Battery Life of ProVari V2

[comptechltd]

Hi all. I was all set to pick up a buzz pro here shortly until I heard of the release of the provari V2. I understand that the battery life is reduced quite a bit with dual coils and understand why. I currently use the stardust and absolutely love it on my mini Volcano at about 4.3 but as is to be expected the battery life kinda sucks.

I guess my main question is...all things being equal....assuming equal carto's be it dual coil or single SR or LR How would the battery life compare on a Buzz Pro with the 2 16340 vs. a Provari V2. with the 18650. (I would definately use the bigger battery). Is one significantly longer that the other??

Steve

 

[Slurp812]

Using the first thing I found on google for the 16340's, and Provari spec IMR batteries, I calculated:

2x 16340 3.6 v 880 mah hour L-ion batteries = 6.336 watt-hours
1x 18650 3.7 v 1600 mah hour IMR battery = 5.92 watt-hours

Plus you would have to factor in the regulation losses. The ProVari is 90-95%. I don't have any efficiency numbers on the Buzz Pro. Should be pretty close...

 

[Sicarius]

Also to consider is that the ProVari low voltage protection kicks in at 3.2V (not sure what the Buzz is) and this does affect the available maH that the battery has (AW 1600maH on 3A discharge hits 3.2V at around 1230maH). Not sure on how the pulsed current draw affects this and also that instead of 3A the pulsed amperage is more like 8-10A, but the principle remains the same.

 

[comptechltd]

Slurp812,
I get what you are saying. I do have some of the higher may 18650's either 2000 or 2200's. Can't remember off the top of my head. Basically you are saying they should be comparable? I've just heard that the buzz lasts quite a while on a charge.

 

[comptechltd]

Also to consider is that the ProVari low voltage protection kicks in at 3.2V (not sure what the Buzz is) and this does affect the available maH that the battery has (AW 1600maH on 3A discharge hits 3.2V at around 1230maH). Not sure on how the pulsed current draw affects this and also that instead of 3A the pulsed amperage is more like 8-10A, but the principle remains the same.

I know a bit about electronics but you totally lost me. Sorry to be a newb but what are you getting at?

 

[Sicarius]

In simple terms from above the ProVari will switch off after using the battery to 23% remaining capacity where the Buzz will carry on till the battery protection operates (around 2.75V).

Even with same capacity batteries the BP may therefore seem to outperform the PV (I have no idea how the BP operates so speculation on my part)

 

[comptechltd]

OK, now I see what you are saying. I do know the Buzz uses unprotected batteries, instead relying on the protection in the unit itself. Does this make a difference?

Again, I didn't mean to diss you at all earlier. I was just confused.

Steve

 

[rem700]

Isnt there also something about stacked batteries one discharges faster then the other leaving unused power in one while the other is already discharged?
The above watts comparison is two 880mahs against one 1600mah whats the difference if one bumps the ohms with the new AW IMR 18650 2000mah ?

 

[Slurp812]

I used the recommended IMR batteries. The L-ion may have a higher capacity, but the IMR batteries can supply the large current pulses to operate the regulator circuit. I also believe the ProVari circuit will be a bit more efficient. And the stacking batteries issue, all valid points. With the 2000 mah IMR, @ 3.7 volts it would be 7.4 watt-hours, so it would win. Too bad they don't make a VV mod like the provari with the 2650 battery! Me, Im good all day with the little 18490....

 

[comptechltd]

So all in all with the provari with the 2000 Mah 18650 batteries you think the provari would be pretty close to the buzz?

 

[st0nedpenguin]

I'd go ProVari with AW IMRs just to avoid stacking batteries. May be a little excessive but when I'm sticking the thing in my mouth I'm not taking any chances.

 

[Slurp812]

With 2000 mah batteries, I think it would last a bit longer. Assuming same wattage with each setup.

 

[Off Topic]

I'm running the IMR 18490 1100mah batts that came with the unit, I'm getting around 6 hours per battery. I'm not completely thrilled with the battery life, but I can live with it. How much more capacity do I get if I get the plate extension?

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Hi all. I was all set to pick up a buzz pro here shortly until I heard of the release of the provari V2. I understand that the battery life is reduced quite a bit with dual coils and understand why. I currently use the stardust and absolutely love it on my mini Volcano at about 4.3 but as is to be expected the battery life kinda sucks.

I guess my main question is...all things being equal....assuming equal carto's be it dual coil or single SR or LR How would the battery life compare on a Buzz Pro with the 2 16340 vs. a Provari V2. with the 18650. (I would definately use the bigger battery). Is one significantly longer that the other??

Steve

There is no comparison between the buzz pro and the provari. The provari wins in all areas--quality, safety, features. I will not stack batteries. Using AW IMR 1600mah batteries, I'm getting about 10 hours using 1.5ohm dc carto's. I vape moderately to heavy through out the day.

cheers,

 

[Stownz]

When vaping the exact same coil and juice in the same Odysseus, Buzz pro w/powerizers lasts close to the same time as the Provari with 18490. I picked up a used Buzz pro and bought some new powerizer batteries from them because of the huge battery life claimed... its hype.. nothing more.

 

[rem700]

I'm running the IMR 18490 1100mah batts that came with the unit, I'm getting around 6 hours per battery. I'm not completely thrilled with the battery life, but I can live with it. How much more capacity do I get if I get the plate extension?

AW IMR 18650s are available in 1600 and 2000mah which is 500-900mah more then what your useing now which is 1100mah.
So appx 2-3hrs more with the 1600mah and maybe 4-5hrs more with the 2000mah. To many variables to say perzactly.

I am getting appx 20hrs of use on 18490s and go thru about 3-3.5mls of juice in a 3.0ohm Fluxo at about 4V so the variables being ohms, volts, and amount of juice.
So am I a lightweight or medium vapor

 

[rem700]

mah is kinda like gallons of gas in a car saying you used 5 gallons per day means nothing, Did you drive 5 miles or 500miles.

 

[markfm]

I can tell you my actuals for a BP, if anyone else has them for a Provari. I run 6 - 7 ml of eliquid through (6.5 average), using a 2.5 ohm carto at about 4.5V, between battery swaps. This is consistent, over months of use.

 

[comptechltd]

Markfm,

How does that translate to hours of use?? What time frame do you see??

Thanks,

Steve

 

[markfm]

Pretty much all day. On a really heavy vape day, like when I just switched to a tank, boosted consumption to 9 ml/day for a little bit, I swapped batteries for the last couple of hours at night. 6 - 7 ml/day is pretty much my day-in, day-out rate (I can vape at work). Helping a buddy working on his camp, the batteries lasted until I got back home at 2 am the next morning -- I was vaping less frequently during the day, but a lot on the drive home.

I try to give information in ml, ohms, volts, because that kind of levels the field. I know that when I went from my earlier vaping, on KR808 and Riva fat batteries, switching to VV, I pretty much overnight doubled my daily consumption, from 3ml/day to 6

A person who vapes at about my volts and ohms can expect to run through as many ml as I do between battery changes. I know people who have stayed at about 3ml/day, and they report two days between battery changes. Me, I bumped consumption, only get one.

I like what I use a lot, but Provari is an awesome PV from everything I've heard, certainly solid for anyone wanting a well-engineered product.