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SissySpike

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Agree or not agree I give him props for trying to do a good job be through and entertaining
I just thought his rant about a drip tip was pointless on the Lemo
It's a drip tip if he don't like the one it comes with replace it and quit winning
When vases tip were in they put vase tips on
Same with straight ones short ones slotted ones
Maybe it's just me but a simple I do or don't like the drip tip would of been more than sufficient
 

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Soooo.... 'fess it up, whose car is this:

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looks like something Red Green would do
 
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I'll assume you're asking me, so...

His REO review was extremely short sighted and uninformed.

His nic test kit was full of fail including, but not limited to...

Using flavored juice
Using colored juice
Guessing at the nic concentration results from a lack of preparation
Not making suggestions on how to improve or speed up the process
Etc.

For just a couple examples.

He used to do better than he has been lately. Used to be my favorite reviewer because I could count on him having figured out pretty much everything that counts with hardware and if I bought the same gear I would invariably end up agreeing with his conclusions. Lately I find I have to be more careful to interpret his opinions more and after seeing the reviews you mentioned above and a couple more like that, I'm aware just how far off he can be now. It's a shame because he is one of the most technical reviewers out there and I really appreciate that.
 

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I have no problem with people doing what is considered "cloud chasing". What I have a problem with is people not knowing what they're doing, not reading or understanding Ohm's Law, not understanding the safe limits of their battery, and having no consideration to the safety of themselves or others.

To give an example, I was at an event yesterday at my local shop, and was going to enter into a cloud competition in the "Anything Goes" category. I have a custom built parallel 26650 box that had a great build on it, in the 0.14 ohm range, that was producing rather well. Along comes a kid, ready to enter in the "Tube Mod" category with an aluminum Manhattan clone and a Mutation X v2 with a 0.04 ohm nichrome build. As he's sitting there at my table, he said that he had to set his mod down after each draw because it was too hot. I, as well as others, tried to explain that he built way beyond the safe limits, and was in the insane group. He looked at me like a deer in the headlights of a truck when I tried to explain the limits of his battery. That was when I withdrew from the competition and left. The chances of him blowing his mod up and injuring himself or others didn't seem to bother him much...just so long as he beat someone else. It's idiots like him that gives vaping a bad name.

My daily vape is one of my two Sigelei 150 boxes with either a 0.4 ohm kanthal build in a Troll, or my Starre tank. Both produce clouds larger than what were seen in competitions this time last year, and are much, much safer than those that are pushing the limits today.
 

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I don't have a problem with any form of vaping only rude, obnoxious and arrogant vaping whether they are chucking clouds or a wisp it just seems to be people with clouds in that group lately IN MY experience. Once vaping has a solid legislative platform assuming vaping is still allowed anyone can vape how they like.
 

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He used to do better than he has been lately. Used to be my favorite reviewer because I could count on him having figured out pretty much everything that counts with hardware and if I bought the same gear I would invariably end up agreeing with his conclusions. Lately I find I have to be more careful to interpret his opinions more and after seeing the reviews you mentioned above and a couple more like that, I'm aware just how far off he can be now. It's a shame because he is one of the most technical reviewers out there and I really appreciate that.
I call it rockstar syndrome
Lately he seems to be more interested in his next appearance then his next review.
Im not trying to put him down, love the guy, helped me a ton, even had some cool correspondence with him back in the day.
But you can def see the change
 

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I call it rockstar syndrome
Lately he seems to be more interested in his next appearance then his next review.
Im not trying to put him down, love the guy, helped me a ton, even had some cool correspondence with him back in the day.
But you can def see the change

I can happen to the best of 'em.

I still love him tho.
 
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I call it rockstar syndrome
Lately he seems to be more interested in his next appearance then his next review.
Im not trying to put him down, love the guy, helped me a ton, even had some cool correspondence with him back in the day.
But you can def see the change
This exactly. He is extremely popular (in the world of vaping), and he knows it. As a result, IMO, his ego and attitude are beginning to reflect that.
 
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I have no problem with people doing what is considered "cloud chasing". What I have a problem with is people not knowing what they're doing, not reading or understanding Ohm's Law, not understanding the safe limits of their battery, and having no consideration to the safety of themselves or others.

To give an example, I was at an event yesterday at my local shop, and was going to enter into a cloud competition in the "Anything Goes" category. I have a custom built parallel 26650 box that had a great build on it, in the 0.14 ohm range, that was producing rather well. Along comes a kid, ready to enter in the "Tube Mod" category with an aluminum Manhattan clone and a Mutation X v2 with a 0.04 ohm nichrome build. As he's sitting there at my table, he said that he had to set his mod down after each draw because it was too hot. I, as well as others, tried to explain that he built way beyond the safe limits, and was in the insane group. He looked at me like a deer in the headlights of a truck when I tried to explain the limits of his battery. That was when I withdrew from the competition and left. The chances of him blowing his mod up and injuring himself or others didn't seem to bother him much...just so long as he beat someone else. It's idiots like him that gives vaping a bad name.

My daily vape is one of my two Sigelei 150 boxes with either a 0.4 ohm kanthal build in a Troll, or my Starre tank. Both produce clouds larger than what were seen in competitions this time last year, and are much, much safer than those that are pushing the limits today.
Right, and lately around here if you did the same thing, they get all upset and claim we are attacking them for being cloud chasers. Storm off, and rant on other forums about how oppressive ECF is to anyone not tootle puffing or friends with the mods lol
 

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He used to do better than he has been lately. Used to be my favorite reviewer because I could count on him having figured out pretty much everything that counts with hardware and if I bought the same gear I would invariably end up agreeing with his conclusions. Lately I find I have to be more careful to interpret his opinions more and after seeing the reviews you mentioned above and a couple more like that, I'm aware just how far off he can be now. It's a shame because he is one of the most technical reviewers out there and I really appreciate that.
A darn shame, really.

He's the reason I bought my first mvp. The first one is the reason I bought the next 3. He was spot on vice the fact they fixed the stiff button issue. Great little devices. All 4 still kicking today.

As far as opinion goes... Mine is the only one that matters to me.

Tapatyped
 

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Its funny, this threads about why is everyone down on cloud chasing. Yet since the thread started several cloud chasing and subohm help requests have rolled through new members and I see everyone piling on trying to help. What tank, what wire, good batteries, which mods, links to steam engine. Help with coils.


Wheres all this hate these threads keep talking about? Your going to judge all of us based on what a select few express as their opinion?

Didnt we have this thread about a month ago? Someone telling us how hateful we were that people they knew left? yet they couldnt provide links to more then 1 or 2 very vocal people?
 

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And the first ejuice which still sells millions. And the vast majority of the vaping hardware market today. I do not think I use any non China made hardware at all. And I think the same is true with the majority of vapers in the world.

Ohh wait my Kanthal wire and my cotton are US made.
i will bet you they are not.
sourced from USA suppliers,maybe.
made here probably not.
mike
 

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Right, and lately around here if you did the same thing, they get all upset and claim we are attacking them for being cloud chasers. Storm off, and rant on other forums about how oppressive ECF is to anyone not tootle puffing or friends with the mods lol
Have you seen what was said about me? [emoji38]

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I have no problem with people doing what is considered "cloud chasing". What I have a problem with is people not knowing what they're doing, not reading or understanding Ohm's Law, not understanding the safe limits of their battery, and having no consideration to the safety of themselves or others.

To give an example, I was at an event yesterday at my local shop, and was going to enter into a cloud competition in the "Anything Goes" category. I have a custom built parallel 26650 box that had a great build on it, in the 0.14 ohm range, that was producing rather well. Along comes a kid, ready to enter in the "Tube Mod" category with an aluminum Manhattan clone and a Mutation X v2 with a 0.04 ohm nichrome build. As he's sitting there at my table, he said that he had to set his mod down after each draw because it was too hot. I, as well as others, tried to explain that he built way beyond the safe limits, and was in the insane group. He looked at me like a deer in the headlights of a truck when I tried to explain the limits of his battery. That was when I withdrew from the competition and left. The chances of him blowing his mod up and injuring himself or others didn't seem to bother him much...just so long as he beat someone else. It's idiots like him that gives vaping a bad name.

My daily vape is one of my two Sigelei 150 boxes with either a 0.4 ohm kanthal build in a Troll, or my Starre tank. Both produce clouds larger than what were seen in competitions this time last year, and are much, much safer than those that are pushing the limits today.
i am just saying. ...
when you and your knowledgeable brethren make your builds right up
to the maximum safe operating limits with all the caveat's concerning
safety,why to you wonder why some one would exceed those limits to beat you?
i think drag racing went through this phase a long time ago.
mike
 

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i will bet you they are not.
sourced from USA suppliers,maybe.
made here probably not.
mike
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Its funny, this threads about why is everyone down on cloud chasing. Yet since the thread started several cloud chasing and subohm help requests have rolled through new members and I see everyone piling on trying to help. What tank, what wire, good batteries, which mods, links to steam engine. Help with coils.


Wheres all this hate these threads keep talking about? Your going to judge all of us based on what a select few express as their opinion?

Didnt we have this thread about a month ago? Someone telling us how hateful we were that people they knew left? yet they couldnt provide links to more then 1 or 2 very vocal people?
I'm not sure where the idea is coming from that this thread is claiming that everyone is down on cloud chasing. I agree that it is just a few posters who are vocal about it.....and apparently so does the OP, as this is the first sentence of his original post; "Ive noticed a bit of a backlash against chasing clouds from a few posters."
 

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i am just saying. ...
when you and your knowledgeable brethren make your builds right up
to the maximum safe operating limits with all the caveat's concerning
safety,why to you wonder why some one would exceed those limits to beat you?
i think drag racing went through this phase a long time ago.
mike

There's a difference between skirting the safe limits and being insanely stupid with safety. This is why I won't even attend a competition as a bystander now without having a set of rules that are enforced...battery and ohm build for instance.
 
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I'm not sure where the idea is coming from that this thread is claiming that everyone is down on cloud chasing. I agree that it is just a few posters who are vocal about it.....and apparently so does the OP, as this is the first sentence of his original post; "Ive noticed a bit of a backlash against chasing clouds from a few posters."
I see it. its not only battery safety talk either. I think some higher ohm vapers are annoyed by sub ohm vapers. This is especially the case in the forums i frequent including this one.
 
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