Blu Cigs released a VV battery?!

[KY_Rob]

Wow! Do you guys really want this? You're willing to trust a BT company to provide you with something "new"? Remember, these are the same folks that said (probably still do say) that analogs aren't harmful.

I've already heard that Phillip Morris is in the process of developing a battery-free disposable e-cig. The vapor is produced by only a chemical reaction. Do any of you think for one second this thing will be any better than an analog? A chemical based device from a company that's told us for years to trust them for decades, while getting us addicted and pumping ourselves and the air around us full of carcinogens...no thanks, I'll pass.

 

[MaDeuce]

Blu being owned by a company that also produces cigarettes is going to, or already has, raised big giant, waving red flags and it will give the opponents of e-cigs much needed ammunition in their fight against us. That's right, I said "us". Once people associate e-cigs with BT, the die will be cast for the vilification of ALL e-cigs. It's called guilt by association and the way to rid the e-cig industry of that stigma is to boycott Blu to the point that their parent company finds them unprofitable. We as consumers have more power than we realize and if you think that's false, google the civil rights movement and the changes brought about by their boycotts.

 

[tj99959]

Do you really think that BT is stupid enough to put out a potentially dangerous product like VV?













think about it

 

[LaciJ]

No.

I'm not handing anymore of my money to a big tobacco company. I'm not helping them pay for whatever regulations they want on the ecig industry to suit their own bottom line. If other people want to do that, fine. But, I just won't participate.

 

[SilentEcho13]

They'll come out with an ego battery most likely.

It'll be new.

People will think it's different from regular ego's and buy it.

It'll be the same thing in the end.

 

[eratikmind]

I enjoyed my experience with Blu while it lasted. The whole time, I knew that there had to be a better platform.

 

[2corbies]

It's interesting that this thread has become at least partly a commentary on people's feelings about Blu, and their relationship with the BT company Lorillard. . .

Anyway, I don't think it's likely that Blu would put out a variable voltage device. It wouldn't match their business plan, which seems to be making ecigs accessible to the mainstream. And, if they did, I probably wouldn't buy it. I'm not (yet) in a place where I feel like buying every new toy just to test out, so I'd prefer to get the best quality for the best price, and that's not likely to be Blu. And like LaciJ said, I'm not giving a cent to BT if I can help it.

I think the relationship between Blu and Lorillard is a double-edged sword. It's bringing ecigs into public view, and bringing the power of a major established company into the game. But BT is a dangerous way to go mainstream, both for image and for the sake of users' health. I trust some random guy on the street corner more than I'd trust Lorillard. I'd rather figure out how to build my own mod than use a product made by a company that's already proven their willingness to systematically kill their customers for a profit.

 

[PhreakySTS9]

Blu being owned by a company that also produces cigarettes is going to, or already has, raised big giant, waving red flags and it will give the opponents of e-cigs much needed ammunition in their fight against us. That's right, I said "us". Once people associate e-cigs with BT, the die will be cast for the vilification of ALL e-cigs. It's called guilt by association and the way to rid the e-cig industry of that stigma is to boycott Blu to the point that their parent company finds them unprofitable. We as consumers have more power than we realize and if you think that's false, google the civil rights movement and the changes brought about by their boycotts.

Yet at the same time, something many people still don't realize today, is that we NEED Big Tobacco on our side. BT is the ONLY lobby we have big enough to give Big Pharma a serious fight. We need their money and connections, whether you like it or not. I sure don't, but hey I'd rather cast our lot in with Big Tobacco and have a fighting chance than stand alone against Big Tobacco AND Big Pharma and get steamrolled before we even hear the word go. Big Tobacco is NOT our enemy right now, at least not nearly as much so as BP (as CRAZY as that sounds), Big Pharma and the FDA is!

 

[tj99959]

Yet at the same time, something many people still don't realize today, is that we NEED Big Tobacco on our side. BT is the ONLY lobby we have big enough to give Big Pharma a serious fight. We need their money and connections, whether you like it or not. I sure don't, but hey I'd rather cast our lot in with Big Tobacco and have a fighting chance than stand alone against Big Tobacco AND Big Pharma and get steamrolled before we even hear the word go. Big Tobacco is NOT our enemy right now, at least not nearly as much so as BP (as CRAZY as that sounds), Big Pharma and the FDA is!

We would be far better off if we make the FDA our friend instead of our enemy. So what we should be discussing is how do we get the FDA on our side instead of trying to close us down.

 

[DC2]

We would be far better off if we make the FDA our friend instead of our enemy. So what we should be discussing is how do we get the FDA on our side instead of trying to close us down.

I take it you don't believe in the idea that the FDA is already bought and paid for by Big Pharma?

 

[tj99959]

I take it you don't believe in the idea that the FDA is already bought and paid for by Big Pharma?

Now you know what we need to change Companies like Blu & Johnson Creek can be leaders in that fight.

 

[MaDeuce]

Yet at the same time, something many people still don't realize today, is that we NEED Big Tobacco on our side. BT is the ONLY lobby we have big enough to give Big Pharma a serious fight. We need their money and connections, whether you like it or not. I sure don't, but hey I'd rather cast our lot in with Big Tobacco and have a fighting chance than stand alone against Big Tobacco AND Big Pharma and get steamrolled before we even hear the word go. Big Tobacco is NOT our enemy right now, at least not nearly as much so as BP (as CRAZY as that sounds), Big Pharma and the FDA is!

Siding with the devil you know versus the devil you don't always sucks.

 

[Caridwen]

If our goal is to try to convince and make a case to the general public that vaping is not smoking and/or a healthy alternative to smoking I think it's an extremely poor idea to align ourselves with a universally loathed and mistrusted industry (definitely by non-smokers) like the tobacco industry. It was the first thing one of the ANTZ brought up during the hearings. JMO

 

[Butters78]

Maybe they'll have Stephen Dorff breakdance in the commercial.

 

[PhreakySTS9]

If our goal is to try to convince and make a case to the general public that vaping is not smoking and/or a healthy alternative to smoking I think it's an extremely poor idea to align ourselves with a universally loathed and mistrusted industry (definitely by non-smokers) like the tobacco industry. It was the first thing one of the ANTZ brought up during the hearings. JMO

Well if you know of a way to shut down Blu and other companies made by Tobacco Companies, yet keep their money, power, influence and connections on our side I'm all ears. I could understand if we had openly extended a hand to companies like Blu and there was some form of alliance made between CASAA and Big Tobacco or something, but they are going to fight to keep their product legal, no matter what we do. I'm not saying we should propose an alliance or something, I'm just saying they're going to do what they do and it will also benefit us. No way we can stop them..

 

[OptimoMuffin]

There are many valid points here.. I don't want my money going to Lorillard either, but think about this...

At some point, if all tobacco companies had some kind of electronic cigarette company and actual tobacco started to die, they could still be making a profit from electronic cigs. Right now, e cigs aren't big enough to pull in the bucks that analogs do. But if they started to, and say, Marolboro owned Johnsons Creek and some hardware company, they could start to care less about shutting down e cigs and start to focus making their money on electronic cigarettes until it gets to a point where analogs and e cigs switch places.

Will it happen? Probably not, and if it does it will be a LONG time. But its something to consider.

And by the way, I'm not just saying what if Blu released a VV I'm saying what if Blu put out ANYTHING other than small 510 bats. I mean look at past Blu products... its changed a lot since then and I just think its possible.

 

[DC2]

If Blu put out an Ego-sized battery and encouraged people to refill cartridges themselves, our troubles would be over.
I can see them putting out an Ego-sized battery maybe, but encouraging users to refill themselves is extremely unlikely in my opinion.

Regardless, anything that Blu does to increase it's customer base and create new vapers is a VERY good thing for all of us.

 

[OptimoMuffin]

If Blu put out an Ego-sized battery and encouraged people to refill cartridges themselves, our troubles would be over.
I can see them putting out an Ego-sized battery maybe, but encouraging users to refill themselves is extremely unlikely in my opinion.

Regardless, anything that Blu does to increase it's customer base and create new vapers is a VERY good thing for all of us.

Thats what I'm sayin!

 

[jeffbarrera]

Just kidding, they didn't. But look at what I saw...

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If Blu released ego style batteries, VV's, mods, tanks, or something advanced... Would you try it?

Just out of curiosity.

I would try anything that has VV!

 

[BostonVape]

Funny... i saw a Blu commerical this morning with Stephan Dorff in it??!?!?

I don't watch much TV so this might be old news.. but it was the corniest commercial ever!!

(and honestly don't think i've seen him in anything on TV since Blade lol)