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Seems like every time I see a topic about regulated VV mods and someone asking what they should buy, the same 2 names keep popping up

Provari and MVP

The Provari costs on average $100 - $150 more than the MVP.....but does that make it a better PV?

In your opinion, whether you've owned either a Provari / MVP or haven't owned neither....which one offers the better bang for your buck ?
 

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I think for most users the MVP. I'm not saying it's a better device than the Provari, I just think that most of the users will get a pretty close experience/performance for a much lower price.

They're also devices from different categories, Innokin target the MVP for people that look for mid-end, while Provape market the Provari as an high-end device.

But honestly I think it all depends on your expectations and needs, for me the MVP is completely useless, and it's only because it has a square design, doesn't use 18650 battery and limited to 11w, but these "disadvantages" can easily be a huge advantage for somebody else.
 
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Eww... err... umm... they are both buck bangers, for different reasons.

For the cost/benefit ratio I don't think you can get much more for forty bucks (at 101vape) than what an MVP delivers. Battery included! Some people don't like that, but with a projected life span of two years chances are you will break it or be bored silly and move on long before the battery dies. Then you have that two day run time between charges. The MVP is using more advanced electronics than a standard 33 Hz PWM variable device. It will get you a better vape experience than a Twist or a Spinner, but not as good as a Provari.

All that cheap means one thing though - it is 100% non repairable. See Provari:

First, it's hard to kill one. Really hard to kill one. That display that a lot of people seem to hate? Yeah - the reason it's still in there is you can't kill it. Even if a Provari does need repair - it can actually be repaired. Reo is the only other PV I can think of that is USA made and repairable.

There is something to be said about it's performance on two points:

Remember what I said about cheapo PV's producing their output voltage at 33 Hz? The MVP is a lot better than that, but the Provari moves that frequency all the way up to 800 Hz. For the people who can taste that difference (I can) the Provari is worth it just based on the smoother vape you get from an 800 Hz device.

That, and the consistency of the voltage output. Most Provari owner's are of the opinion that the performance is remarkably consistent right through until the thing shuts down at low battery cutoff.

And you are paying for the quality of the parts. You might trash the threads on an MVP if you aren't careful - but on a Provari that isn't likely to happen.

They are both good APV's for different reasons. It all depends on what you can afford to spend.
 

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For those of us in the mid range mod world, the MVP gives us we want; looooong usage in between battery charges, VV and VW, capabilities, and a sturdy form factor. For about $50 you can get a really good device. The best feature the MVP offers is convenience. No extra batts to charge or swap out during the day, and a 510/ego connection. The MVP is easy to use and is comfy to carry. All in all it's a great option. Now if I ever go into the high end mods, a provari would be on the top of my wishlist!
 

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In your opinion, whether you've owned either a Provari / MVP or haven't owned neither....which one offers the better bang for your buck ?
Knowing what atomizer(s) you intend to use, and at what resistance(s)... may help to divide the two APVs more clearly - keep them both in the running - or, toss both out the window as unsuitable.

Neither are particularly suitable for low resistance, as they have neither the power or circuitry to support it. For example, most of my RBAs are built from 0.5Ω~1.0Ω, so... in a regulated APV, a DNA30 chipped device would be more appropriate.
I still occasionally use carto tanks in the 2.0Ω range... in this application, both device power and control profiles are near perfectly matched to resistance.
 

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Eww... err... umm... they are both buck bangers, for different reasons.

For the cost/benefit ratio I don't think you can get much more for forty bucks (at 101vape) than what an MVP delivers. Battery included! Some people don't like that, but with a projected life span of two years chances are you will break it or be bored silly and move on long before the battery dies. Then you have that two day run time between charges. The MVP is using more advanced electronics than a standard 33 Hz PWM variable device. It will get you a better vape experience than a Twist or a Spinner, but not as good as a Provari.

All that cheap means one thing though - it is 100% non repairable. See Provari:

First, it's hard to kill one. Really hard to kill one. That display that a lot of people seem to hate? Yeah - the reason it's still in there is you can't kill it. Even if a Provari does need repair - it can actually be repaired. Reo is the only other PV I can think of that is USA made and repairable.

There is something to be said about it's performance on two points:

Remember what I said about cheapo PV's producing their output voltage at 33 Hz? The MVP is a lot better than that, but the Provari moves that frequency all the way up to 800 Hz. For the people who can taste that difference (I can) the Provari is worth it just based on the smoother vape you get from an 800 Hz device.

That, and the consistency of the voltage output. Most Provari owner's are of the opinion that the performance is remarkably consistent right through until the thing shuts down at low battery cutoff.

And you are paying for the quality of the parts. You might trash the threads on an MVP if you aren't careful - but on a Provari that isn't likely to happen.

They are both good APV's for different reasons. It all depends on what you can afford to spend.

From someone awaiting the delivery of an MVP, this was a superific answer. Thank you!
 

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I have both...And for awhile I was a ProVari Skeptic.

The MVP is the best bang for your buck, hands down. It provides a very near ProVari Quality vape in a convenient all in one package that allows for nearly two days of vaping between charges and easy charging via a standard Micro USB wall charger. For around $40.00 street price it's very hard to find anything better.

As far as the ProVari goes, it's great for different reasons. The MVP is fantastic, but eventually will wear out. You can't replace the battery on it, and the components used in the construction of the MVP are designed to last for the duration of battery life and not much longer. If one had a guarantee that replacement MVP's would be available for years to come, then one might never need to get anything much more than this and could just get away with buying MVP's. But we know that's not always the case....

The ProVari has a slightly larger voltage range and phenomenal accuracy. But it also provides durability and reliability. The cost of a ProVari is definitely higher. But depending on your vaping preference, it may be the last mod you may ever need. Granted, it can't do high wattage vaping. But if you remain a vaper that vapes between 6 to 15 watts, you may never need to buy another mod.
 
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For $30-50 bucks, MVP is a great deal. Sure, its not very powerful, but it works well in it's range. Personally, I think the provari is a bit dated at this point. Yes, the voltage signal is much better than the 33.33hz chips we see in most devices. But only 15 watts? Its a little on the low end for advanced users these days. When the DNA devices actually start becoming available, there wont be much reason to get a provari anymore
 

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All the previous commentary I agree wholeheartedly. I'll speak for myself...

I own an MVP1 and three Provari 2.0. Both are great devices for what they are. Both can be considered the best bang for your buck, it just depends upon how much you can reasonably spend and your personal tastes.

Nothing compares to the MVP's battery life. I get nearly 3 days on a single charge. I don't use the pass through option, but its nice to know its there. I charged my cell phone with it once just to see if it works - it does, but nearly drained the MVP dead.

Despite its rather odd box shape, it is still lightweight and about the size of a pack of cigarettes - still a pocket-friendly device for out-and-about. It's not as comfortable to hold as the Provari, which feels "just right" for me with its tube shape and heftiness denoting to me a feeling of a quality tool.

Compared to other VV mods that I own, its vape is smoother than those (higher frequency PWM), nearly as good as the Provari's. However, unlike the Provari whose last puff is as good as the first, the MVP's output sputters toward the end of battery charge, much like a mechanical mod.

The MVP has a notorious issue with a loose center pin (reported by many others); I have to adjust my MVP's center pin at least once a week if I change toppers. It's a well built device with decent attention to detail. I've never dropped my MVP, but I'd worry that it may not survive a 3 foot drop onto concrete or tile.

I realize that this device will only have around a 2 year life expectancy for better or for worse. It will one day be laid to rest permanently. Would I buy a replacement? Probably not, as I have 3 Provari's.
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It should be no surprise to anyone on ECF that I love the Provari. The ergonomic quality feel in my hand suits me perfectly, it feels like a part of my hand. It is perfectly balanced, has a great surface texture, and button placement. Quality workmanship & attention to detail. As people have said, the threads are like butter. No one can deny this is a quality tool.

The smooth vapor experience of the 800Hz PWM frequency has spoiled me. I realize not everyone experiences it, but I do and appreciate it. The last puff is truly as good as the first. It really gives me an extemely enjoyable vaping experience, better than anything else I've used.

I've never had a single problem with any of my Provari's. They work every time I press the button. No delay or stutter. One of the three will not fire a 1.1 ohm microcoil in my Kayfun, but I don't expect it to. The other two will. I have accidentally dropped my Provari's multiple times onto the driveway when getting out of my car, after forgetting it was lying on my lap while driving. No sweat, I check the pyrex glass tanks on the Provari, but I already know the Provari won't miss a beat.

I'm just a typical average vaper. I don't do sub ohm even on my Silver Bullet mechanical mod, so I don't need my the MVP or Provari's to do that. I rarely vape over 4.5 volts, so I don't need a 15 - 30 watt high voltage DNA mod. I don't need variable wattage; I had it on a Smoktech Mini ZMax but never cared for it - I ended up giving it to my daughter. I only need a dependable, reliable VV battery device to power a Kayfun and cartotank. Both the MVP and the Provari's do this superbly.

I just turned 60 years old and I fully expect my Provari's to last the rest of my life. Should one falter, I am comforted to know that I can get it fixed for life for a reasonable cost and have it back in my collection in a matter of days. I don't need another mod. I have 3 Provari's.
 
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I have both...And for awhile I was a ProVari Skeptic.

The MVP is the best bang for your buck, hands down. It provides a very near ProVari Quality vape in a convenient all in one package that allows for nearly two days of vaping between charges and easy charging via a standard Micro USB wall charger. For around $40.00 street price it's very hard to find anything better.

As far as the ProVari goes, it's great for different reasons. The MVP is fantastic, but eventually will wear out. You can't replace the battery on it, and the components used in the construction of the MVP are designed to last for the duration of battery life and not much longer. If one had a guarantee that replacement MVP's would be available for years to come, then one might never need to get anything as much and could just get away with buying MVP's. But we know that's not always the case....

The ProVari has a slightly larger voltage range and phenomenal accuracy. But it also provides durability and reliability. The cost of a ProVari is definitely higher. But depending on your vaping preference, it may be the last mod you may ever need. Granted, it can't do high wattage vaping. But if you remain a vaper that vapes between 6 to 15 watts, you may never need to buy another mod.

Well, I was going to post something very similar (but probably not quite as well written). If I could go back in time to when I first started vaping but still knowing what I know now.... I would have bought an MVP first......then a Silver Bullet....then a Provari. Then another Silver Bullet and start saving for a second Provari ;)
 

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I have owned both, provari hands down is a better device. Build quality is much better with the provari, doesn't have a lipo battery, better range. My MVPs button broke off after a couple months and felt like it wasn't putting out the correct voltage even when fully charged.

Although I find it hard to recommend either though. Vv is old tech and you would be wiser investing your money in a VW device.

Now this totally depends on what you are running on top of your mod. If you are a carto or clearo user you will likely see no real world difference in your vape quality. If you are rebuilding I wouldn't recommend either, and instead go VW or mech.
 

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Interesting thread, I love my MVP2 and wrote off the Provari as overly expensive for not enough benefit but I'm starting to change my mind :)

Why Provari?

Interesting comments from PBusardo, the popular YouTube e-cig reviewer. When asked if he could choose only one mod and one juice attachment, what would they be. He pulled out a Provari and a Kayfun. He has been seen vaping this combination at the last few vape bashes. For someone who has his pick over any mod, this speaks volumes to me.

PBusardo and miniProvari.jpg
 
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Seems like every time I see a topic about regulated VV Mods and someone asking what they should buy, the same 2 names keep popping up

Provari and MVP

The Provari costs on average $100 - $150 more than the MVP.....but does that make it a better PV?

In your opinion, whether you've owned either a Provari / MVP or haven't owned neither....which one offers the better bang for your buck ?

The Sigelei 20W.

Better than both, and cheaper too.
 

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Interesting comments from PBusardo, the popular YouTube e-cig reviewer. When asked if he could choose only one mod and one juice attachment, what would they be. He pulled out a Provari and a Kayfun. He has been seen vaping this combination at the last few vape bashes. For someone who has his pick over any mod, this speaks volumes to me.

"With great Youtube power, come great offer to your mailbox" ;]
 

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"With great Youtube power, come great offer to your mailbox" ;]
I just did a quick listen to his V2 standard-size Provari (satin silver) review, and he didn't say if he paid for it or Provape gave it to him for the review. However, he purchased his black Mini that he uses at the vape meets with his own money.
 

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I was (kinda) joking, I think PB understand that his reputation is more important for his success, I don't think we would suggest on something he don't believe in, I just don't take too seriously known figures that use something really often and talk about that in public all the time, usually it's sponsored.

My only problem with Provape is the lack of upgrades, I do expect an high-end product (specially when it's the only product of the brand) to get *some* updates once in a while.
 
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