Best cartomizer ohm and battery voltage combination for warm vape?

[vangroover]

I recently posted a somewhat similar question recently, so please bear with me...

I've decided to go the cartomizer route for a while to see how I like that. I've got a Vamo V2 on the way and I'm wondering what ohm level I should be getting my carts in and what voltage to go with on the Vamo, if I'm looking to get a warmer vape.

I understand (starting to, at least) that there are recommended ranges for whatever ohms you're using (and I've seen the chart), but I'm curious as to what you guys think would be a good range/combo of ohm/volts for a warm vape.

I've also been lead to understand that dual coil cartos will help achieve a warmer vape. Is this correct?

Finally, not sure if I should have posted this elsewhere... I still feel like a "new member" so that's why I posted here.

As always, thanks in advance for your guidance. I really appreciate it.

 

[Ryedan]

I use Boge cartos on Lava Tubes or eGo Twists/Spinners. These things are very forgiving on power applied as long as you keep the coil wet. I suggest you try a 2 to 2.5 ohm carto to start. Pick a voltage from the chart in the safe range and vape that. Increase volts until you get the vape you want. Check the watts for that combination of ohm and volts and set voltage with different ohm cartos so the watts remain about the same. In the end this is all about personal preference and setting up the carto properly. You will also find that your preferred wattage will differ with juice selection.

I can't help with dual coils because I have never used them.

 

[AlanWoltemath]

i vape 3ohm boge cartos at 11.5 watts, gives a slightly warm vape with clouds of vapor. I use it on my itaste svd, also i have used it on my vamo v2 at the same wattage and it is awesome. I justed switched to using cartos from using protanks and have fallen in love with vaping all over again.

 

[player one]

I'm quite new to this as well but so far my favorite carto is the boge standard resistance. I ususally vape at around 4.5 - 4.8 volts on my zmax v3. These cartos are about 2.8 ohms. I've tried the ikenvape platinum but I found that I get better flavor with the boges.

 

[vangroover]

Surprised to hear your view on the Ikenvape, player one, given all the hype those seem to be getting. I haven't tried either Boge or Ikenvape, so I have no idea. I know the Boges are a lot easier to get a hold of though, lol! I'll probably get a few packs and test them out - once I get a better idea of what ohm I should try out to get that magical warm vape, that is...

 

[zapped]

I love my Smoktech 3.0 ohm pre-punched 2-hole flanged cartos @ 5.2 volts with an 18650 battery.

I typically get 2-3 weeks off each carto with Alien Visions Hype @ 10/90 pg/vg and Im a heavy vaper, consuming 6-12ml a day.

 

[player one]

Surprised to hear your view on the Ikenvape, player one, given all the hype those seem to be getting. I haven't tried either Boge or Ikenvape, so I have no idea. I know the Boges are a lot easier to get a hold of though, lol! I'll probably get a few packs and test them out - once I get a better idea of what ohm I should try out to get that magical warm vape, that is...

I was surprised myself lol. From the reviews I read, I was sure I was going to like it. But, I've tried 2 of them with 2 different juices and had the same result. I replaced them with boges and I was happy again.

 

[sawlight]

I'm a fan of the Ikenvape carto's, but like everything, taste is subjective!
Seeing as you have VV, take the resistance of the carto and add 2, this will set you around 8watts and adjust from there for taste. Most cartos I've used don't care for, or last long above 12watts. They burn out fast and taste burnt to me quickly with that much heat IMO. YMMV, but that's been my experience.

 

[vangroover]

I'm a fan of the Ikenvape carto's, but like everything, taste is subjective!
Seeing as you have VV, take the resistance of the carto and add 2, this will set you around 8watts and adjust from there for taste. Most cartos I've used don't care for, or last long above 12watts. They burn out fast and taste burnt to me quickly with that much heat IMO. YMMV, but that's been my experience.

Can you explain that calculation to me? It's a bit late and I'm a bit slow... Wouldn't the resistance of the carto have to be 6 for you to add 2 and get 8? There's something obvious I'm not getting, I'm sure.

 

[player one]

Add 2 volts not watts. My boges come out to about 2.8 ohms. I usually vape at around 4.8 volts. If you look at the vaping power chart, that setting equals to about 8 watts.

 

[sawlight]

Add 2 volts not watts. My boges come out to about 2.8 ohms. I usually vape at around 4.8 volts. If you look at the vaping power chart, that setting equals to about 8 watts.

Can you explain that calculation to me? It's a bit late and I'm a bit slow... Wouldn't the resistance of the carto have to be 6 for you to add 2 and get 8? There's something obvious I'm not getting, I'm sure.

What player one said, add 2 to the resistance of the cartomizer to get your voltage, this keeps you around 8 watts most times. Examples:
1.5 ohm carto, add 2 this is 3.5V and you get 8.16666 watts
1.8 ohm carto add 2 this is 3.8V and you get 8.0222 watts
2 ohm carto add 2 this is 4V and you get 8 watts
2.5 ohm carto add 2 this is 4.5V and you get 8.09999 watts
3 ohm carto add 2 this is 5V and you get 8.33333 watts

It's not exactly perfect, but keeps you very close, as you can see. It's an easy starting point that you can tweak for taste from there.
I hope that helps.

 

[hobbes4]

I switched from Boge to Kanger horizontal carts. Flavor is subjective but i can say that they are much quieter (almost silent) than any other vertical cart i have used before. Since the coil is flat across the bottom i can go longer before it needs to be filled, less chance of burning the filler/dry hits, and i don't get any leaking out of the 510 connecter end when topping off. Also, the quality and consistency has been great so far, not one single DOA cart.

 

[vangroover]

What player one said, add 2 to the resistance of the cartomizer to get your voltage, this keeps you around 8 watts most times. Examples:
1.5 ohm carto, add 2 this is 3.5V and you get 8.16666 watts
1.8 ohm carto add 2 this is 3.8V and you get 8.0222 watts
2 ohm carto add 2 this is 4V and you get 8 watts
2.5 ohm carto add 2 this is 4.5V and you get 8.09999 watts
3 ohm carto add 2 this is 5V and you get 8.33333 watts

It's not exactly perfect, but keeps you very close, as you can see. It's an easy starting point that you can tweak for taste from there.
I hope that helps.

Thanks for that.

So will a lower resistance give a warmer vape (my quest!) or is it really just about the wattage, in which case I guess ohms don't really matter as long as you match it to a voltage in the appropriate range? Still somewhat confused...

 

[sawlight]

Thanks for that.

So will a lower resistance give a warmer vape (my quest!) or is it really just about the wattage, in which case I guess ohms don't really matter as long as you match it to a voltage in the appropriate range? Still somewhat confused...

The main reason for the lower ohm cartos was to get more out of the batteries we had at the time. Used to be we had just 3.7v to work with, then they started stacking batteries to get 6 and 7.2v and had to go to much higher ohm cartos.
I use a Provari and like using 2.5ohm cartos between 4.5-4.8v, this is my "happy place". For a warmer vape you can get more coils ( a dual coil cartomizer) which will have more heating area, you can turn up the voltage, which increases the wattage and you can vary the PG and VG in the juice to increase the throat hit. All of this things can vary how warm the vape is, how much throat hit you get and how much vapor you produce.
Most people like to vape around 8watts, some like it at 6watts, some 10watts then you get the guys into the RBA's building sub-ohm coils and vaping at 32 plus watts! I can't imagine juice tasting good that hot, but what do I know? Just know the more the juice is burning, the shorter your cartos will last!
It's a lot to try and take in all at once, try upping the voltage and see if you like the taste, there's no real hard and fast rule for any of this. This is where "taste is subjective" comes from. I don't like RY4, doesn't mean it's bad, a buddy of mine loves it. I like a hard throat hit, my buddy likes a fog machine, but doesn't like a heavy throat hit. Who's wrong? No one, I like what I like, he likes what he likes, everybody is happy. We will try and guide you as best we can, but at the end of the day all we are doing is making suggestions that may or may not work for you. Vaping isn't like going and buying a pack of smokes, you smoke the same thing for years and all is fine. With vaping your tastes will change and continually evolve, most people want to start with something that tastes like a real analog (there is no such thing BTW!) but then change to something very different in a month or so, then start mixing and matching as time goes on. Go around and ask members what their all day vape is, most wont be able to answer as they switch so much!
Don't try to find all the answers right now, find what works, use it and experiment from there to see what else you do and don't like.

 

[vangroover]

Don't try to find all the answers right now, find what works, use it and experiment from there to see what else you do and don't like.

Thanks for your response. I appreciate the perspective. I know that, to an extent, this is really just the beginning of my "vaping journey." I guess at the moment, I'm wanting to make sure, to the extent possible, that I'm not going in a direction that won't be that satisfying for me. For example, I know a lot of people like evods. I can see where they're coming from, but I've found it hard to get a warm vape from them. From that, I'm assuming that bottom coils aren't the way to go. So, at least for now, I won't bother with them too much anymore.

From what you and others have said, it seems like dual coils may help achieve a warmer vape. So, I'm leaning towards that at the moment.

Really, it's just that I'm itching to place an order for some cartos and, before I do, I wanted to canvas the wealth of knowledge of ECF members. It'll be trial and error, no doubt... just trying to narrow down the options a wee bit at the moment.

Again, thanks for taking the time to respond to my question.

 

[sawlight]

And that's another caveat, if you don't have a decent local vendor it really sucks ordering one of these and two of those trying to find what you like! I remember ordering samples to find what I liked, then hoping I would get my next shipment in time so I didn't run out! You find something you like, but didn't order a lot, because you really aren't sure it's what you want, then it works and the race is on to try and get more in before you are out!
I can't comment on the Evod's, haven't tried them, I tried the Vivi's and hated them, my buddy just had the same experience with the Kanger Protank's, so I'll mark that one off my list as well! I really settled into carto tanks, again, I'm an Ikenvape junkie, and I've played with RBA's, nice flavor, but man are they a PITA! I think my next attempt will be the "Terminator" a Killer 705 clone that I can put into a carto tank. Will I like it? I've no clue! But I figure at $12 it's better than dropping $80 on the original to find out!
Bang for buck, I'll throw out some things to try, that I personally have tried and like very much! As it's next to impossible to get the Ikenvape 510 carto's, these really do live up to the hype IMO! https://www.ikenvape.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=FUZELRPCH
This is a simple, clean carto tank and for $10 it's really hard to beat, even if you don't use Issac's carto's, you end up with a decent tank to try others on, https://www.ikenvape.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=FUZETNK
He also sells a "stealth adapter" that goes 510-801, but again, it's never in stock as well, but you will need a 510 battery to 801 adapter,
https://www.ikenvape.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ADPT
But as I said, I'm an Ikenvape fan, others aren't!

 

[vangroover]

And that's another caveat, if you don't have a decent local vendor it really sucks ordering one of these and two of those trying to find what you like! I remember ordering samples to find what I liked, then hoping I would get my next shipment in time so I didn't run out! You find something you like, but didn't order a lot, because you really aren't sure it's what you want, then it works and the race is on to try and get more in before you are out!
I can't comment on the Evod's, haven't tried them, I tried the Vivi's and hated them, my buddy just had the same experience with the Kanger Protank's, so I'll mark that one off my list as well! I really settled into carto tanks, again, I'm an Ikenvape junkie, and I've played with RBA's, nice flavor, but man are they a PITA! I think my next attempt will be the "Terminator" a Killer 705 clone that I can put into a carto tank. Will I like it? I've no clue! But I figure at $12 it's better than dropping $80 on the original to find out!
Bang for buck, I'll throw out some things to try, that I personally have tried and like very much! As it's next to impossible to get the Ikenvape 510 carto's, these really do live up to the hype IMO! https://www.ikenvape.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=FUZELRPCH
This is a simple, clean carto tank and for $10 it's really hard to beat, even if you don't use Issac's carto's, you end up with a decent tank to try others on, https://www.ikenvape.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=FUZETNK
He also sells a "stealth adapter" that goes 510-801, but again, it's never in stock as well, but you will need a 510 battery to 801 adapter,
https://www.ikenvape.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ADPT
But as I said, I'm an Ikenvape fan, others aren't!

Thanks, sawlight. Vendors here are okay, but sparse and out of the way - I guess downtown rent ('round where I live )is to expensive for most vape shops... So, yeah, the hunt is on, ordering a couple of these and some of those, and maybe some of that! It's about the journey, I guess, right?

 

[sawlight]

Yup, until you find what works, then you stock up on it, so you have plenty, then play with this or that as you can.