Batts on Amazon

[k5blazer]

So I just received 4 sets of ultrafire batts from amazon...The batts I ordered were 16340 880mah 3.6v. The batts I received were 16340 1200mah 3.6v. The package label says 880mah, they are labeled on the batts them self as 1200mah. They last about 20min in my BP, and will not take a charge in my ultrafire charger. I know the charger works just fine as I have 3.7v 880mah ultrafire on it right now and working fine. Question, are these batts not compatible with the BP. I guess I'm answering my own question by the fact that they don't seem to work at all. Any comments?

 

[5cardstud]

I've made that mistake too K5. I buy mine from notcigs now. It's cheaper and better in the end.

 

[k5blazer]

How does the mah rating work out. I see on the Notcigs site, powerizer is rated @ 650 mah, I have almost always had 880 mah, Notcigs at one point sold 880mah. Does the mah have anything to do with run time. I, like everyone else want the biggest bang for the buck. Same question about the volts. I've used both 3.6 and 3.7v. I guess I'm admitting being a dummy when it comes to this stuff. I buy batts, charge, vape, wear them out and buy more.

 

[Bovinia]

Blazer the difference between 3.6 and 3.7v doesn't matter...sounds to me like you just got ripped on the batts, or they sent the wrong ones. The mah (in theory) should give you an indication on how long they will last, the higher the longer. Mike did some testing and discovered that many companies just flat out lie about their mah rating.

I haven't used untrafires in ages, but I ordered some trustfire flame jacket 16340's from amazon a few months back and they work very well. They are just a teeny bit longer and fit tight, but I have the all metal end caps on my BPs so they are ok. The powerizers Mike sells are very long lasting batts, they tested very good for being rated at 650mah.

 

[zoiDman]

... Does the mah have anything to do with run time. I, like everyone else want the biggest bang for the buck. Same question about the volts. I've used both 3.6 and 3.7v. I guess I'm admitting being a dummy when it comes to this stuff. I buy batts, charge, vape, wear them out and buy more.

mAh is Run Time. mAh = Milliamps per Hour. The Bigger the mAh, the Longer the Battery lasts before needing to be Charged.

But Don't get to Hung Up on the mAh Numbers that you see in a Battery Description. Or what is Printed on the Side of a Battery. Many Battery OEM's/Sellers overinflate the mAh Numbers to make it sound like there Batter is Better than the Next Guy's

The 3.6 and 3.7v is the Nominal Voltage. A Freshly Charged 3.7v battery will come off the Charger at about 4.2v. And then slowly Drop until it needs to be Recharged, around 3.4v.

Anything that ends in "Fire" should be Avoided when thinking about putting it intoa e-Cigarette. They just aren't very good Batteries. And there is more Clones and Knock-Off out there then the Real Ones. A Lot More.

 

[5cardstud]

I've got three different kinds and for me the black/flame Trustfires have outlasted them all and last between charges better than the rest.

 

[908Tracy]

I'm like you k5, I just want to buy, vape, charge, repeat! The techie stuff gives me headaches. (numbers have never been my thing!!)

 

[k5blazer]

Hey thanks everybody for the replies. I can't believe I had a brain fart and didn't figure out mah I should know that, I think I did lol...
Also, I have been using some flame TF's from china (through amazon) with stellar run times. I went to order them again and they now charge shipping when before they were so inexpensive I couldn't believe the price, but they are the real deal...And yes to re-labeled fakes, plenty out there. I think I just got some according to how mah equates, these should run for days at 1200mah. I did manage more than 20min run time from them when I charged my new ultrafires on my trustfire charger. I got like 4-5hrs, that's not even acceptable at all. I think I'll either get the china TF's with the whopping 880mah, or from Buzz at the 650mah. I think 5C has the right idea to just avoid the headache and get them from Buzz. Faster shipping from Buzz, or a month from china, better service, and support from Buzz. And now with the china shipping, they are the same price as from Buzz(minus shipping cost). SOLD!!! Notcigs is better deal.

 

[zoiDman]

Here is what Cracks me up about Batteries...

Ultrafire BRC 18650 4,000mAh.

$8.53 UltraFire BRC 18650 3.7V "4000mAh" Protected Rechargeable Li-ion Batteries (2-Pack) 2-pack - with carrying case / 1740mAh actual capacity at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Wow... 4,000mAh! That's Cool. I could run one o those Puppies for 2 Days.

But then you Look a little Closer and notice that it says in the Description that the Actual mAh is 1740.

OK... I know the Rule of Thumb is to take any Battery that end in "Fire" and divide the mAh by 2 to get the Actual mAh. But this is Even Less.

LOL

 

[5cardstud]

Actually I've noticed there are a lot of battery sales from places like China that say anything to make a sale. That's why I always check U.S. Only when buying on Ebay.

 

[Bovinia]

These are the ones I am using, got 4 pairs last Nov. and they are still going strong. Amazon.com: TrustFire Protected 16340 880mAh 3.7V Rechargeable Li-Ion Batteries Battery (2-Pack): Camera & Photo

Zoid, I respectfully disagree with your statement about anything with "fire" on the end of the name

Blazer, if you decide to order the powerizers from Mike, they are great for the Buzz Pro but DO NOT use them in any other mod...they are not fully protected batts. They are safe for the BP with all of it's own built in protection.

 

[k5blazer]

These are the ones I am using, got 4 pairs last Nov. and they are still going strong. Amazon.com: TrustFire Protected 16340 880mAh 3.7V Rechargeable Li-Ion Batteries Battery (2-Pack): Camera & Photo

Zoid, I respectfully disagree with your statement about anything with "fire" on the end of the name

Blazer, if you decide to order the powerizers from Mike, they are great for the Buzz Pro but DO NOT use them in any other mod...they are not fully protected batts. They are safe for the BP with all of it's own built in protection.

Hmm, I see some similarities in our thinking Bov. I bought those exact batts, 4 sets this past November also...They have and still are the best batts I have ever had so far. I'm just discouraged to buy them again because now they want so much for shipping. IIRC the 4 sets cost a touch over $25 shipped from China with plastic batt boxes, now they will be that plus 4.49 ea set shipped. Still a semi fair price IF they are of the same quality...

zoiDman, don't hold out, what batts without ending in Fire do you use. Just curious. I've used both trust and ultrafires with no issues up until this last purchase, and I used powerizers all with good results.

 

[zoiDman]

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zoiDman, don't hold out, what batts without ending in Fire do you use. Just curious. I've used both trust and ultrafires with no issues up until this last purchase, and I used powerizers all with good results.

I have had Very Good Luck using AW IMR's and IC's.

 

[k5blazer]

I have had Very Good Luck using AW IMR's and IC's.

Thanks zoiDman. Maybe some day I'll give those a try...

 

[Bovinia]

I have had Very Good Luck using AW IMR's and IC's.

Yep, I know a lot of people swear by AW's too

Good luck whatever you decide, Blazer!

 

[5cardstud]

These are the ones I got. Same batteries but the shipping to the U S is free. TrustFire Protected 16340 880mAh 3.7V Rechargeable Li-Ion Batteries (2-Pack) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme They're about $4.00 cheaper with the free shipping.

I had some AW IMRs but the 550 mah was the thing I didn't like about them.