BE-112 (801) from Best Ecig

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eturf

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I have a number of 112 attys (used to be 7 now 6 since 1 died) and don't get good performance out of any of them. I guess I am the only one. I can use a new cart from JC (a hair longer than most 801 carts and work best in the thing), completely topped up, and get a few minutes decent vaping. After a couple minutes with a topped up cart I can get good throat hit with a couple of the attys just before it starts to taste burned. This is nothing like a 201 where I consistently get great throat hit and good taste (but with a hard draw and it clogs up easily) or an 801 as long as the 801 cart is fluffed up properly. What I am doing wrong?
 

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I have a number of 112 attys (used to be 7 now 6 since 1 died) and don't get good performance out of any of them. I guess I am the only one. I can use a new cart from JC (a hair longer than most 801 carts and work best in the thing), completely topped up, and get a few minutes decent vaping. After a couple minutes with a topped up cart I can get good throat hit with a couple of the attys just before it starts to taste burned. This is nothing like a 201 where I consistently get great throat hit and good taste (but with a hard draw and it clogs up easily) or an 801 as long as the 801 cart is fluffed up properly. What I am doing wrong?

The JC penstyle blank cartridges have very dense batting/wicking material. It is so dense, that if you don't use a syringe to fill them - but instead use only dripping to fill them - you will never get them filled more that a quarter of the way from the top downwards. The burning taste is likely from the batting material drying out and combusting. You can know for sure if the batting matterial has a sizable burnt divot in it upon inspection.

The other thing about the JC penstyle blanks is that they are the longer size. This works great with the njoy ncig, because the ncig's atomizer is one of the longest penstyle atomizers. But for shorter length penstyle atomizers, like the BE112, the shorter length cartridges work best. When the longer cartridges are used in the shorter atomizers, too much batting material is pressed up too tightly against the heating element - which is bound to cause at least some of the batting material to dry out quickly and combust.

The penstyle cartridges (pre-filled or blanks) from ruyan direct fit the BE112 well. However, they are a little short for the njoy ncig (the JC blanks work well with the ncig). Of course, the cartridges from bestecig fit the BE112 well too, which is expected since they are BE112 cartridges...

So my suggestion is to some cartridge other than the JC with your BE112. Preferbably a shorter one than the JC.
 

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So my suggestion is to some cartridge other than the JC with your BE112. Preferably a shorter one than the JC.

Thanks for the responses.

I have tried other carts including best and eastmall as well as tried various densities of handpacking the fluff in them. I always start with a full cart, which for me is typically 25-30 drops, with and without a straw mod and never let carts dry out.

After reading your post, though, I got out a Best prefilled cart (I have a ton of them since I am not particularly fond of marlboro) and vaped away for an hour with good throat hit and no metallic taste! It is not the cart or the atty, it is the juice I am using! I apologize to Best for maligning their attys!

JC VG juices are my favorite but I find them thick, in the two orders I have gotten from them anyway. I cannot use them in my 201s since it makes them way too hard to draw in a short time. So I reserve them for use in my 801s and 112s. It must be too thick to soak through the 112 screen quickly enough. Could have something to do with me vaping like a smokestack, too.

Thanks for your help!
 

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I've posted to this topic because apparently I don't have the privileges to start a new topic.

Apparently there is a change in the heating element design on my most recent batch of BE112 atomizers. The diameter of the heating element has been reduced.

Now, to explain, I've seen roughly two kinds of heating elements. One kind is thicker (slightly less in diameter than a paper clip) and the other is thinner (slightly less in diameter than dental floss). The thin kind is what is typically found in cartomizers. The thick kind is usually in all others.

Now the BE112 (801 penstyle clone) has the think cartomizer-style heating element. The basin of the atomizer has two holes for the old thick-sized heating element. Now, for the new heating element, they go around those holes with the thin element and wrap it in that hair-like material.

For me, this new design has resulted in a funny taste (of the hair burning, like on a cartomizer) and shorter atomizer life.

But maybe I don't understand if this new heating element is supposed to be an improvement? The thicker heating element seem to work better for me.

Does anyone have any comments about these two kinds of heating elements? Do other penstyle atomizers still use the thick element design? I can't use the BE112 anymore.
 

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I started vaping with a BE112 and BE112 PT. I bought 5 attys in April and still have 4 left and working well. They work in my Janty Stick too. I have cleaned them and they just keep on going. I am really impressed with them. The batteries, not so good, are too sensitive and dont work that well for me. IMO the attys are great for the price.
 

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How do the BE112's work with the Prodigy and Janty Stick? Also I already have a bunch of carts from Eastmall. Will they be a good fit?

I got the BE112 attys in last week and the Prodigy last Saturday.

I don't know about the Janty Stick, but I've found that the BE112 atty works great with the Prodigy and also the GG.

Good fit with no leaking and I've been using it just with dripping - no carts.
 

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As for the best ecig carts - they are hard plastic so you may not like them much. I like hard plastic so that's totally a matter of preference of course. I'm starting to move towards "fluval" filler material thanks to spikey who gave me a handful at the LI Vaper Meeting and I have old carts which I can stuff it in.

Well, I for one HATE the rubberised carts - they are much cheaper and the filling is stuck inside (you can't remove it and rinse it out unless you pull really hard and then it gets trashed). But the hard plastic carts are a ....* to find, so my question is: will the BE112 carts fit in a DSE801 atomiser? And do they sell blanks?
 
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