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[Rymarski]

Pocket friendly indeed..

I don't measure resistance on most of the coils I do lately :/.. I just kinda wrap them "to taste" lol. Based on previous measurements though I can pretty safely assume most of mine are in the .7-.8ohm range. I vape Teaberry from MtBaker which is a super clean very subtle flavor to begin with. In these micro coils it's just an incredibly delicious and satisfying vape. You really, truly, should not be comparing a sub ohm 3 wrap of any gauge wire with a cotton stuft micro until you try it for yourself. Wrap one up in a dripper just to see what the fuss is about.. I dare you

edit - you mention voltage drop through the day, and yeah it happens on any mech. I have to say though the micros are much nicer to the battery. I get through an 11hr work day and then some with a single 18650, and I usually swap out at about 3.8-3.75v. Even at the low end they still hit great, just a little slower.

What gauge wire are you using though? The pic in your avatar seems like a thicker gauge.

Also, with these cotton wick setups, do you just get regular cotton balls, such as the ones from cvs super x mentioned (or was it you?). So im guessing you just wrap a coil on a typical blunt syringe needle? And then filter through the cotton?

What about cleaning? Do you do dry burns on the coil to get gunk off and then stick in a new cotton wick? I rotate juices alot, and some tend to gunk coils quickly. My all day vape (hype from AVE) never gunks my coils so im ok. But Bobas and Gorilla just destroy my coils and darken super fast.

 

[super_X_drifter]

What gauge wire are you using though? The pic in your avatar seems like a thicker gauge.

Also, with these cotton wick setups, do you just get regular cotton balls, such as the ones from cvs super x mentioned (or was it you?). So im guessing you just wrap a coil on a typical blunt syringe needle? And then filter through the cotton?

What about cleaning? Do you do dry burns on the coil to get gunk off and then stick in a new cotton wick? I rotate juices alot, and some tend to gunk coils quickly. My all day vape (hype from AVE) never gunks my coils so im ok. But Bobas and Gorilla just destroy my coils and darken super fast.

Hey bro, check out this step by step photo tutorial and see how easy the RM2 is to build. That is a mini coil (14 gauge). The only difference between it and a micro coil is I drop down to a 16 gauge needle and add a few wraps:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9421933

Also, here's a link to the sterile rolled cotton used in the tutorial:
http://m.cvs.com/mt/www.cvs.com/shop/product-detail/CVS-Rolled-Cotton?skuId=955492

I run exclusively 30 ga Kanthal a1.

Glad you found us down here on the bottom

 

[Statistic]

If you are rotating through a lot of different juices then you owe it to yourself to try a cotton stuft micro. Cleaning and replacing the wick is an absolute breeze. I'm swapping out my cotton about once a day. Just pluck the old one out, burn your coil for a few sec (dry burning is a 2-3sec thing now that you're not using heat to clean the wick material, just cleaning the coil itself), twist up a new little bit of cotton and toss it in. It's almost too easy. I'm having trouble lately re-purposing all this free time I have now that I'm spending about 90% LESS time maintaining my vape hardware.

I like 26g Kanthal, but a good micro can be rolled with any gauge. I wrap mine around a 1/16" drill bit. Lots of people use other things like 16 and 18g blunt tip needles.

I'm sure it would have been X to recommend a specific cotton.. I've just been using what I can find in the closet, lol. Cotton from q-tips works fine, and I've been pulling my gf's 100% cotton makeup pads apart and using the fluffy wadding in the middle of them (don't tell her! )

Instead of wrapping a coil on the wick like a lot of people do with silica or xc or whatever, the process of making a micro is two part where you make and install the coil then twist up yer cotton and thread it through the coil.


*edit - sorry supe, I always forget to pimp your guide

 

[Rymarski]

This just seems to easy to me. I am really curious now how this compares to my genny setups. Just cotton and a nice coil is giving you such outstanding flavor and vapor?

What about if you dont properly saturate the wick for instance, will a burning taste stick in and you have to toss in a new wick?

How is the voltage drop also with the RM2 with sub-ohm coils? Curious if any of you have done any tests on this. Also, I love my ZAPs open draw. I bought a cobra once and it was way to tight of a draw (didn't bother enlarging the airhole). Seems like it is easy to do with this RM2.

 

[Statistic]

Yep. It really is too simple to believe until you see for yourself. A little bitty coil and a little bit of cotton is all you need to cause a severe lack of interest in all other configurations,

Yeah you can burn cotton, of course, but it's really easy to avoid... like, REALLY easy. It gives you plenty of warning, by way of degrading flavor and vapor, before it gets dry enough to burn it. It's gonna be easier to burn it with 20 or 30 watts than with 10 or 15 but still very manageable. And until you get a feel for it the rewicking process is just stupid easy.. 2 min and you're back up and running all fresh and new again.

Voltage drop? .. Hasn't been an issue for me. I am resisting the urge to offer opinions about the video and forum thread tomzgreat did reporting "high voltage drop at .5ohm". I am not aware of any legitimate vdrop tests having been performed on the REO. Tomzgreat's video and report should be regarded as comic relief, nothing else.

 

[Rymarski]

Thanks Statistic.

Going to do a little more reading and probably pick up a reo mini with a RM2. I was actually about to pick up an atty which was the same price as a whole setup through Reo and you guys changed my mind. I am still curious how this will compete vs my gennys though. Thanks for all the tips guys.

 

[Statistic]

You'll be delighted, I'm sure, and if not you can always unload it in the classy's for just a few dollars less than what you paid for it and use that money to get yourself a CAT scan, LOL

Seriously though, when you place your order go ahead and start saying your goodbyes. All of your other hardware will be severely neglected starting the moment you experience "what all the fuss is about" for yourself

 

[ancient puffer]

We have a pretty good idea of what your results will be, but by all means, post back here and let us know your take on it

 

[ChrisEU]

Yes, the bottom feeders are "too easy", because two variables are out of the equation: The tank and wicking.

We don't heat our tank with the coil, because one is not inside the other, as in most tank systems. And we don't need our wick to actually wick the juice from the tank to the coil. We just need something inside our coil to hold the juice until it's vaped. We do the wicking manually by squonking the stuff right onto the coil. (insert joke here)

Most tank systems I know, including Kayfuns, Taifuns, Oddys, FeV, GLV, are basically very complex juice transport systems - the coil is somewhere in the middle of it all waiting for the juice. If anything goes wrong: dry hit. That doesn't mean they are bad, in fact, I use all of the above as much as I use the REOs, for different reasons.

Bottom feeders don't have that complexity.

Oh, and you don't have to use cotton, anything that can hold a bit of juice inside the coil works, as long as it is porous. So you can use bamboo yarn, silica, even mesh or ceramic if you want. But to keep it simple, any old QTip works, preferably unused =)

 

[Rymarski]

Yes, the bottom feeders are "too easy", because two variables are out of the equation: The tank and wicking.

We don't heat our tank with the coil, because one is not inside the other, as in most tank systems. And we don't need our wick to actually wick the juice from the tank to the coil. We just need something inside our coil to hold the juice until it's vaped. We do the wicking manually by squonking the stuff right onto the coil. (insert joke here)

Most tank systems I know, including Kayfuns, Taifuns, Oddys, FeV, GLV, are basically very complex juice transport systems - the coil is somewhere in the middle of it all waiting for the juice. If anything goes wrong: dry hit. That doesn't mean they are bad, in fact, I use all of the above as much as I use the REOs, for different reasons.

Bottom feeders don't have that complexity.

Oh, and you don't have to use cotton, anything that can hold a bit of juice inside the coil works, as long as it is porous. So you can use bamboo yarn, silica, even mesh or ceramic if you want. But to keep it simple, any old QTip works, preferably unused =)

I'm going to try this cotton setup but will also order some silica 2.5mm from Reo. I will probably pick up some XC-116 and Ekowool to compare each of them. If any of you guys have tried all of them, which one stands out the most?

 

[Treebeard]

I'm going to try this cotton setup but will also order some silica 2.5mm from Reo. I will probably pick up some XC-116 and Ekowool to compare each of them. If any of you guys have tried all of them, which one stands out the most?

I've tried them all. Cotton is best for me hands down but only the rolled cotton. The cotton yarn didn't work well for me. Rolled cotton holds a lot of juice and the flavor really comes out and the best part is that it is sooooo easy to change.

 

[Statistic]

I've tried them all. Cotton is best for me hands down but only the rolled cotton. The cotton yarn didn't work well for me. Rolled cotton holds a lot of juice and the flavor really comes out and the best part is that it is sooooo easy to change.

Agreed. I have lengths of Ekowool, XC 116 and 132, and regular silica I bought that are collecting dust as I pick the heads off of Q-tips, LOL

 

[ltrainer]

Big fan here of organic cotton balls but have only used silica previously. Pull a small piece off the ball. roll it around between your thumb and finger, slide it in and cut the excess length off. Drip some juice on it or squonk then vape....mmmm...gooddd

 

[JC Okie]

.....and DON'T get the Mini....at LEAST get a Mini 2.1 or a Grand. Honestly, the Mini 2.1 is the same size as the regular Mini only it's maybe a quarter inch thicker. The original Mini will not even fit an RM2 unless you ask Rob (redeyedancer - the mod maker) to grind it down. You need to trust us all on this....either a Grand or a Mini 2.1. The 2.1 is just as pocket friendly as the Mini and the 18490 battery is WAY better for RBAs than the 14500 battery.

 

[Rymarski]

Honestly what I am worried about now is that once I pick up a reo grand and enjoy it I will probably get a mini as well or vice versa. This is exactly what happened when I picked up a provari. Then it happened with the high end mechs. Finally ill be left with a bunch of mods just sitting around

 

[Treebeard]

I forgot to mention one more important thing about cotton wicks....no more scratchy throat.

 

[Treebeard]

Honestly what I am worried about now is that once I pick up a reo grand and enjoy it I will probably get a mini as well or vice versa. This is exactly what happened when I picked up a provari. Then it happened with the high end mechs. Finally ill be left with a bunch of mods just sitting around

I have a grand and a mini 2.1 and this is where it stops for me. No more chasing the perfect vape. No more wasted money on pacific rim junk. No more tanks, cartos, etc. The only reason (or me at least) to get another mod would be a woodvil because they are so damn beautiful.

 

[super_X_drifter]

Honestly what I am worried about now is that once I pick up a reo grand and enjoy it I will probably get a mini as well or vice versa. This is exactly what happened when I picked up a provari. Then it happened with the high end mechs. Finally ill be left with a bunch of mods just sitting around

Bro, no worries. You'll so enjoy picking out your next, then your next etc...
Every time you order one, you'll get that excitement just like you did on your first one - except now you know. You know what's coming. That only makes it worse.

It's just a part of our lives that all REOnauts come to accept (or resign to). When something's this good, the instinct to hoard kicks in.

If any of those other mods are decent, you should have no prob unloading them on the classies.

 

[FogHawg]

I've tried em all except bamboo & ekowool. It's all resting quietly in my vape cabinet since I discovered cotton in my Reo/RDA. Thanks Russ!

EDIT: I think I do still have some XC116 in an Igo-L dripper. Now where'd I put that thing...

 

[unloaded]

I'm going to try this cotton setup but will also order some silica 2.5mm from Reo. I will probably pick up some XC-116 and Ekowool to compare each of them. If any of you guys have tried all of them, which one stands out the most?

The rolled cotton works great for me on my clearer juices. You mentioned Boba's and GJ, they didn't do as well for me with the cotton. The taste changed dramatically and the cotton was black after 1ml. I think it's filtering out the solids in the juice, altering the flavor and collecting in the cotton. I use the XC 132 for these juices and it does great with them. I get it kiln treated from bigtexvapor. It fits in a micro coil nicely and doesn't unravel like the 116 does.