Best delivery system?

[Matthee]

So what in your opinion is the best delivery system? Best in the sense of: (1) Least mechanical problems - like leaking, breaking down, etc. (2) Good, consistent flavour - not burnt or metallic or plastic taste, etc. (3) Good, consistent throat hit (TH). My limited experience thus far: Twisp Clearo - good TH, flavour below par, coils erratic. Vivi Nova clone - great TH, metallic taste, weak flavour. Vapeonly Mini BCC - below par TH, average flavour, started leaking after 3 days. Kanger Protank - good TH, best flavour, one leaked from day one, the other one is still perfect after about 2 weeks. Kanger Mini Protank - even better than its bigger brother, but its tank is glass and mine fell and broke. Wonder how rebuildables, like the Ithaka will compare?

 

[Jacques34]

The Kayfun or Kayfun Lite is definitely my favorite. Easy to set up, great flavour, vapor production and throat hit and yet have to have a leak. I have a Russian and a Russian 91% on order which is a clone of the above two. Tods review on this is that it it a carbon copy of the Kayfun and same quality.

My second choice would be the Ithaka. I have an original and I am very happy with it. I would group this wit the Terminator/Oddy/Nautilus/oddyseus and Euforia/penelope as they are all set up with non resistance and resistance wire. The flavour and throat hit from these are excellent, but there is a learning curve in setting these up to vape that way. They are a bit temperamental and if incorrectly set up, could be a nightmare with poor vapor and flooding/leaking.....BUT.....once set up correctly, one of the best vapes you can have. Thus my reason for preferring the Kayfun as it is very easy to set up and no leaks. Almost maintenance free except for recoiling every once in a while and refilling.

Out of the ones mentioned by Mathee, the protank would be my favorite, but once you went to the Rba styles as above, these will go into your vaping storage case.

 

[ForeverTwoWheels]

I would have to say the Reo/Reomizer for me. Kinda pricy but, I haven't bought any devices/atties in over a month, before I was buying things once/twice a week. It just satisfies.

 

[Matthee]

Thanks guys. Have checked out Todds video on the Russian. He mentioned something about pressure - is that the reason these things are more effective? How does that work? Will look at the Reo next.

 

[fred1sa]

The Kayfun or Kayfun Lite is definitely my favorite. Easy to set up, great flavour, vapor production and throat hit and yet have to have a leak. I have a Russian and a Russian 91% on order which is a clone of the above two. Tods review on this is that it it a carbon copy of the Kayfun and same quality.

Where did you order the kayfun and russians from and how is there shipping to SA?

 

[Jacques34]

Where did you order the kayfun and russians from and how is there shipping to SA?

Hi, I ordered it from e-zig Online, Fachhandel für Elektronische Zigaretten, Zubehör und E-Liquids

They use DHL from Germany to SA and should be under a week. They charge a flat shipping rate of 12euro which isn't bad for DHL express international.

i ordered my Kayfun Lite from E-Zigaretten - elektronische Zigaretten auf InTaste.de

Their customer service is outstanding and they use FedEx express. I ordered my Kayfun on a Thursday and received it the following Tuesday.

 

[fred1sa]

Ok, bit to rich for my blood.
Happy with my protank 2 and rsst.

 

[Jacques34]

Ok, bit to rich for my blood.
Happy with my protank 2 and rsst.

The protank is very nice, but I don't like the stock coils. I rebuilt my coils at 1.1ohms. I prefer mech mods to VV mods lately and anything over 1.5ohms just doesn't do it for me on a mech.

 

[Matthee]

The protank is very nice, but I don't like the stock coils. I rebuilt my coils at 1.1ohms. I prefer mech mods to VV mods lately and anything over 1.5ohms just doesn't do it for me on a mech.

Hi Jacques - Thanks for sharing all your experience. Some more questions, please: If I understand correctly, a mech mod allows you to use coils at lower resistance - why is that better for you? I like a proper TH, will a mech mod still deliver that? What mech mod do you use? Do you use the kayfun on your mech mod?

 

[Jacques34]

Hi Matthee - I like vaping at lower ohms. VV is no longer needed as you can just build your coils according to what W you want to vape at. This means you will still get the same TH and vapor if not better depending on the coils that you build. The really great thing about Mech mods is that they don't break....there is nothing that can break really. I have had a Zmax fail on me and a Vamo as these electronic boards only last so long and one drop and it could mean the end of your mod.

I have dropped my mechanicals more than once and it just keeps going. If you want to go with a more constant Wattage or make a mechanical into a VW device, you can add a kick to it and you have the same thing. Should the kick fail in the future, you only need to replace this component and your mod will still function.

Also keep in mind that with mechanical mods, you can actually vape at power settings and ohms that a vv mod would not allow due to certain cut-off functions. This means that you can actually get more TH and vapor than with a VV or VW mod.

I use my kayfun lite on a GP Paps V2.5 which is my favourite mod at the moment. It hits really hard. It is the mod on the left in the picture. It is in 18650 mode here. It is also very compact in 18350 mode and you will not find a VV device that is shorter than this.

I the picture is also my MKB-TS which is a GGTS Clone with a Terminator which is an GG Oddyseus Clone. These are both made by Rainbow Heaven and are the same quality as the original GG items.

To summarize, a mechanical mod will give you much more flexibility than a VV or VW device due to the Amp and Ohm limitations on the VV/VW devices which means you can get even more TH, Flavour and Vapor with a Mechanical. I also thought that VV/VW was the way to go in the beginning, but my mind changed very quickly when I got into rebuildables and built that first low ohm coil on a mech.

Hope this answers your question.

 

[Matthee]

Thanks Jacques. You have been more than helpful. Appreciated.

 

[Matthee]

I would have to say the Reo/Reomizer for me. Kinda pricy but, I haven't bought any devices/atties in over a month, before I was buying things once/twice a week. It just satisfies.

Well, the Kayfun was a close thing, Jacques, but then I started looking at the Reo/Reomizer, which seems to be an easier, more convenient system. Have ordered a Grand and RM2. Anyhow, will be on rba's shortly and am sure (after all the reading you initiated) it was a good decision. Thanks to you guys I probably have skipped a few expensive gadgets.

 

[notdanielbutdaniel]

Hey Matthee, when does your Reo arrive ? Did you go for the VV Grand or the Grand? Have only heard good things about the Reomizer, curious to hear what your impression is.

 

[Matthee]

Not arrived yet Daniel. But have left the USA according to tracking site. Ordered the Grand with RM2. Will post my impressions.

 

[mgfza]

Hi Matthee - I like vaping at lower ohms. VV is no longer needed as you can just build your coils according to what W you want to vape at. This means you will still get the same TH and vapor if not better depending on the coils that you build. The really great thing about Mech mods is that they don't break....there is nothing that can break really. I have had a Zmax fail on me and a Vamo as these electronic boards only last so long and one drop and it could mean the end of your mod.

I have dropped my mechanicals more than once and it just keeps going. If you want to go with a more constant Wattage or make a mechanical into a VW device, you can add a kick to it and you have the same thing. Should the kick fail in the future, you only need to replace this component and your mod will still function.

Also keep in mind that with mechanical mods, you can actually vape at power settings and ohms that a vv mod would not allow due to certain cut-off functions. This means that you can actually get more TH and vapor than with a VV or VW mod.

I use my kayfun lite on a GP Paps V2.5 which is my favourite mod at the moment. It hits really hard. It is the mod on the left in the picture. It is in 18650 mode here. It is also very compact in 18350 mode and you will not find a VV device that is shorter than this.

I the picture is also my MKB-TS which is a GGTS Clone with a Terminator which is an GG Oddyseus Clone. These are both made by Rainbow Heaven and are the same quality as the original GG items.

To summarize, a mechanical mod will give you much more flexibility than a VV or VW device due to the Amp and Ohm limitations on the VV/VW devices which means you can get even more TH, Flavour and Vapor with a Mechanical. I also thought that VV/VW was the way to go in the beginning, but my mind changed very quickly when I got into rebuildables and built that first low ohm coil on a mech.

Hope this answers your question.




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Hey Jacques,

What an awesome post! Thanks for the time and sharing of your experience.

I just went for a smoke (Finishing this box as I got a Kanger Evod and Vision ET last night) and I kept asking myself, "why the fudge" am I smoking! As they say, Vape Away

I am also looking getting a nice Mod and a Protank (Almost bought an SVD last night as well), and you have definitely swayed me in the direction of a Mech Mod instead of a VV/VW. So the question is: Where did you get your GP Paps V2.5 ?

Besides, the tinkering and fiddling that comes with figuring out how to make the best coil / wick to ones own preferences appeals to me!

 

[Matthee]

Hi MGF - Yes, Jacques's post was very informative and helpful for me as a newbie. I have a Vamo 3 (VV/VW) at the moment, which is great with the Protank. Hopefully, when my Reo (very convenient mech mod) and Reomizer (bottom fed RBA) arrives, the Vamo will be a good backup. Also will use it to measure the resistance of the coils I will be building. Am looking at a cheaper mod (K100 or the like) and RBA (Igo L probably) for purposes of tasting juices as DIY is now on my horizon. Us Cape based vapers are growing on this forum. Time for that Vapemeet Oupa suggested!

 

[mgfza]

Hi MGF - Yes, Jacques's post was very informative and helpful for me as a newbie. I have a Vamo 3 (VV/VW) at the moment, which is great with the Protank. Hopefully, when my Reo (very convenient mech mod) and Reomizer (bottom fed RBA) arrives, the Vamo will be a good backup. Also will use it to measure the resistance of the coils I will be building. Am looking at a cheaper mod (K100 or the like) and RBA (Igo L probably) for purposes of tasting juices as DIY is now on my horizon. Us Cape based vapers are growing on this forum. Time for that Vapemeet Oupa suggested!

Hi Matthee,

Thanks for the info! I have DMM which I can use to measure the Ohms to start, definitely feel more keen on the Mech Mod ATM. Although safety is perhaps better on a VV/VW...

I am also quite keen on something that deliviers the full flavour as intended.

Yeah, I would be keen for a meet! Pump some Juice, burn some Silica, you know

 

[Jacques34]

Hey Jacques,

What an awesome post! Thanks for the time and sharing of your experience.

I just went for a smoke (Finishing this box as I got a Kanger Evod and Vision ET last night) and I kept asking myself, "why the fudge" am I smoking! As they say, Vape Away

I am also looking getting a nice Mod and a Protank (Almost bought an SVD last night as well), and you have definitely swayed me in the direction of a Mech Mod instead of a VV/VW. So the question is: Where did you get your GP Paps V2.5 ?

Besides, the tinkering and fiddling that comes with figuring out how to make the best coil / wick to ones own preferences appeals to me!

Hi Mgfza, it is always a pleasure to help where I can. When using a mechanical mod, just remember to always use safe chemistry high drain batteries like imr batteries. This is a very important safety rule as you don't want venting or exploding batteries in something you will put near your face due to overloading or shorting.

I always first check the resistance of my builds first, then see what amps I will be drawing to be sure that I won't be overloading the batteries I am using. With imr batteries you should be safe.

You may want to look at something rebuildable with a mech so that you can determine your own resistance. A protank coil can be rebuilt,but is not as easy as a rba that was meant for this...

Oh yes, I got my GP Paps from www.vapourart.com

They release a batch every now and then, but you have to be there the minute they open the sales on these or you will miss them. They will be releasing the GP Paps X in Sept which seems like a really nice mod. The V2.5 is 22mm dia. which is why I got it. It fits my Kayfun Lite like a glove which is also 22mm. The X will be 23mm which is perfect for my terminators again, so will probably try to get in on one of these...

 

[Jacques34]

Hi MGF - Yes, Jacques's post was very informative and helpful for me as a newbie. I have a Vamo 3 (VV/VW) at the moment, which is great with the Protank. Hopefully, when my Reo (very convenient mech mod) and Reomizer (bottom fed RBA) arrives, the Vamo will be a good backup. Also will use it to measure the resistance of the coils I will be building. Am looking at a cheaper mod (K100 or the like) and RBA (Igo L probably) for purposes of tasting juices as DIY is now on my horizon. Us Cape based vapers are growing on this forum. Time for that Vapemeet Oupa suggested!

Hi Mathee, the IGO L is a nice little dripper, I just ended up drilling the air hole out. It makes a huge difference to the vape. It is around 1.2mm stock. I drilled mine to 1.6mm and what a different vape!

 

[Matthee]

Hi Mathee, the IGO L is a nice little dripper, I just ended up drilling the air hole out. It makes a huge difference to the vape. It is around 1.2mm stock. I drilled mine to 1.6mm and what a different vape!

Thanks Jacques. Good to know about that air hole. My Reo Grand and Reomizer is just awesome, so easy to do - especially for an untech like me.