The wire maybe not but the Cotton says so on the box. It is Sally Beauty salon coil 100% cotton made in the USA. A years supply or more for $3.29 I think it was. I like it better than the imported Japanese stuff. I had ordered 80 pads of the KGD cotton but got this and found I liked it better than the KGD so the wife unit is using the KGD as it was intended to be used. Makeup removal and such uses.
Cloud Chasers...
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I didn't think this was about everyone being down on cloud chasing, more like enough people being down on it so that opinion is observed often enough that it becomes noticeable. I honestly think it happens much more often than people being looked down on for flavor chasing, for tootle puffing, or anything else in vaping I can think of right now.
Battery safety concerns are perfectly valid, if the concern is real. It really has nothing to do with cloud chasing though, someone can overdraw a battery in almost any setup if they use the wrong one. I see a lot of people who think battery amp draw in regulated VW mods is affected by atty resistance and that it's obviously unsafe to run at 0.15 ohms on a Sigelei box mod. I saw one person who din't know that Ni coils are going to be very low resistance at best and thought that was dangerous because of the resistance. Then there are the folks who think that running high resistance in a high power box mod is obviously a better vape so why would anyone who knows how to vape properly want to use a 0.15 ohm build. I think these are typically people who have never tried it themselves but think they know because it seems 'obviously' correct to them and it will be a safer vape anyway so it's the right direction to go.
I've seen posts from these folks that includes things like 'why would you want to vape that way anyway' or 'it's all about the cloudz, right', or something along these lines that can seem to be quite negative on the way the person vapes, not just the perceived safety aspect of it.
The really unfortunate thing in my opinion is the bad information being passed around by people who think they understand how things work but really don't. The good thing is their advice is mostly wrong on the safe side, but it can go the other way too and get people in trouble. And bad information is, well, just bad. Why would we want to put that out there. But of course enough people have to know how things really work before this will stop.
So, yes, I think it's great whenever I see posts that are helpful and reasonably accurate and I'm happy there is some of this happening now. I hope the trend is this is happens more often, but it still has a way to go before it becomes the norm when someone posts they have a 0.10 ohm coil and ask if that's safe. I think threads like this one also help people be less judgmental and more accepting of other ways that people vape.
I also remember that thread in which someone complained about us being hateful and there were people they knew who left because of it. I thought that was a bit off the wall and ignored it
My $.02...
I am a "cloud chaser", in the sense that a massive, dense amount of flavor and vapor is what satisfies me and has kept me off cigs for going on 2 years. If somebody wants to judge me for that, then by all means go right ahead. I'll listen, then tell you to go about your business. I'll do me, you do you. As long as I'm not clouding up someplace where the masses wish to be cloud-free, I don't see a problem with it.
I blow huge clouds using RDAs and tanks. In fact, my newest driving setup is a Lemo that's built to 2.2 ohms (that's not a typo) with 10 wraps of 28ga on a 1/8" bit. Throw 20 watts at that sucker and you'd be surprised at the vapor output. Your build doesn't have to be super sub-ohm to chuck the vapor. But if you have educated yourself properly and have the correct equipment to do so, that's fine too.
Everyone just keep vaping and remember why we all started doing this in the first place, and vapers with different styles will get along just fine. (Jumps off soap box)
I am a "cloud chaser", in the sense that a massive, dense amount of flavor and vapor is what satisfies me and has kept me off cigs for going on 2 years. If somebody wants to judge me for that, then by all means go right ahead. I'll listen, then tell you to go about your business. I'll do me, you do you. As long as I'm not clouding up someplace where the masses wish to be cloud-free, I don't see a problem with it.
I blow huge clouds using RDAs and tanks. In fact, my newest driving setup is a Lemo that's built to 2.2 ohms (that's not a typo) with 10 wraps of 28ga on a 1/8" bit. Throw 20 watts at that sucker and you'd be surprised at the vapor output. Your build doesn't have to be super sub-ohm to chuck the vapor. But if you have educated yourself properly and have the correct equipment to do so, that's fine too.
Everyone just keep vaping and remember why we all started doing this in the first place, and vapers with different styles will get along just fine. (Jumps off soap box)
Thinking out loud here, no real post.
I said man, maybe they are right, have we gotten full of ourselves to the point we dont see it?
I wonder how these things are handled elsewhere, lets go look.
Ahh heres the exact type of thread Im looking for.
Noob askin about comp building not even sure what a mechanical is, first few replies are same as always. You need to learn a bit more before your down with that.
Someone came in and said you need to stop with the bs scare mongering over safety and just start helping and teaching maybe.
Other person basically did the give a man a fish or teach a man to fish routine which is how I feel- you need to learn whats going on not just do Something handed to you.
That thread then regressed into a pit fight, name calling, cursing, insults, words in mouth, the op disappeared, still going on right now Slinging insults and Name calling.
Is that really what people would like here?
Then my feelings changed, and I think no, trying to take that time to teach them is the right thing, if they dont like it they can go over there where some dont seem to care about safety, or understanding what your doing, as long as you got your answer cool by them.
Im not going to be part of that, Im going to sleep knowing I did my best to make vapors safe and knowledgeable. And they can call me whatever makes them feel better about themselves for staying put.
On a side note I see a new ecf deserter in the why I left thread, instantly getting insulted in a tiff with someone lol what a way to be welcomed onto another forum eh?
How hard is it to follow a few stupid rules, not like you can go to work or a restaurant and be a jerk there either.
I said man, maybe they are right, have we gotten full of ourselves to the point we dont see it?
I wonder how these things are handled elsewhere, lets go look.
Ahh heres the exact type of thread Im looking for.
Noob askin about comp building not even sure what a mechanical is, first few replies are same as always. You need to learn a bit more before your down with that.
Someone came in and said you need to stop with the bs scare mongering over safety and just start helping and teaching maybe.
Other person basically did the give a man a fish or teach a man to fish routine which is how I feel- you need to learn whats going on not just do Something handed to you.
That thread then regressed into a pit fight, name calling, cursing, insults, words in mouth, the op disappeared, still going on right now Slinging insults and Name calling.
Is that really what people would like here?
Then my feelings changed, and I think no, trying to take that time to teach them is the right thing, if they dont like it they can go over there where some dont seem to care about safety, or understanding what your doing, as long as you got your answer cool by them.
Im not going to be part of that, Im going to sleep knowing I did my best to make vapors safe and knowledgeable. And they can call me whatever makes them feel better about themselves for staying put.
On a side note I see a new ecf deserter in the why I left thread, instantly getting insulted in a tiff with someone lol what a way to be welcomed onto another forum eh?
How hard is it to follow a few stupid rules, not like you can go to work or a restaurant and be a jerk there either.
Well said, as usual, Ryedan.I didn't think this was about everyone being down on cloud chasing, more like enough people being down on it so that opinion is observed often enough that it becomes noticeable. I honestly think it happens much more often than people being looked down on for flavor chasing, for tootle puffing, or anything else in vaping I can think of right now.
Battery safety concerns are perfectly valid, if the concern is real. It really has nothing to do with cloud chasing though, someone can overdraw a battery in almost any setup if they use the wrong one. I see a lot of people who think battery amp draw in regulated VW mods is affected by atty resistance and that it's obviously unsafe to run at 0.15 ohms on a Sigelei box mod. I saw one person who din't know that Ni coils are going to be very low resistance at best and thought that was dangerous because of the resistance. Then there are the folks who think that running high resistance in a high power box mod is obviously a better vape so why would anyone who knows how to vape properly want to use a 0.15 ohm build. I think these are typically people who have never tried it themselves but think they know because it seems 'obviously' correct to them and it will be a safer vape anyway so it's the right direction to go.
I've seen posts from these folks that includes things like 'why would you want to vape that way anyway' or 'it's all about the cloudz, right', or something along these lines that can seem to be quite negative on the way the person vapes, not just the perceived safety aspect of it.
The really unfortunate thing in my opinion is the bad information being passed around by people who think they understand how things work but really don't. The good thing is their advice is mostly wrong on the safe side, but it can go the other way too and get people in trouble. And bad information is, well, just bad. Why would we want to put that out there. But of course enough people have to know how things really work before this will stop.
So, yes, I think it's great whenever I see posts that are helpful and reasonably accurate and I'm happy there is some of this happening now. I hope the trend is this is happens more often, but it still has a way to go before it becomes the norm when someone posts they have a 0.10 ohm coil and ask if that's safe. I think threads like this one also help people be less judgmental and more accepting of other ways that people vape.
I also remember that thread in which someone complained about us being hateful and there were people they knew who left because of it. I thought that was a bit off the wall and ignored it
Nevermind, I now know where the term came from. A pony. " My little pony ". Cute.
.... She's the real cloud chaser.
I would think its kind of self explanatory.
But email them temco should give you an answer.tell em your a concered customer and you would like to know where the kanthol comes from.
Ill tell you this though, in 4 years I have bought wire from all over the world, I have yet to see any that matches their quality and consistency. about a month ago I reupped several diff sizes in large spools. The day the package showed up I threw away several rolls I got from lightning vapes ( no lie) that's the last time, ever, I try anywhere else, I dont care if it's 2 bucks a mile, stuff was crap
I can wrap my standard coil without ever checking it using temco, whenever I do its exactly what its supposed to be
I ran into some ..... uhhhhh..... *cough* alternative MLP artwork a ways back, and have to say I cant quite see them the same way anymore. Lol
The term is perfectly suited for vapers who are always striving for bigger clouds ... I think whoever coined the phrase nailed it.
I was under the impression that the term cloud chasing was reserved for actual competition vaping? I'm not trying to oppress anyone or tell people how to vape, but one has to admit that vaping competitively is a bit infantile no?
Those silly cloud chasers...
If they would only learn that clouds need to be kept on leashes, they wouldn't be running after them so often.
If they would only learn that clouds need to be kept on leashes, they wouldn't be running after them so often.
Why? Because you don't do it, it's infantile?
I'm not a cloud chaser, though I enjoy a big vape cloud now and then... I'm not a tootle puffer, though I enjoy tootling now and then. I predominantly lay somewhere in between....regardless, I get so tired of comments like these. So judgmental of others who vape different, therefore must be wrong. EXACTLY the type of thing the op was posting about.
Those drag races, that's just infantile...my Honda civic is fast enough.....see how ridiculous that sounds?
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