"Blowing clouds" and sub ohm vaping... Why?

[MiPaDo]

I go to my local Vape Shop and there teaching me how to wrap my wick in my genesis style Atty on my noble1.

He tells me I need to do a 2/1 wrap, drill my airhole out and "blow clouds"

I ask what that means and he proceeds to grab this Huge mod with huge tank on it. And Blow an ungodly huge cloud of vape at me... And all I could think of is... Why?

I'm sure the flavors have to be beyond muted at that amprege. And the throat hit ungodly. And while I'm far from a vaping expert. I know electricity and these battery's can't be made for that kind of use.

Anyway. Not judging, just want to understand.

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[Thrasher]

Anyway. Not judging, just want to understand.

so do a lot of us, the Pinoy modders started one uping each other on youtube and started this trend.

you can get excellent results doing a regular 4/5 wrap a around .8 to 1 ohms on a genesis/hybrid I see no other function of the storm clouds but to impress others or try to get nic sick lol airflow is important but a 2/1 ? i can not imagine much flavor at all with such limited surface contact at the same time literally cooking that little spot of wick where it touches.

in every hobby there will always be the enthusiast crowd that has to attain maximum results for no other reason but to prove they can.

no different then say the PC guys I know running liquid nitrogen and oil cooled setups pushing things with 4X the normal amount of voltage just to break some theoretical records that dont equate to real world performance, just for bragging rights.

if it is attainable some will always reach for it.

 

[JayTater]

The cloud production of my Reo with an itty bitty Phoenix RDA is more than enough for my taste. Definitely not up to the levels of some, but taste is my goal.

 

[Stosh]

Congratulations!! I do believe you get it!! Vaping that is...
If you can get good flavor, throat hit, vapor at normal levels, there is no reason at all to vape at sub-ohms. Unless you really want to see if all the warnings about battery safety were really true and your PV can explode...

I've been vaping about 3 1/2 years and the last coil I put in my IGO rebuildable is 5.0 ohms, running it at 6.0v, great flavor, vapor.

 

[WattWick]

I'm on the why-train as well. If one is chasing the feeling of inhaling something massive, why up the VG ratio and cut the nic strength?

Makes me wonder if it is all about looks?

 

[Revelene]

I low sub ohm vaping <3

Flavor is not muted, in my case, it is actually more profound. I use a unregulated mechanical mod with an AW IMR 18650 and tend to push around 27-35 watts at around 7-8 amperage which is way under the max amp load on the AW battery. No worries here.

 

[Revelene]

I'm on the why-train as well. If one is chasing the feeling of inhaling something massive, why up the VG ratio and cut the nic strength?

Makes me wonder if it is all about looks?

For some, yeah, it is all about looks. For me it is all about the TH and vapor production second. I like my blends around 70PG/30VG or 50PG/50VG.

 

[Jimi D.]

9 mg Tuscan Garden and DNB flavor. .4 ohm 50/50 PG VG = King Kong giving me a shotgun with a hand rolled cig ! Flavor, TH, and tons of vapor godliness !

 

[Thrasher]

one thing worth noting is many in the ultra sub ohm club who originally did this for performance reasons and not for looks alone - is many of them have moved on to the micro coils, with near similar or better results without the inherent dangers or equipment stress.

some will still like it though im sure.

 

[JayTater]

Micros are sooooooo 2012. I've got a 3/64 14 wrap nano in the Phoenix running at .8. The cap is so small that the coil is shaped in a partial halo LOL.

 

[NicoHolic]

Whether a coil is micro or not is independent of whether it is super-ohm or sub-ohm. A super-ohm micro coil may be considered by some to be as good as or better than a non-micro sub-ohm coil, but it pales in comparison to a sub-ohm micro coil.

 

[WattWick]

For some, yeah, it is all about looks. For me it is all about the TH and vapor production second. I like my blends around 70PG/30VG or 50PG/50VG.

That I can understand. I'm not too big on the TH myself, but I have no problem seeing that some need/want it.

For me, 50/50 on ~0.8 ohms is just perfect. That's hardly considered real sub-ohming, I believe. The reason I crossed the 1 ohm mark was not to make bigger clouds, but to make the same little fluffy clouds quicker.

 

[WattWick]

Micros are sooooooo 2012. I've got a 3/64 14 wrap nano in the Phoenix running at .8. The cap is so small that the coil is shaped in a partial halo LOL.

I thought it was the nano dragon-phoenix hybrid vertical inverted-wick setups that was all the rage these days.

Edit: Whups two posts that really should be one. Sorry about that!

 

[Stosh]

I low sub ohm vaping <3

Flavor is not muted, in my case, it is actually more profound. I use a unregulated mechanical mod with an AW IMR 18650 and tend to push around 27-35 watts at around 7-8 amperage which is way under the max amp load on the AW battery. No worries here.

I'm certain you're taking into account that each discharge / re-charge cycle particularly when you're stressing the battery (fast discharge) will change the internal resistance of the battery. This will change the performance capabilities of the battery, the chemicals inside the battery changes, the "off the shelf" specifications no longer apply.

 

[Revelene]

That I can understand. I'm not too big on the TH myself, but I have no problem seeing that some need/want it.

For me, 50/50 on ~0.8 ohms is just perfect. That's hardly considered real sub-ohming, I believe. The reason I crossed the 1 ohm mark was not to make bigger clouds, but to make the same little fluffy clouds quicker.

Forgot to mention that I also make my builds in dual coil setups... hehe. Sub-ohm dual coil setups are just a beautiful experience.

 

[Revelene]

I'm certain you're taking into account that each discharge / re-charge cycle particularly when you're stressing the battery (fast discharge) will change the internal resistance of the battery. This will change the performance capabilities of the battery, the chemicals inside the battery changes, the "off the shelf" specifications no longer apply.

Yeah, I forgot all the calculations but I have found to be in the "safe" zone as long as I do not make any setup resistance under 0.5 Ohms. I have a friend who is using a 0.1 Ohm dual coil setup on the AW IMR and I keep telling him that it is not safe... he might learn after his battery goes thermal.

 

[JayTater]

I thought it was the nano dragon-phoenix hybrid vertical inverted-wick setups that was all the rage these days.

Edit: Whups two posts that really should be one. Sorry about that!

Phoenix RDA doesn't have enough room on the deck to make a cotton bed and still be used as a bottom feeder on the REO. I have to build it as a conventional wick.

 

[dr g]

I'm sure the flavors have to be beyond muted at that amprege. And the throat hit ungodly. And while I'm far from a vaping expert. I know electricity and these battery's can't be made for that kind of use.

Wrong on all counts, so re-evaluate your position.

People do it because it's enjoyable.

 

[MiPaDo]

Wrong on all counts, so re-evaluate your position.

People do it because it's enjoyable.

This isn't roe v wade. Don't really have a position just trying to understand as I thought was made clear in OP



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[K_Tech]

People do it because it's enjoyable.

DING DING DING! That right there is the answer.

"Ungodly" throat hit is subjective. I'm only a few short months into vaping, and started out small. I didn't see the point of taking lung hits on a sub-ohm coil.

Until I did it.

If you can keep your wick wet enough, blowing clouds can be very enjoyable. For me, it's not something I'd do all day, every day (mostly because I'd go through a TON of juice, lol) but every once in a while I get the urge...

Clearo, carto, Genny, sub-ohm, nano-dragon coil, whatever floats your boat.

As long as it satisfies YOU, that's all that really matters.