Battery Questions

[Kimmiegrif]

thanks for your opinion. I am gonna wait for puresmoker to get it...ehmm...did you hear me Cash...wait for puresmoker to get it...lol

 

[Tumbleweed4829]

Like cell phone lithium batteries, your ellectronic cigarette battery should be placed on the charger whever possible. No need to worry about overcharging as the circutry in the charger stops charging the battery when the battery reports 4v -/+.7v back to charger.

Ok I am totally confused... If these batteries are like a cell phone battery then I should wait till it is totally dead (or close to it) to charge them, not just stick them in the charger whenever I want. I was told and by experience you should not charge your cell phone if it is not almost dead because it gets a "memory" of not having to keep a full charge. So I really don't get it.

 

[Somoney]

It's a brave new world people, The rules we all lived by in the past with Nickel based batteries do not apply in a Lithium world.

Lithium-ion battery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

" Li-ion cells must never be discharged below a certain voltage to avoid the possibility of irreversible damage. Therefore Li-ion battery systems are generally equipped with a circuit that shuts down the system when the battery is discharged below the predefined threshold. "

I really didn't want to get into a battery history debate but Ill keep it short.

Nickel Cadmium: Has Memory, must be fully discharged, or cycled regularly.
Nickel Hydride: No Memory, can be topped off, and/or cycled at will.
Lithium : No Memory, sensitive to heat, cannot be cycled, and degrades over time whether used or not.

 

[just4747]

I am having the same exact issues Tumbleweed..my 2 batteries for my DSE901b are about 2 weeks old and the past week they have been dying extremely fast. I've let them charge till the light turns green and also till WAY after the light turns green- for hours. No matter what, they both seem to die within less than a full hour of smoking when it's all added up. It sucks and I constantly need to be charging one. Every single time it happens, I'm in the middle of smoking along merrily, when all of a sudden the light starts doing the dying-battery blink and I'm just like "What the ****? Are you serious??" It clearly happens WAY too soon and I don't know what to do. Getting more batteries helps but it's not like you're gonna carry around 3 extra fricken long batteries that take up space in your pockets...it's too much to have to deal with on a day-to-day basis. I wish I knew if the Kissbox ones were any better but you have to buy one to find out :/

 

[leaford]

I have been searching and searching the threads because I know I saw this question/answer somewhere at sometime but I can't find it.

What do you do when your battery stays lite? I dropped it and ever since it stays lite. I have tried sucking/blowing in it...the light goes out for a minute and then comes back on. Anybody know if there is a fix or is it dead? ( I immediately unhooked it from the atomizer.)

Sounds like the pressure switch has gotten stuck. You can try poking a paperclip through the hole at the end GENTLY and try to push the pressure switch back into place.

 

[trog100]

heavy use will kill these batteries within two weeks.. they are too small and simply not up to the job they are being ask to do.. i have written this a thousand times.. it gets boring..

lithium technology is fragile technology.. a 130 mah battery being discharged at around 6 C all day and every will soon die..

buy new ones or send your old ones back if u have paid big money for extended guarantees..

we bin our 901 batteries every two weeks on average.. we are heavy users..

they lose their run time.. they also take less time to charge.. in essence with every recharge they become a smaller battery.. this follows an exponential curve.. the more they wear the faster they wear..

basically we are being sold a product that unless it its sold as a semi disposable item is not fit for the purpose its sold for.. there is nothing that can be done about this.. except know what is happening and why..

the rest is simply waffle.. light use okay.. heavy use not okay..

trog

 

[baalel]

Would a standard CR123 Lithium-Ion battery work with the generic 901 type atomisers with some jury-rigging and a manual switch?

 

[Tumbleweed4829]

I really didn't want to get into a battery history debate but Ill keep it short.

Nickel Cadmium: Has Memory, must be fully discharged, or cycled regularly.
Nickel Hydride: No Memory, can be topped off, and/or cycled at will.
Lithium : No Memory, sensitive to heat, cannot be cycled, and degrades over time whether used or not.

LOL Somoney...trust me I was not trying to start a debate...I feel you should only debate if you have knowledge of the subject...I don't; I was just going by what I've heard and you know how that goes. Thanks for explaining that to me, I did not know that the batteries changed in cell phones.

 

[Tumbleweed4829]

Thanks leaford! I'll have to remember that next time since I threw it away already.

 

[trog100]

add some more to your short list Somoney

lead acid.. rechargeable but big and heavy.. wont fit in a small smoking tube.. been around for years..

lithium-ion.. the ones we use.. rechargeable.. the ones in our e cigs.. wont really fit in a small smoking tube but we do it anyway..

lithium polymer.. rechargeable more durable but less capacity for a given size.. wont fit in a smoking tube..

there are more more but i wont add them..

i expect to see loads of "why dosnt my e cig battery work so well how can i make fix it"

its all been said before but it all goes off the front page never to be seen again..

trog

 

[trog100]

edit double post

 

[trog100]

Would a standard CR123 Lithium-Ion battery work with the generic 901 type atomisers with some jury-rigging and a manual switch?

yes it would with no problems..

trog