bitter and tingling tongue and throat issues

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GBalkam

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I thought that's what you meant... yes lower ohms with that cable your vaping with and higher wattage , no doubt creates more of everything. Man 40g wire and 200 watts! That's some serious vaping... how much juice does that go thru? And what car battery do you use? Lol

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oh.. I wire it direct to the fuse box. :)
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how the heck do you vape 200W wow!
That is amazing and what's even more amazing is just how far vaping has come in just a few short years. Not all that long ago there was no regulated mod that could go over 15 watts. The Darwin by evolve was the first then provari and if you wanted more power then that, you stayed with your mech. But even with a mechanical mod, there wasn't any tanks that could really vape over 20 ish watts. Now 200 and more is amazing .

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how the heck do you vape 200W wow!
What you have to remember is it is the wattage that heats the coils. Wattage required is determined by the mass of the coils. For example, 6 wraps of 30ga kanthal requires not many watts to heat because it has very little mass. 6 wraps of 24 ga kanthal requires more watts because it has more mass.
Now when you start getting int dual, quad, hex and octa coil builds, you are adding more mass, therefore need more watts.
For example.. lets use 6 wraps, 24ga kanthal, 3.0 ID core
single coil requires 28w to heat to 285 mW/mm2 (warm vape)
dual coil requires 56w to heat to 285 mW/mm2 (warm vape)
quad coil requires 113w to heat to 285 mW/mm2 (warm vape)
hex *6* coil requires 168w to heat to 285 mW/mm2 (warm vape)

As you see, more coils = more wire = more mass so require more watts to power the build to maintain 285 mW/mm2 to sustain the same vape temp. (warm vape)
mW/mm2 is how we measure heat flux to gauge how warm the vape will be.

In this example I used the same wire, wraps, and core, just added more identical coils. Most people stick with single, dual or sometimes quad coil builds. But it doesn't take long to hit 200w, depending on which wire and gauge you started with. The same build using 20ga kanthal would require a lot more watts.

Mind you, this is a bit off the tingling tongue question, but since it was asked about 200W+... well..this is how. You should also note more coils = more cloud = more vapor and more nicotine if you use it per puff. Which is why we suggest people just coming off cigarettes to use smaller mods and smaller builds for smaller clouds, but higher nicotine mg. Most vapers using 18mg nicotine on a quad build (such as the one above) would literally choke on it, so as we build fancier, cloudier builds, we use less and less mg nicotine in the juice.
 
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Ah awesome thanks for explaining
So what is the main reason for making/using these types of setups?

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Well since the warmth of that vape can be obtained without doing all that and same with flavor, it's got to be purely for massive clouds.

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You are doing good. If you slip up, it is no big deal. Just get back to vaping as soon as you are comfortable.

My daughter and I quit smoking, cold turkey, almost 11 years ago. No support, no NRT, no nothing. We could not afford for both of us to smoke, and neither wanted to be the one to continue and tempt the other. The desire to smoke never left either of us. Almost 5 years ago, we were about ready to cave and start smoking again due to cravings and stress. My daughter had heard about ecigs somewhere. We looked into it. We hemmed and hawed. We finally tried it. We are still ex-smokers, thanks to vaping.

Take things one day at a time. Do what you can to avoid smoking, but if there is a slipup, do not beat yourself up over it. Count the times that you did not smoke. Keep researching equipment and nicotine, pg/vg ratios that may help you to give up smoking for good. Take your time before spending your money to research the equipment and eliquids that you are interested in trying.

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You are doing good. If you slip up, it is no big deal. Just get back to vaping as soon as you are comfortable.

My daughter and I quit smoking, cold turkey, almost 11 years ago. No support, no NRT, no nothing. We could not afford for both of us to smoke, and neither wanted to be the one to continue and tempt the other. The desire to smoke never left either of us. Almost 5 years ago, we were about ready to cave and start smoking again due to cravings and stress. My daughter had heard about ecigs somewhere. We looked into it. We hemmed and hawed. We finally tried it. We are still ex-smokers, thanks to vaping.

Take things one day at a time. Do what you can to avoid smoking, but if there is a slipup, do not beat yourself up over it. Count the times that you did not smoke. Keep researching equipment and nicotine, pg/vg ratios that may help you to give up smoking for good. Take your time before spending your money to research the equipment and eliquids that you are interested in trying.

You can do this, when you are ready. We are here to support you.

Very well said..........................some good points here to think about.........................
 
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You are doing good. If you slip up, it is no big deal. Just get back to vaping as soon as you are comfortable.

My daughter and I quit smoking, cold turkey, almost 11 years ago. No support, no NRT, no nothing. We could not afford for both of us to smoke, and neither wanted to be the one to continue and tempt the other. The desire to smoke never left either of us. Almost 5 years ago, we were about ready to cave and start smoking again due to cravings and stress. My daughter had heard about ecigs somewhere. We looked into it. We hemmed and hawed. We finally tried it. We are still ex-smokers, thanks to vaping.

Take things one day at a time. Do what you can to avoid smoking, but if there is a slipup, do not beat yourself up over it. Count the times that you did not smoke. Keep researching equipment and nicotine, pg/vg ratios that may help you to give up smoking for good. Take your time before spending your money to research the equipment and eliquids that you are interested in trying.

You can do this, when you are ready. We are here to support you.
Thank you this really helped once i stop pressuring myself the craving actually subsided! Thanks hope you and you family have a great xmas

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That is awesome. I know all about falling back into the stinkies. It happens. Just remember how nasty they taste after a single day of just vaping, how you notice smells more and how much better food tastes. I've been vaping for years now and have had my weak points. But, vaping never let's me down, it never judges you for slipping. Keep your head up and vape on. Enjoy the air.
 
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That is awesome. I know all about falling back into the stinkies. It happens. Just remember how nasty they taste after a single day of just vaping, how you notice smells more and how much better food tastes. I've been vaping for years now and have had my weak points. But, vaping never let's me down, it never judges you for slipping. Keep your head up and vape on. Enjoy the air.
Yep i hear ya i can smell again
Its bliss to walk in a park and pick up all the complex scents i have missed that
On another note i am a hypochondriac so i am now worried about pneumonia and reaearching into it in regards to vaping i guess its until i get used to anything new!

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The research that states of a proclivity to pneumonia with ecig use is widely skewed. They tend to cite the pg as the culprit. Mind you pg is a main ingredient in asthma inhalers and the research there doesn't really show an uptick in pneumonia cases.

There is a lot more scare tactic research out there sadly than there is of factual, scientific research.
 
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I have noticed that now i am back for the holidays with family who are smokers that the craving for analogues have increased , im still on around 4 cigs a day

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Keep at it, when they smoke, you vape. Also start building coils. It gets your mind off smokes. Worst case, you mess up so bad on the coil that you tie your hands up in the wire and can't smoke anyway. lol.
 
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The research that states of a proclivity to pneumonia with ecig use is widely skewed. They tend to cite the pg as the culprit. Mind you pg is a main ingredient in asthma inhalers and the research there doesn't really show an uptick in pneumonia cases.

There is a lot more scare tactic research out there sadly than there is of factual, scientific research.
Hard to say. I used to get pneumonia 2 or 3 times a year, but haven't had it or even a cold in the 9 months i've been vaping.
 

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Ah awesome thanks for explaining
So what is the main reason for making/using these types of setups?

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Well the main reason is the clouds, but you can also do custom builds for flavor. For example, 2x parallel claptons give more flavor than a single wire or single core clapton, but take more watts to heat. Simply put, the 2 core wires halve the resistance, and the lower the resistance the more power (watts) is required to heat it. The advantage, is the wires trap more juice, which gives more flavor. Plus, the wraps heat at a different temp than the core wires. Some people I have seen building flavor coils go totally insane, using 2, 3 or 4 heating stages, such as 3 nichrome core wires, wrapped in kanthal ribbon wire and then wrapped again with stainless steel, sometimes a zipper wrap. I can't do those, but i've seen them done on youtube.
lol I just managed my first set of parallel claptons.
By the way.. these get to be pretty massive, as you can guess. so any wrapped coil is a flavor build. A cloud build is single wire with huge surface area.
 
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