Best battery? What is a mod?

[Wardeagle100]

I bought a start up kit from the local store. it came with 2 650 mah batteries. My buddy has a battery that does so much more. It is a 950 mah I think. It lights up different colors, you can change the voltage, it has a "toke" counter and probably has a few more bells and whistles.

I want something like this. I am not to concerned with the top but would like a bigger, better battery and would like to know what you guys suggest? I do not want a HUGE battery, I want to be able to fit it in my pocket while still lasting me all day. An upgrade is what I am looking for.

I know that modding can't be discussed in this forum but could someone enlighten me as to what that is?

Any suggestions/info would be greatly appreciated!!!

 

[Baditude]

Basically, the batteries that we use are a class of batteries known as Lithium Ion batteries. In vaping, we use the rechargeable ego class and the replaceable rechargeable class that are used in mods, or advance personal vaporizers (APVs).

I'm pretty certain the battery that you have is an ego battery, a set single voltage model. Your friend has a more sophisticated ego battery that has a regulator to change the voltage setting and also has an LCD display to provide additional information.

The mAh of a battery is an estimation of how long a battery can be expected to be used between charges. 100 mAh = 1 hour. So a 650 mAh rating means a battery should last 6.5 hours of average usage. 950 mAh should last 9.5 hours.

Someone more familiar with what your friend has will be along to give you their recommendation.
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A mod, or APV, is essentially a battery holder for replaceable rechargeable batteries. These are generally speaking more durable devices than an ego battery, and are considered more favorable to those vapors who prefer buying less expensive replaceable batteries as opposed to the more expensive ego batteries that have a shorter expected life expectancy.

The Provari is a high end mod that uses replaceable rechargeable batteries.

 

[Wardeagle100]

Thanks for the VERY helpful information!! I already have AA rechargeable batteries so maybe that would be the way to go.

Looking forward to the battery/mod suggestions!

 

[WarHawk-AVG]

Welcome, Might I recomend you head over to the library, 6 part intro to personal vapers and e-cigs and TONS of useful information that will answer ALOT of questions

The ECF Library

I currently have a Vamo V3, and a "vendor specific" version of the evic easy head battery assembly called the Tornado RCS (that does USB passthru and charging) The Vamo is the "economical" APV...it's inexpensive, and does everything else the more expensive version do...it would be like comparing a VW bug to a Porche 911 if you compared it to a Provari

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...05-yet-another-vamo-v3-thread-one-review.html

Honestly the eGo is the "workhorse" everyone should have one "just because (or as a spare)" they really are that prevalent and they work well (yes they do seem to have some issues but are easily fixable) You can get them from teeny palmable mini's up to huge extra long running powerhouses

fasttech is a Chinese wholesaler (that currently seems to be having issues with shipping due to changes in regulations and holidays and getting overwhelmed with orders) but they have TONS of eGo batteries with bunches of options

The eGo Twist is what they call a VV or variable voltage...it allows you to manually change the voltage from the battery to the head to "dial in" the perfect vape power...you can find a link below

http://www.fasttech.com/products/1411/10004043/1445401
That is the eGo 1300mAh Twist..you can expect maybe 2x the power of the 650 (depending on how much you vape or not) the little arrow next to the "buy" button will let you go thru the entire eGo lineup they carry...and they carry ALOT!

As I said...go thru the library first though

 

[Thrasher]

I already have AA rechargeable batteries so maybe that would be the way to go.

EEEEERK! hold it, rechargable batteries like aa are not used in our mods we use very powerful batteries made especially for what we need them to do. playing with just any battery will lead to serious trouble. I suggest for the first mod something like the vamo, sid, zmax or countless others listed here in the APV subforum, with the vamo coming in around 50 bucks including batteries and a charger.

 

[WarHawk-AVG]

Thanks for the VERY helpful information!! I already have AA rechargeable batteries so maybe that would be the way to go.

Looking forward to the battery/mod suggestions!

AA NiCd or NiMH batteries are not powerful enough (unless you stack them) to really run the volts/amps (watts) to run a vaping rig and or have the power density to push it for long...this is why Li Ion batteries are what allowed personal sized vaping rigs to be able to come into existence

not saying you can't use them however
http://puckecig.com/2011/06/how-to-build-the-puck-e-cig-battery-mod-part-1/
http://puckecig.com/2013/02/the-puck-ii-ecig-mod/

 

[Wardeagle100]

EEEEERK! hold it, rechargable batteries like aa are not used in our mods we use very powerful batteries made especially for what we need them to do. playing with just any battery will lead to serious trouble..

Haha thanks for catching that. I might have ruined all of my rechargeable AA's!

 

[leex1]

As for mods you can put in your pocket and will last you all day, either a bigger batt eGo (1000mah), or Innokin MVP.

The MVP is 2600mah and should definitely last you more then a day. It's much more comfortable when in the pockets imo then something like a Vamo, or tube PVs.

I got a 1000mah eGo as well and it doesn't last me all day as I vape all day while at work and home. But the MVP has been lasting me all day without ever going below 3.7v. So depending on how much you vape throughout the day, I'd say go with either one of these (or both, eGo as a spare) for comfortability in pockets and battery life.

 

[miken1010]

I started w/ an ego and ran into the same issue. If u want fancy but affordable EVICs are great if u want simple and go to k100 sentinel s are great beginner mods that telescope allowing you to use different batteries

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[WarHawk-AVG]

You wouldn't have "ruined em" you just wouldn't have vaped..hah

Most rechargeables run 1.2-1.4vdc at full charge, Li Ions run 4.2vdc at full charge...there ARE special requirements and treatments of Li Ion's over those other too to take into consideration...they are NOT NiCD or NiMH

How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries - Battery University
Charging Lithium-Ion Batteries

Lithium-ion Safety Concerns – Battery University

 

[oldjoe]

Foe everyday use, the Winder-Spinner are available in 1300mah, have adjustable Voltage and the ones I've been using are very reliable.
Tye next move up is the "Mod" that will offer VV/VW and replaceable batteries.

 

[Mitey F]

The mAh of a battery is an estimation of how long a battery can be expected to be used between charges. 100 mAh = 1 hour. So a 650 mAh rating means a battery should last 6.5 hours of average usage. 950 mAh should last 9.5 hours.

You're close... but not quite close enough. mAh is a measure of how long a battery can discharge at a rate of 1 amp (mA*h, hence mAh). Your math is a bit off too. 100 mAh means it can discharge 100 mA for one hour, which means it can discharge 1 amp for 1/10 of an hour (6 minutes... not one hour). There are 1000 mA in 1 amp, NOT 100. To say a 650 mAh battery "will last 6.5 hours of average usage" is both presumptuous and incorrect. It depends on what you consider "average", as well as the resistance of the atomizer, the length of puff you take etc.

 

[Baditude]

You're close... but not quite close enough. mAh is a measure of how long a battery can discharge at a rate of 1 amp (mA*h, hence mAh). Your math is a bit off too. 100 mAh means it can discharge 100 mA for one hour, which means it can discharge 1 amp for 1/10 of an hour (6 minutes... not one hour). There are 1000 mA in 1 amp, NOT 100. To say a 650 mAh battery "will last 6.5 hours of average usage" is both presumptuous and incorrect. It depends on what you consider "average", as well as the resistance of the atomizer, the length of puff you take etc.

I won't disagree with anything you said. I was speaking in general terms to a novice in layman terms.

The whole "mAh rating" system is a farce, anyway. A vendor can list any mAh rating they wish, there's no standard in the battery industry for this rating as far as marketing/advertising goes. Many lesser battery manufacturer/wholesalers inflate their battery's mAh rating to set their product apart from the better quality batteries to spur sales. Buying a battery soley because it has a better mAh rating is only 1/4 of the story of determining if it is a better battery over another. Name brand reputation, actual battery chemistry, and specific tested specs are more important.

 

[WarHawk-AVG]

You're close... but not quite close enough. mAh is a measure of how long a battery can discharge at a rate of 1 amp (mA*h, hence mAh). Your math is a bit off too. 100 mAh means it can discharge 100 mA for one hour, which means it can discharge 1 amp for 1/10 of an hour (6 minutes... not one hour). There are 1000 mA in 1 amp, NOT 100. To say a 650 mAh battery "will last 6.5 hours of average usage" is both presumptuous and incorrect. It depends on what you consider "average", as well as the resistance of the atomizer, the length of puff you take etc.

I think bad is well aware of the math

Thanks though...some might not be aware

Do the math on a 5 second vape at 4.0vdc and a 2.2Ω head

 

[Mitey F]

Just correcting some math... it probably wouldn't matter really, but bad math (especially by a full order of magnitude) just screams to my OCD side

 

[WarHawk-AVG]

Just correcting some math... it probably wouldn't matter really, but bad math (especially by a full order of magnitude) just screams to my OCD side

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