A mod is not a mod !!!

[jazon1]

Not if they both provide 4.2000000 volts they will be the same !!!

Another passion I have is Airsoft, and they are the same with their bloody batteries, while a more powerful one does give better rof they also claim a better battery gives more power, range and accuracy which is a load of crap.


Another passion I have is cars and when speaking to people from the us all they talk about is bigger engines too, I drive a 2012 BMW 2.0 Td which is 188bhp 0-62mph in 7 seconds but yet their 7.0 200bhp 0-60 9.2 sec motors are faster ?!!??

Boys and their toys eh

not really the same just because two devices can out out 4.2 on a fresh battery does not mean they are the same two examples come to mind instantly:
one: a device with regulated output will keep the 4.2 volts even when the battery is well below 4.2 volts were as a unregulated device will drop volts as you are using the device and you will get weaker and weaker hits as you are using it and the battery drains.

two: different devices will have different amps it can output and two MODs outputting 4.2 volts but are capable of different amps will hit differently the one that can handle higher amps will be able to heat the coil faster and maintain the current, were as the lower amp device might take longer to heat up and not be able to maintain the power throughout the hit giving a much weaker hit.

 

[Fishtec]

The while pwm does my head in too like reviewers saying that somthing is not accurate because it uses it -_- every ecig with vv vw uses pwm if it didnt then your ecig would need multiple wraps of wire to create a step up circuit and wouldn't be nearly half as portable as they are now

 

[_more_]

I have my perfect setup and I couldn't have it on just any battery. The OP needs to decide what type of battery works well with the type/flavor of juice and delivery/cartomizer/tank/clearo/drip. We are all different in what we require. All battery/mods do not work the same.Some are variable some are just plain.The plain ones are not consistent, meaning your battery will start at a higher voltage and end at a lower one.This means with a plain battery your juice container/holder/carto will taste different through out the vape.

amirite?

 

[donnah]

Also, with all the rebuildables out there, not just any device can be used. If the device doesn't have some kind of short protection..(rbas frequently get shorts) the device will be ruined instead of throwing an error code.

 

[WolfeReign]

In fact next time your reviewing a mod, don't put anything on it, just stick it in your mouth and suck until your eyes pop out and tell me how good it vapes

Thank you, i think you need a disclaimer in your post that states do not read this while drinking coffee. I understand you were in a "rant" as you said but this line kills me LOL.

I would have to agree with you on your post in it's entirety as there are far to many reviewers out there who have a vested interest in a company, or they have to double talk and make the review of the device look good, as they need to get the freebies to continue vaping. What kills me is there are two reviewers (no names) that each and every video they have out, no matter how craptastic the device is you always here "oh lmnop is a great device, and well worth getting" (yet off camera they are saying gee where can i get my next freebie.

That being said, two great reviewers i have seen that go through the entire fit and finish of devices giving you all information and remain objective are PBusardo and Grim Green.

 

[Tonytiger1]

Vv devices mask inefficient construction. High end mods and atomizers are way different. If you ever get to try one you will understand. But that's the fun. Keep upgrading.

Check out mmvapors
Tony

 

[fourthrok]

rant over... I have been trying to find the best e cig all my searches show are the best batteries, for you what is the best ecig and I mean the business end and not the battery that just powers your ecig

The "e-cig" is the WHOLE package as has been repeatedly mentioned in this thread. That is: battery device, atomizer, and juice. The word "mod" is a shortened version of the word "modified". It generally refers to just the battery device, but can refer to things like rebuildable atomizers or anything that has been altered from the original design of a thing. A atomizer/juice delivery device is not usually referred to as a "mod". If the battery housing/device features a removable battery it's generally lumped into the "Mod" or "APV" category. Whether that is appropriate or not is moot. That is just the way it is.

As for "business end". No one part of an electronic cigarette is of any use without the other. What good is an atomizer/cartomizer/tank if there is nothing there to power it? So what is the "business end" then? What e-cig battery is of any use for vaping unless something is on it to power and make vapor? And if there is no juice in the atomizer device.. what use is it with or without the battery attached?

So you question was what is "the best e-cig". That hamstrings me a bit, but since you seem to specify you are only interested in ONE component (that being the atomizer end) then I'll say for me I have gotten the best satisfaction from cartomizers with single coil at around 2ohm on a standard 3.7 battery. I particularly enjoy using a carto tank to put my carto in. I'm not especially picky what tank since the juice I use doesn't cause cracking or leaking, but aesthetically and for practicality tend to prefer larger, fatter tanks (4.5-6ml capacity). The best cartomizers in my opinion would be Ikenvape, Boge and Kanger. There. You asked, I answered.

 

[tj99959]

Not if they both provide 4.2000000 volts they will be the same !!!

Another passion I have is Airsoft, and they are the same with their bloody batteries, while a more powerful one does give better rof they also claim a better battery gives more power, range and accuracy which is a load of crap.


Another passion I have is cars and when speaking to people from the us all they talk about is bigger engines too, I drive a 2012 BMW 2.0 Td which is 188bhp 0-62mph in 7 seconds but yet their 7.0 200bhp 0-60 9.2 sec motors are faster ?!!??

Boys and their toys eh

Never had a thing to do with cars

Now how fast can a 2.0ltr get from 0 to 100k/h? Yes that's a BMW engine. Believe it or not, we really do have BMW's in the US.

Batteries can and do make a huge difference, it's measured as a "C" rating. In other words it's ability to produce amperage. Just because a battery can produce 4.2v, doesn't mean that it can do so under load. That's why so many small PV's suggest not using LR atties or cartos.

 

[chuckie]

Great point Johnny,but you need to understand that this is a suppliers forum and since there hasn't been anything new invented since the genesis atty about three years ago,people don't really have anything new to sell or talk about.
I've said for years battery holders are just battery holders Someday when technology allows someone will come up with a battery holder that doesn't make u look like you're sucking on a Vokswagen tailpipe or an antique music box and will still last longer than a month,but until then I guess we're still stuck with the same tired posts and reviews.
There's only so much you can say about a an overpriced battery tube that is used to heat up some overpriced flavored vegetable juice.
Thanks for being smart and posting something that makes sense.

 

[Tonytiger1]

Well I guess some just have it in there head they are all the same. It's so not true. A good battery, good mod and a good geni make a huge difference in experience and endurance.

I do agree I wish they could be smaller. One day the battery technology Or sone new atty invention make make it possible. Put for now this is what we have.
Like many I've upgraded and upgrade
Very pleased with my current setup. I'm out all day and I don't need to carry a second battery. And I'm smoke free. That's the key.

Tony

 

[Jonny2400]

Well to give you all an update, I got myself a provari, mini with green led. It's lovely.. A lot heavier that I thought and an very impressed ...

But my viva nova still tastes the same, I can increase my voltage to 3.9/4.0 any higher and I get a burned taste... Similar to my vision spinner 1300mah battery......

Also got a AGA T as a tester before spending the money on z pro atty and am glad I did, as am very unimpressed, now I admit my coil wrapping skills are low but at this point it's worst that my nova, so all in all £240 later and am taking my star dust and spinner to work ....


Maybe that's the point with mods they don't do anything really any better than a £20 ego, but they just feel nicer to use ...

my search continues for the business end

 

[Buggs5347]

I don't know what to tell you. I don't have a Provari, no longer use Stardusts and don't have any RBA. What's best is what you like the best and you are only going to know that by trying various things like you are doing.

What I do use is a Varitube-3 with 2 18350 batteries in it, a couple of egos, several ego twists and a couple of new spinners, a bunch of smoktech 1.7 ohm cartomizers which I use alone or in tanks, and a few 510 atomizers. I can tell you that while the flavor is the same using any of the delivery systems on any of those batteries -- the vape quality is quite different between the Varitube and the twists or spinners. The vape is more consistent and always strong with my Varitube and rather weak in comparison when using the ego type batteries. Actually, I am always quite satisfied with the ego vv type batteries until I use my Varitube. Funny that.

But, I've gone through the various ohm levels of cartomizers, tried vivi novas, stardusts, CE3's, etc., and tried Boge cartomizers and so far I've found I like the Smoktech 1.7 ohm single coil cartomizers the best. I've even tried other ohm of smoktech and dual coils, but keep going back to my Smok 1.7 ohm XL's or shorties. I use the simple drip atty's only when I'm at home. For the juice I use, this is what is the best - for me.

For some folks it's the Stardusts, other's its the vivi Novas and the whole gamut. I tried them and don't like them as the flavor seems muted.

Good luck in finding your favorite.

Peace out and vape in peace.

 

[twisted1]

...for you what is the best ecig and I mean the business end and not the battery that just powers your ecig

Either one or the other. I am doomed to drip.

1. 50/50 18 mg e liquid
2. LR dripping atty either debriged and dewicked, or out the package, broken in and using stainless steel donuts ~ http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...377-stainless-steel-doughnuts-dripping-7.html

4. Regular atty cleaning is a must.