Best Hardware for testing DIY Liquid?

[Leeroy5150]

Not really sure where to ask this, so mods if there is a more fitting place for this feel free to move.

I am a KR808d-1 Carto fan and will continue to use them for their convenience, transportability, and long lasting performance. I am however getting into mixing my own juices and cartomizers are obviously not ideal for filling to test juice ideas.

I am looking for something that will best allow me to drip a small amount of liquid, test, clear, adjust, re-test etc... with the least amount of hassle and also be similar in performance in a carto at 3.7v as this is eventually where the successful creations will be mainly utilized.

I understand that the 901 attys fit the batts and PT's that I already have. And there are some adapters for 510's. Or am I better off just getting a starter kit of one of these? Or somethng else (801,302). Or a mod to run at 3.7 with one of these?

I have no experience with anything other than the cartos and kr808 stuff from V4L, but went through about 20 blank carts today and am thinking there must be a better way... I don't have the time or patience to vape through the "well, that sounded good on paper" cartos to try again and besides, its difficult to get the previous flavors out anyway...

Any thoughts ideas would be appreciated. I don't want to waste a ton of time and money figuring out what might work best for this.

Thanks in advance for the input.

 

[Kurt]

I use a 510 for all my vaping, including DIY testing. You can drip 3 or 4 drops on the atty bridge and get a good idea of flavors. I use syringes for the liquid plus scubabatdan's e-juice calculator spreadsheet, so it is easy to make 1 mL accurately of a recipe. I prefer measuring with mL rather than drops, as drop size varies with thickness of the liquid...flavors tend to be really thin and VG is really thick.

I generally test a recipe with 3 mL, and vape it over an extended period of time. The reason is that sometimes a recipe that tastes really great at first gets cloying after a while, from too much flavor usually, and this is only found out over time. Also, some flavors might be fine at first, but tend to irritate the lungs if vaped for a while. Some toffee flavors do that to me...and some don't. You often can't get this info from just a drip vape. Juices that are too thick, and need to be thinned can also be wonderful at first, only to clog the atty in the long run or not wick from the cart well.

Just my $0.02.

 

[CJsKee]

Hi Leeroy...since the 901 works with the 808 stuff you already have, I would suggest just getting a couple of 901 attys to use for testing your DIY. That way you won't have to invest much $, unless you just want to try another model. I also think a 901 would vape the flavors more like the 808...seems to me the 501 runs hotter than the 808.

 

[Madame Psychosis]

I love the Joye306 atomizers for testing liquids. (306 attys are fully compatible with all the 510 equipment: chargers, PCC, and batteries. Just not the mouthpieces. You can also use the KR808-to-510 adapters...I have a five-pack of those coming from Heaven Gifts.)

The 306 is slightly unusual in that it is an exposed-bridge atomizer, so you can dip the atomizer into a small amount of liquid for 10-15 sec and vape for a while. Easy to drain by propping it up. Personally I suspect it runs a bit cooler than the 510 because I find flavors pop out more with the 306, too, just less vapor. I find it's just nicer than testing with the 510. I'll still prefer cartos and the 510 for most vaping, but I'm glad I have a couple of 306 attys around for dip-testing.

(there's a model-specific forum if you're curious about the 306. I buy mine from electronicstix.com.)

In any case, the other thing I've found (IME) is that new DIY liquids can change taste after a day or two; something about the flavors permeating.

 

[Guineahill]

I use a KR808D-1 most of the time for convenience, but when I'm developing flavors and testing I use a M401 pass-through. I took the small cartridge out of the mouthpiece and just drop two drops or so on the atty, put the mouthpiece on and test. I like this one because the atty is really easy to clean when needed...and it is needed often when experimenting! LOL

 

[Leeroy5150]

Dissenting opinions... that never happens here...

Thank you all for the advice. Looks like I should order some 901 attys, a 510 Starter Kit, and some 306 attys and mouthpieces. (And maybe a chuck with a cartomizer adapter and batteries). Gonna be an expensive week (not like the last month has been cheap) but anythign to keep me from smoking is a bargain at ten times the price.

Thanks for the help... time to get to that ordering...

 

[Leeroy5150]

I use a KR808D-1 most of the time for convenience, but when I'm developing flavors and testing I use a M401 pass-through. I took the small cartridge out of the mouthpiece and just drop two drops or so on the atty, put the mouthpiece on and test. I like this one because the atty is really easy to clean when needed...and it is needed often when experimenting! LOL

I'll add one to the shopping list...

Thanks...

 

[Guineahill]

Gives "Collect the Whole Set" new meaning doesn't it?!?!?!?!?!

LOL

 

[tanimn]

In regards to the flavors changing, I usually toss my bottles into some hot water when I'm done mixing and stir them around for a while. It helps the liquid "mature" quickly, probably by way of the heat allowing the ingredients to blend easier.
I've heard other people say they toss their bottles into the microwave. I'm not that adventurous.

 

[impostor71]

Thanks for posting this question Leeroy. I'm in the same boat as you, that I am a avid KR808D-1 user that wants to get into DIY.

My question to everyone is that if I get a 901 atty for the 808 batt, do I need some sort of adapter for airflow?

 

[Kismayaz]

The absolute easiest way that no one has mentioned would be to get a juicebox. you can take off the mouthpiece to drip a few drops. vape it away to taste, then pick an entirely different juice and do the same exact thing, and there will be no merging of the two flavors, and you don't have to blow out or do anything to the atty....ever, actually. I highly recommend it as I make my own juices constantly and it's the best way to decide if you have too little/too much of a certain flavor so you can change your recipe quickly and try again without literally any work. Hope this helps

 

[RyGuy]

Thanks for posting this question Leeroy. I'm in the same boat as you, that I am a avid KR808D-1 user that wants to get into DIY.

My question to everyone is that if I get a 901 atty for the 808 batt, do I need some sort of adapter for airflow?

No adapter needed for the 901 to fit on the 808 batts. I use a 901 atty on an 808 PT for testing out new mixes and it works VERY well. Just screw the 901 atty on the 808 PT and test away. The 901 atty does work significantly better on the manual PT rather than the auto though.

 

[impostor71]

No adapter needed for the 901 to fit on the 808 batts. I use a 901 atty on an 808 PT for testing out new mixes and it works VERY well. Just screw the 901 atty on the 808 PT and test away. The 901 atty does work significantly better on the manual PT rather than the auto though.

Thanks for the answer and tip RyGuy! Now, to go buy a couple of 901 attys. =)

 

[a2dcovert]

I'm not sure you should use anything but the equipment you plan to use daily. Nic juices taste different on different types of e-cigs and at different voltages. I use only the 510 atomizers but I use them at different voltages. The same juice I mix may be great at 3.7 volts but not good at 5.0 volts. I have heard that the juices taste different between the different models. What may taste good on a 901 may not taste good on a 510 or 801.

All of the receipes listed here may not taste good to you unless you make some modification for your specific equipment.