and still be able to charge it

 

[dc2k08]

ok, i got it working with a some copper wires i took from a flex. twisted them up and put one end in each hole and got it together. the drag was really difficult but i am restricting the air flow some what with the wire in the holes so i would prefer to test it with a copper washer or similar. try and locate one tomorrow. there should be a noticeable difference between a 4.2v and a 4.7v though anyway.

 

[Nazareth]

Ah- I hadn't htought of that- good idea- that definately avoids the contact issue in wrong places- you can pop battery cap off too to increase draw a bit- (It just glues back in- no worries.)

 

[dc2k08]

yeah, i havent done that yet. its a fairly secure cap. loong sure likes his rubber. think i'll continue my adventures tomorrow. gonna hit the hay.

 

[dc2k08]

went down to a jewelers today who was able to take care of my request. ended up with a small ring which he detached from a spare chain in his workshop. spent a little time on my unusual request finding the right size and refused all offers cash so i was only able to be very grateful. guess i know where i'll be going next time i need a piece which i don't often as i have stopped dressing in drag.

As it was custom sized, it fits perfectly with-out any need for soldering, i will therefor be able to swop it out to other batteries. It works sufficiently though you do have to suck like a ..... on a saturday night. also one of the batteries is broken, and as i mentioned before due to the smallness of these in the first place the mah is very low, even lower than the loong batteries which is pathethic at best. still i have me now a couple of back-ups in black so my black leather cod-piece wont clash at the parties...oops i've said too much.

 

[leaford]

I think you reached that point with the Saturday night bit.