Best e-cig device irrespective of cost

[BlueMoods]

And another vote for the Provari, mini if size is a concern. I'd also suggest an ego adapter form provapes with your new provari. Now it will get along fine with ego or 510 tops, and that's a lot of delivery devices to choose from. You can set you volts to suit any of them with any juice that works well in your delivery device (some won't do well with 100% VG).

Yes costly, close to a 300.00 start up investment but, you want the best, most reliable and durable, set it how you like it with the delivery device you prefer - that's how to get it and have it be something you will still like years down the road.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

Didn't read the entire thread...so if already mentioned, pardon moi. On the higher end, there's some outrageous prices to be found on certain hard to get mechanicals and RBA's. Of the products that are mass produced, the SvoeMesto Semovar with Kayfun 3.1 ES, may the top of the line in regulated devices. About $500 for both. There are hybrids (mechs and tops) that run that or more. Scarcity and market demand distort certain niche segments of the market. So, probably the SvoeMesto, German made, Russian designed, Nivel chip powered, Semovar/Kayfun combination would be near the top of the list. All subjective though. No right or wrong answer. My two cents. There's a list?

 

[chamane44]

Thanks for all the info given here. Looking to buy another set up.... but I do love my eGo-twist 1000 with Kanger Protank 'glass'. I hope all the reviews hold true, have seen good things on this one...

 

[ebbrey]

Get the Provari and the pila charger with 2 batteries.. I tried some starter kits in the beginning, did not give the vape experience. Also stay away form rebuildables from start. Im still figuring that stuff out. And i have spent alot of cash on things that just keep collecting dust on a shelf. Only thing that works for me is a provari with a vivi nova 2.5 on top of it. Get some high resistance replacement heads (2.8 ohm) and some juice and get started. The first thing you need is a device that is easy and reliable with enough power to get you trough a coupple of days without batteries being constantly empty. After that you dont need to search for the "best" place to put your juice in. You need something to get you started and off normal cigarettes. When the transition is done you can check some youtube vids from pbusardo and igetcha69 over at e-cig-reviews and you will find stuff you want to try out and fill your shelf with

 

[alecknightr]

I started out on a Smoktech ZMAX Mini...I had the same mindset as the OP in which I wanted a mod that could do everything, i.e. variable voltage/power, ability to determine coil resistance, and being able to throw in a battery and maintain a constant voltage until discharged (without worrying about over-discharging). BUT, size was a big factor in my decision, as well, because this was going everywhere with me in my right pocket. I was new to vaping and skeptical that I would be able to stay off of cigarettes, so I decided to save a bit of money if I was going to end up give it up after a few weeks.

With all that being said...several months later, still not even a drag off of a cigarette, and I have mutated into a vape geek/fanatic/connoisseur/etc. I realize that I should have spent the money on a ProVari to begin with. As far as I have heard/experienced, they are the top of the line VV mod, and I ended up buying one anyways. So if there is a chance that vaping may become a hobby for new vapers like it did for me, I believe the ProVari is the mod to start with.

 

[MJTP]

If I'm researching right, the popular combo seems to be the Ego Twist and Evod Clearomizer.

What this entails battery wise having a battery that is cigar-sized, with a small knob at the end that controls what is essentially the power of your battery. It's a bit like temperature on an oven. You adjust this A. Because different juices "boil" better or worse at different "temps", B. Because the material that boils the liquid gets coated and clogged with burnt residue if heated too powerfully, and C. Because many users try to push this as far as they can because a higher voltage equals a more realistic throat experience. Also, the Twist is a big battery, it'll last a darn good time. If not, I believ someone said it has a "smoke-while-charging" chord you can buy.

What this entails clearomizer wise (the section that holds the nicotine liquid) is having cheap and replaceable "barrel" that screws into your battery, which you easily (with this model) and manually fill yourself, with flavored nicotine liquid. This is preferrable because A. The vapor lasts longer without changing anything, being 5x bigger than anything a regular e-cig can dream of holding, B. Having a clear element to the barrel allows you to see exactly how much liquid is left, C. Because the Evods are quite frankly made very well, D. They're cheap in comparison to disposable cartomizers, E. You can take every element of the thing apart easier than any other brand, allowing for extremely simple adjusting and cleaning, F. THOUSANDS of ingredients, flavors, and textures of nicotine liquid to choose from, and G. Though these are $7 per "barrel", they are washable (or completely replaceable if $7 is fine for you) and should last a very long time, the only thing you should probably replace with each different-flavor re-filling, or say, weekly cleaning, is the internal "heaters, which are $1. Certainly cheaper than $15 per pack of half broken Blu cartomizers.

It sounds like a lot to take in. But trust me, I've tried about 6 different "normal" e-cigs now. Literally all of them seem to break out of nowhere after 6 days, have burnt, poisonous cartomizers that leave you sick a week, or simply have cartomizers that are half broken and drain your wallet quicker than any real cigarette could. Quality control would make the "stylish, easy" devices actually worth it; when a Blu works, for example, it works. Not really much wrong with those when they fall in the %5 chance of actually even turning on. I just personally can't stand how much money I've wasted ($100+) on BROKEN products that the "easy e-cig" companies sell.

My motto is "So what if people notice that the quality, actually-working products are huge? Tell them it's an electronic hookah and they'll think it's much cooler."

I mean, really, I like the easy-go-lucky e-cigs the best, style wise. If Blu's products weren't literallt all broken, I'd love them. When they work, there's reallt nothing all that wrong with them. You simply have to get used to the fact that you get a buzz and feel by exhaling through the nose, not the mouth; learnin that makes cigs like Blu so much better. But simply, in this generation, brands like Blu don't even make products that turn on.

 

[DoogieTony]

Just thought i'd point out that while the Provari is an excellent apv, Provape is not know for their e-liquid.

If you don't like the taste of the Provape liquids don't stress too much because there are many different vendors who sell top notch delicious tasting liquids.

I personally had to try 4 different vendors before I found some that I really enjoyed.

 

[NicoHolic]

Take a look at the mechanical REO Grand bottom feeding box mod and a Reomizer 2 rebuildable atomizer (comes with a drip tip). Its 6 ml tank and 18650 battery make for a wake-up to bedtime device in a tiny, discreet package. The REO Grand is about as tall and as deep as a pack of standard length filter cigarettes, but not nearly as wide, and it fits in the hand comfortably. Box mods don't look like you're kissing the end of a sex toy to non-vapers, as tube mods do. It's EMP and static-proof since there are no electronics to fail, and it's rugged, machined out of a single block of aluminum. You can wash it in the kitchen sink. For many, a REO is the last mod they'll buy (other than more REOs)—they become "reonauts."

Although you can use cartomizers or drip atomizers on the REO Grand, it's dead simple to wrap coils for the RM2 rebuildable atomizer, at your own custom resistance level, out of inexpensive and readily available Kanthal or Nichrome wire. There are tons of "how-to" videos out there! The RM2 base is ceramic, so accidental shorts are very unlikely, but you'll want a cheap multimeter/ohms checker to double-check that. The REOs have a collapsible battery spring for short circuit protection you can easily and inexpensively replace if need be. You can use silica or ekowool for the wick, but many (including me) have found the most flavorful wick material to be cotton (from cotton balls or even Q-tips). I think the RM2 on a REO is vaping nirvana. For more info, view the Reos Mods forum here.

 

[elricho]

Take a look at the mechanical REO Grand bottom feeding box mod and a Reomizer 2 rebuildable atomizer (comes with a drip tip). Its 6 ml tank and 18650 battery make for a wake-up to bedtime device in a tiny, discreet package. The REO Grand is about as tall and as deep as a pack of standard length filter cigarettes, but not nearly as wide, and it fits in the hand comfortably. Box mods don't look like you're kissing the end of a sex toy to non-vapers, as tube mods do. It's EMP and static-proof since there are no electronics to fail, and it's rugged, machined out of a single block of aluminum. You can wash it in the kitchen sink. For many, a REO is the last mod they'll buy (other than more REOs)—they become "reonauts."

Although you can use cartomizers or drip atomizers on the REO Grand, it's dead simple to wrap coils for the RM2 rebuildable atomizer, at your own custom resistance level, out of inexpensive and readily available Kanthal or Nichrome wire. There are tons of "how-to" videos out there! The RM2 base is ceramic, so accidental shorts are very unlikely, but you'll want a cheap multimeter/ohms checker to double-check that. The REOs have a collapsible battery spring for short circuit protection you can easily and inexpensively replace if need be. You can use silica or ekowool for the wick, but many (including me) have found the most flavorful wick material to be cotton (from cotton balls or even Q-tips). I think the RM2 on a REO is vaping nirvana. For more info, view the Reos Mods forum here.

Great POST! I'm 23 days off analogs and not looking back. Own VV Grand, Grand and Mini, hit all 3 all day. SOOOOO happy! Rebuilding my first RBA tomorrow (got all of the supplies). Can OP share his/her progress?

 

[Fizzpop]

As many have said, "Best" is highly subjective. But given your preferences you have outlined, I'd recommend the following:

An eGo Spinner. The eGo is as close to a "standard" in the vaping world as you can get. You get the benefit of both an eGo and a 510 connection. The Spinner has variable voltage which is nice for dialing in a perfect vape - some juices taste better cool (lower voltage) others taste better warmer (higher voltage). You will want at least two of these so you can swap out while they are charging:
eGo 1300mah Battery

A Kanger Pro-Mini tank or clone. These use the ubiquitous Kanger bottom coils which are cheap and readily available. Easy to put on a new coil, nice vape, bottom coil means no dry hits:
Kanger Pro Mini or
Mini Davide (clone)

These use the following coils:
Kanger Protank Heads

Note: I am not endorsing these vendors, the links were just readily available. I have ordered from Gotvapes and have never had any problems.

I use a Genesis style atomizer on a Provari when I am at home, but it is large and not good for travel - it must be kept upright, for example. It's personally my favorite vape, but not suited for what you described. What I have linked above is pretty much my day-to-day on the go/traveling setup and I have always been happy with the quality of the vape.

Bonus: The Kanger coil heads are easily rebuilt if you are into such things and are easy to clean in order to extend their working lifespan:

 

[kk5000]

OK so going with this :

ProVari™ Starter Kit with Tank V2.5 New Design - Processing Time 1-3 Days
[510 Atomizer?:Yes, Add a 510 Atomizer][18650 Extension?:Yes, Add the 18650 Extension Cap][18650 Batteries?:Add One 18650 AW IMR Battery][Display and LED Color?:Red Display and LED] $250.35

3 Bottle Premium Sample Pack (5 ml each)
[Bottle 1:12 mg (Medium-Low)][Bottle 2:18 mg (Medium)][Bottle 3:24 mg (High)][Premium Bottle 1:Absolute Zero Menthol][Premium Bottle 2:Big Sky Tobacco][Premium Bottle 3roVape Sweet Tobacco] $15.95

510 Cartomizers - Black - 5 Pack - Regular - 3 Ohm $15.95

Will I need anything else or am I good to go for now?

OK people my setup came in and first, a little anecdote. I finally put together the filled Kanger Protank (had trouble filling as was putting liquid through the pipe which seemed like the obvious thing to do but then saw the manual and realized it goes all around it) and the provari. Took a drag on it at 5.0 setting thinking it was the stupid Volt I've been chomping on and of course... Nearly passed out from the vape LOL. Be careful with this thing. It is uber powerful.

Now to my question :

Why did I need :

510 Cartomizers - Black - 5 Pack - Regular - 3 Ohm $15.95
510 Atomizer

?

I don't seem to need either with the tank or do I disassemble it at some point and hook those in when the presetup stuff burns? When is that?

 

[Cactus Breath]

Congrats on receiving your ProVari. It's an excellent PV which should last you a long time.

Now to my question :

Why did I need :

510 Cartomizers - Black - 5 Pack - Regular - 3 Ohm $15.95
510 Atomizer

?

I don't seem to need either with the tank or do I disassemble it at some point and hook those in when the presetup stuff burns? When is that?

The cartos (assuming they're the ones with polyfill inside) are just an alternate juice delivery device. You can saturate the polyfill with juice, attach them to your Provari and vape them.

The 510 atomizer (assuming it doesn't have polyfill inside) is used for dripping. Great way to test new flavors, or some people enjoy vaping almost exclusively from drippers as it lets you taste the juice with no wicks, filler or anything else in between you and the juice. The Ocelot wrote a great primer on dripping here:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/the-ocelot/4005-drip-drip-drip-sound-dripping.html

 

[kk5000]

Congrats on receiving your ProVari. It's an excellent PV which should last you a long time.


The cartos (assuming they're the ones with polyfill inside) are just an alternate juice delivery device. You can saturate the polyfill with juice, attach them to your Provari and vape them.

The 510 atomizer (assuming it doesn't have polyfill inside) is used for dripping. Great way to test new flavors, or some people enjoy vaping almost exclusively from drippers as it lets you taste the juice with no wicks, filler or anything else in between you and the juice. The Ocelot wrote a great primer on dripping here:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/the-ocelot/4005-drip-drip-drip-sound-dripping.html

I see so in reality I need nothing except the tank + provari for pure vaping? I should likely buy like 2-3 tanks and fill em with different flavors depending on mood.

 

[Marc A Wilson]

It depends on what you want. For daily vaping, my favorite set up is the iTaste MVP with a kanger protank. But nothing beats the flavor and vapor output of a sub-ohm nimbus on a good mechanical mod, like the K101.

 

[rileyman]

It depends on what you want. For daily vaping, my favorite set up is the iTaste MVP with a kanger protank. But nothing beats the flavor and vapor output of a sub-ohm nimbus on a good mechanical mod, like the K101.

Why cant anything beat the flavor and vapor output of the nimbus? I feel like its hard to believe a 70$ device delivers it the best

 

[keithu2]

And another vote for the Provari, mini if size is a concern. I'd also suggest an ego adapter form provapes with your new provari. Now it will get along fine with ego or 510 tops, and that's a lot of delivery devices to choose from. You can set you volts to suit any of them with any juice that works well in your delivery device (some won't do well with 100% VG).

Yes costly, close to a 300.00 start up investment but, you want the best, most reliable and durable, set it how you like it with the delivery device you prefer - that's how to get it and have it be something you will still like years down the road.

Is the ego adapter from provape supposed to fit "all" ego threads? The one that came with my mini will not connect to the mini Davide that I have. Good thing all my vape mail came in yesterday, so I have a PT2 to use.

 

[Cactus Breath]

I see so in reality I need nothing except the tank + provari for pure vaping? I should likely buy like 2-3 tanks and fill em with different flavors depending on mood.

The tank and ProVari are all you need (and replacement heads or the ability to rebuild the ProTank head eventually, of course).

And yep, I like to have multiple flavors on hand because I swap out through the day. IMHO, vaping one flavor all day eventually leads to the flavor becoming muted.

 

[Racehorse]

"Best" is subjective.

I have exposed friends to provari's and reo's and they "love" their ego twists.

That taught me something.

Some people "rave" about their little eRolls.

Best for you is based on YOUR specific requirements, likes and dislikes and habits and how you vape.

$$ has absoutely no bearing on BEST

 

[RobinBanks]

I'm a newbie (less than 2 weeks in), but already WAY too into this. Started with an Ego Twist and some Kanger Tanks (I like the Evods best). However, I'm already looking into the ProVari mini. I think, because of the size, I'll probably still use the Twists for work and when I'm out and about and save the ProVari for home.

However, DEFINITELY get more than 15ml of juice. Check out the eliquid forum. If you're ordering juice online it'll take a few days to get to you and you'll go through it especially fast the first few days.
Samples are definitely the way to go though!

 

[RobinBanks]

LOL pardon me, didn't realize how old this thread is!