Big price increase on unflavored Nicotine e-liquid base

Status
Not open for further replies.

markfm

Aussie Pup Wrangler
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jul 9, 2010
15,268
45,866
Beautiful Baldwinsville (CNY)
Nice, I'm going to look into that one. Thanks for the info.
With heartland, add 4 8oz amber glass bottles with caps to store the 100mg nic in, plus one random small cap, to reach $50.10 and free shipping.
 

Zaryk

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jan 25, 2018
2,535
7,237
Ohio
I like storing mine in 2oz Amber glass bottles. That way I can pull out one bottle of nic, make two 1L jugs of 3mg premix and have no excess opened nicotine left over. I store them in a storage box with dividers that the bottles are shipped in. Just makes things a little bit more simple, in my opinion.

When I place an order, I will buy some flavorings to get over the $50 mark. But I appreciate the advice.
 

Tabac man

Super Member
ECF Veteran
May 24, 2019
948
3,597
London
sounds like a deal, right?

That's funny and at the same time a bit sad how do they change prices according to the regulations.
Flav. e-liquids are getting banned in US here is an up to 90% off sale.
Unfl. nic. base +60% from the normal price for DIY.
Are flavors more expensive now too?

They were are trying to push the short fills as that's where their profit is. I understand that, I just ain't buying into it. As I said it's like paying more for a lighter because you don't buy cigarettes.

I only use Flavour Art flavours which haven't gone up in price. Price wouldn't seem to be a problem with concentrates though. Some cost the same as FA but need 10-20 % flavouring in a mix, suggesting a lot of folk are happy to pay for what they like.
 

englishmick

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Sep 25, 2014
6,578
35,768
Naptown, Indiana
They were are trying to push the short fills as that's where their profit is. I understand that, I just ain't buying into it. As I said it's like paying more for a lighter because you don't buy cigarettes.

I only use Flavour Art flavours which haven't gone up in price. Price wouldn't seem to be a problem with concentrates though. Some cost the same as FA but need 10-20 % flavouring in a mix, suggesting a lot of folk are happy to pay for what they like.

Chef's Flavours are like that. Expensive and you have to use a lot. But the cost per bottle of juice is still peanuts.
 

bombastinator

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Sep 12, 2010
13,326
26,528
MN USA
Chef's Flavours are like that. Expensive and you have to use a lot. But the cost per bottle of juice is still peanuts.
May be a different company in the EU than in the USA. I found the ones I bought to be chunky and a few contained oils. It was a grocery store purchase though. The bottles were tiny. Not gonna do that again.
 

englishmick

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Sep 25, 2014
6,578
35,768
Naptown, Indiana
May be a different company in the EU than in the USA. I found the ones I bought to be chunky and a few contained oils. It was a grocery store purchase though. The bottles were tiny. Not gonna do that again.

Chef's Flavours is a UK flavoring company. I get their vape flavoring from OSDIY. Maybe what you bought were from a different company. I can't imagine the Chef's Flavours stuff I get being available in US grocery stores.
 
  • Winner
Reactions: JCinFLA

ppeeble

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jan 9, 2013
1,026
3,231
59
Poole UK
Any company worried about stock would put limits on purchase amounts - a company who wanted to take advantage of peoples fears would jack up the price. We used to call that profiteering and businesses who did it would be derided and shunned by decent folk.
Now it's applauded.
Hey Ho.
 

bombastinator

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Sep 12, 2010
13,326
26,528
MN USA
Any company worried about stock would put limits on purchase amounts - a company who wanted to take advantage of peoples fears would jack up the price. We used to call that profiteering and businesses who did it would be derided and shunned by decent folk.
Now it's applauded.
Hey Ho.
Profiteering used to be a crime even in some situations. It was a big issue during the American civil war. There at least used to be laws against doing it to the military. Profiteering (business) - Wikipedia
Enron was famous for it. 1000% markups. They would have been arrested but got shuttled quietly out of the country to Dubai by the Bush administration.
 

Rossum

Eleutheromaniac
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Dec 14, 2013
16,081
105,232
SE PA
Any company worried about stock would put limits on purchase amounts - a company who wanted to take advantage of peoples fears would jack up the price. We used to call that profiteering and businesses who did it would be derided and shunned by decent folk.
Now it's applauded.
Hey Ho.
You want shortages of goods? Because that's how you get them -- by not letting prices rise to where supply can meet demand.
 

Oregon Linda

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 1, 2013
2,069
9,460
Salem, OR
Actually, I don't see a price increase on nicotine anywhere but MFS. Currently, Nicotine River, Heartland Vapes, and Nude Nicotine have the same pricing they have had for a long time. Liquid Nicotine Wholesalers is also in the same ballpark. So I don't see any reason to panic yet about pricing. Still, I would suggest filling your freezer with all you're going to need for the long haul.
 

Jazzman

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Dec 24, 2013
947
2,115
High Desert, CA
Just as a data point to other posts I've seen here, I will not buy nicotine from Heartland. 3 years ago I purchased 2 1L bottles of 100mg nic from them and the smell was really bad. It smelled like an ashtray from last night's party. It was just atrocious to me since I don't like tobacco smell and it seriously alters juice flavor. Maybe they are better now, but honestly I would never buy from them again since I had to properly dispose of that order and repurchase from Nude Nicotine, which still had a slight tobacco smell, but much more reasonable and consistent with what I had purchased in the past. If someone were a tobacco flavor vaper this might be a benefit, but not to me.

In the past year I have switched to salt nicotine from Nicotine River and along with the obvious benefits of being able to control the throat hit of juices (smooth and hit varieties. Nude Nicotine also has normal which emulates FB throat hit), it was virtually odor free. This is the cleanest nicotine I have purchased to date.
 

sonicbomb

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Feb 17, 2015
8,362
23,819
1187 Hundertwasser

fiddleshe

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Dec 11, 2013
3,432
15,142
Phoenix, AZ
Just as a data point to other posts I've seen here, I will not buy nicotine from Heartland. 3 years ago I purchased 2 1L bottles of 100mg nic from them and the smell was really bad. It smelled like an ashtray from last night's party. It was just atrocious to me since I don't like tobacco smell and it seriously alters juice flavor. Maybe they are better now, but honestly I would never buy from them again since I had to properly dispose of that order and repurchase from Nude Nicotine, which still had a slight tobacco smell, but much more reasonable and consistent with what I had purchased in the past. If someone were a tobacco flavor vaper this might be a benefit, but not to me.

In the past year I have switched to salt nicotine from Nicotine River and along with the obvious benefits of being able to control the throat hit of juices (smooth and hit varieties. Nude Nicotine also has normal which emulates FB throat hit), it was virtually odor free. This is the cleanest nicotine I have purchased to date.
My order from Heartland Vapes 2 years ago was odorless.
 

Dr. Seuss

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Jul 15, 2019
320
1,190
Just bought a gallon of 100mg from Nic River for $159

If it’s gotten to you, how did it look? Did they stall at all on the shipping speed?

Just as a data point to other posts I've seen here, I will not buy nicotine from Heartland. 3 years ago I purchased 2 1L bottles of 100mg nic from them and the smell was really bad. It smelled like an ashtray from last night's party. It was just atrocious to me since I don't like tobacco smell and it seriously alters juice flavor. Maybe they are better now, but honestly I would never buy from them again since I had to properly dispose of that order and repurchase from Nude Nicotine, which still had a slight tobacco smell, but much more reasonable and consistent with what I had purchased in the past. If someone were a tobacco flavor vaper this might be a benefit, but not to me.

In the past year I have switched to salt nicotine from Nicotine River and along with the obvious benefits of being able to control the throat hit of juices (smooth and hit varieties. Nude Nicotine also has normal which emulates FB throat hit), it was virtually odor free. This is the cleanest nicotine I have purchased to date.

I just got the same thing from VapersTek, the “throat hit” nic is pretty funky. As they say though, if it’s too good to be true etc.
 

Jazzman

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Dec 24, 2013
947
2,115
High Desert, CA
If it’s gotten to you, how did it look? Did they stall at all on the shipping speed?



I just got the same thing from VapersTek, the “throat hit” nic is pretty funky. As they say though, if it’s too good to be true etc.

The Hit I purchased from NicRiver really surprised me with the TH difference. I purchased a 125ml bottle just to try it and yeah, there was a lot of TH. I didn't like it much and prefer the smooth at 6mg/ml for myself, but I have a friend I mix for and he vapes 18mg specifically for the TH. I mixed up some 6mg for him with the Hit salt nic and he loved it and has been vaping 6mg with the hit salt ever since.

Everyone is different, you just have to figure out what works for you.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: Iron Molly
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread