Blu Troubles
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I've noticed at some sites that even eGos and the like are starting to come down to the $40, $50 mark so yeah the l88bs are ridiculous. Frankly the l88bs are already a generic model, the only real difference is the branding. This bleep is all generic product made in China, all of it should be much cheaper than it is.
I'd honestly be interested in finding out the price mark-up on e-cigs. It's gotta be pretty big when I see posts about people buying like 5 atties for $7 directly from China. The Blu/Volcano carts probably cost a quarter for each 5-pack to produce.
Awesome. I am expecting the new supplies to arrive on Wednesday or Thursday so I will let everyone know how they do. Honestly, the classic tobacco prefilled from blu are doing much better now that I know better how to care for my vaping supplies.
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I've got to give credit where credit is due, Blu has one heck of an advertising team. I read on the forum somewhere that they did 30 million in business last year. Don't know how true that is, but even if it's close, that's a lot of e-cigs.
Yeah, I know it's all from china, and it should all be less expensive to buy, but you can find all kinds of 510s and Egos, and probably others too(I'm not up to speed on my model numbers yet and probably never will be). I've only really seen 2, maybe 3 L88Bs, and every one of them is called something else. I understand why. I mean, Blu and Volcano sound better than L88B. The sidesho looks like one, and so does the revolver elite, but I don't think they are. But anyway, there's no greatly discounted(compared to others on the market) L88B without ordering from China.
I'm sure the markup is RIDICULOUS. Take a look at Tasty Vapor and Volcano. Volcano sells their 510 starter kit, branded as Magma for $80. It includes 2 batts, one atty, a PCC, and 25 carts(that's another thing that bothers me too, some places are making a killing on the pre-filled carts). Tasty Vapor, on the other hand, sells their 510 kit for $25. The only difference is it comes with 5 carts, 2 atomizers instead of one, and no PCC. But for another $20 or $25 you could get a PCC. Other than the carts, that's HALF the price for the same thing + an extra atty. Obviously Tasty Vapor is making profit(unless it's some sort of clearance price), which means Volcano must be making an insane profit. If Tasty Vapor's $25 kit is not that price due to clearance, then that tells me an L88B should probably cost $15 or $20 at the most. I see DISPOSABLES at that price. The 306 might already count as one, but I think Joye should make an L88B equivalent/killer so whenever someone comes here saying they want to buy a blu, we can point them in another direction that'll give them basically the same thing they're looking for without making them pay for all that marketing.
Speaking of the 306, how come I don't really see it mentioned all that much as an alternative to blu/volcano? I always see the 510 and the Ego/Riva/LUX/Inferno/Tornado/whatever the heck else its' called get plugged when someone says they hate their blu, but rarely the 306. I can deal with the 510, but I wouldn't want to go any bigger, and I could see why the size and weight would make it more difficult to forget you're not smoking a cigarette or get used to vaping... I'm just curious to know why not many ever mention the 306. Is it a POS or something ?
No one ever recommends a super mini. So no one will say get a 306. Super minis such as blu and 306 have very little battery life and really small carts. So that is the main reason people suggest a 510 (mini) or something larger like an ego. Also most people prefer to drip so they want a manual battery which isn't offered on super minis.
So you don't have a problem with the blu product, just the blu company. Sounds like some bad product to me.
I Think you just trying to convince yourself that you made a good choice and didn't blow your money.
So I am going to keep "Blu Bashing" as you put it. I call it giving my honest opinion that best thing you can do with a blu kit is send it back for the full refund and chalk it up to a learning experience.
And no I wasn't exaggerating about the atomizers. 4 days after my kit arrived I had 4 more (2 packs of 2) atomizers on order because I had nothing to vape with.
As i said I am sure it was my fault for burning them dry, I was only get 20 to 30 hits tops before they were tasting burnt. I just couldn't believe they were empty though.
Actually they were not empty when you looked at them, just that the end was dry and the fill was burning I think.
It looks like I didn't do my research well enough though because I guess I could have got some cartomizers to fir the blu batteries.
That would have been great. Actually that really what they should be marketing for beginners anyway.
I like the batteries I love the charging pack. Just to me it was un-usable with the attys and foil carts. Plus it would have cost me a lot more than I was planning based on their estimate of juice in the carts.
I am glad you like it, but there is no need to get upset when other people don't like it.
For the record if anyone else ever asks about their blu I will give the same advice as I did here. Send it back for the refund if at all possible.
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I have to agree when I started with my Blu I had the same issues. I did get attys and blank carts from Volcano. They fit the Blu great and the Volcano attys actually produced more flavor/vapor. Maybe even pick up some inexpensive juice samples from places like freedomsmokeusa until you find a flavor you like and fill your own carts. Ends up a little cheaper anyway.
Also - if you like your Blu in general and it works for you - no need to 'jump on the band wagon' and get a 510 just because it seems the most used. People always forget: vaping like smoking is a personal preference, not a 'one size fits all' thing. That's why there are so many types and models out there. I've tried the 510 manual - did NOT like it and I was a pack a day smoker for 20 years before vaping. My preference was the Sidesho auto battery because it felt more 'natural' to me and the vapor/flavor/th/battery life was great for me.
You may experiment with a few different models, mods and juices but the best thing of all is -- you'll find the right one for you and NOT be smoking analogs anymore. Good luck
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Also - if you like your Blu in general and it works for you - no need to 'jump on the band wagon' and get a 510 just because it seems the most used. People always forget: vaping like smoking is a personal preference, not a 'one size fits all' thing. That's why there are so many types and models out there. I've tried the 510 manual - did NOT like it and I was a pack a day smoker for 20 years before vaping. My preference was the Sidesho auto battery because it felt more 'natural' to me and the vapor/flavor/th/battery life was great for me.
You may experiment with a few different models, mods and juices but the best thing of all is -- you'll find the right one for you and NOT be smoking analogs anymore. Good luck
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I like this post. It is more of what I think we should be doing... where I think this thread should go. Instead of Blu Bashing, let's try and look at different ways of getting the most out of the Blu packs that we got. I will probably go with a 510 when I have the money but, for now, I got the 510's cartos and some juices. Other people have suggested the 306 and 510 attys and carts. Other people have better success with the Volcano attys and carts.
This is really how I think we can best help people like me that got sucked into the Blu advertising and invested my money. There are several other threads out there for Blu Bashing and that is fine, I really needed help and the bashing wasn't helping. Luckily, many people had great advise in between the bashing. ;-)
Anyway, I will let everyone know how the cartos worked for me once they arrive.
This is really how I think we can best help people like me that got sucked into the Blu advertising and invested my money. There are several other threads out there for Blu Bashing and that is fine, I really needed help and the bashing wasn't helping. Luckily, many people had great advise in between the bashing. ;-)
Anyway, I will let everyone know how the cartos worked for me once they arrive.
I have to agree when I started with my Blu I had the same issues. I did get attys and blank carts from Volcano. They fit the Blu great and the Volcano attys actually produced more flavor/vapor. Maybe even pick up some inexpensive juice samples from places like freedomsmokeusa until you find a flavor you like and fill your own carts. Ends up a little cheaper anyway.
Also - if you like your Blu in general and it works for you - no need to 'jump on the band wagon' and get a 510 just because it seems the most used. People always forget: vaping like smoking is a personal preference, not a 'one size fits all' thing. That's why there are so many types and models out there. I've tried the 510 manual - did NOT like it and I was a pack a day smoker for 20 years before vaping. My preference was the Sidesho auto battery because it felt more 'natural' to me and the vapor/flavor/th/battery life was great for me.
You may experiment with a few different models, mods and juices but the best thing of all is -- you'll find the right one for you and NOT be smoking analogs anymore. Good luck
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The thread went a tad off topic, sorry.
I just read on the Volcano forum that they will be getting cartomizers for their models sometime this week, I'm sure one of the mini-Volcano ones would fit on the Blu.
I think you'll enjoy cartos, especially for your first e-cig experience. They truly are very easy to use and refill, I wish I had had your foresight when I first got into this.
Hopefully if volcano does make cartos for their l88b they will be CE2 type cartos.
Ok so all day I have been using a lr 306 on my blu almost exclusively. I think if you go with a higher nic juice than what you usually vape, you could really make this set up work. I've been using the cart as well not even dripping. I don't have to keep puffing like I used to. So with a 3 second drag I get a full vape. very satisfying. LR attys are not for beginners though. The battery lasts almost an hour. I only have to refill once. So i get 2 carts from one batt. This was a fun experiment for me. i don't think i would want to be out and about fiddling with this thing though. I hate pcc's.
Ok so all day I have been using a lr 306 on my blu almost exclusively. I think if you go with a higher nic juice than what you usually vape, you could really make this set up work. I've been using the cart as well not even dripping. I don't have to keep puffing like I used to. So with a 3 second drag I get a full vape. very satisfying. LR attys are not for beginners though. The battery lasts almost an hour. I only have to refill once. So i get 2 carts from one batt. This was a fun experiment for me. i don't think i would want to be out and about fiddling with this thing though. I hate pcc's.
So you're telling me that a few bad apples means the whole bunch is bad? First of all, that 1 PCC and 2 batteries were out of 3 PCCS(bought 2 kits and an extra pack) and 6 batteries(also bought 2 spare batteries). I didn't get a kit that was completely defective. Secondly, the product, the L88B, when made and working properly, works just fine. That's what I'm saying. The manufacturer should be checking better what they send out, and Blu should be doing the same. Have you ever gotten a computer part that didn't work or anything else that didn't work how it was supposed to? Did you ever exchange it for another, or did you just say "screw this, give me my money back, this couldn't possibly be a slight error on the part of the company" ?
They replaced the defective parts, and I had other non-defective parts that proved to me that the defective ones were not a good representation of how the product actually is. And regardless, I now have working parts. They were replaced for free, so what's all the fuss about? You even admitted that destroying your atties was your own fault. The lie about how long a cartridge and battery lasts is a fault of BLU the company. They're the ones making the claims, not the PV itself or the company that actually manufactures the parts.
If you notice, most people who like the blu recommend that you use some decent juice(note: decent juice does not include the ones that come in the pre-filled carts) at the very least, and preferably blue foam or a drip tip. I hate the blu pre-filled carts just as much as you do, and I'm well aware that they're a ripoff. That's why I don't buy them. It would be nice if people would quit spouting all the BS about being unable to drip with an automatic battery. I've been doing it for almost exactly a month with ZERO problems. Since I got my drip tip, I've been almost exclusively dripping with it. I don't even know when I last actually used a cart.
Regardless, enough of the bashing, at least in this thread, if you can't stop everywhere else. Is that difficult? The OP even said himself, he posted this thread for advice and help to make the best out of what he had, not for bashing(or your opinion). And anyway, it's not Blu's fault you couldn't figure out how to use their product right. It works fine in the hands of those who could.
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from what I understand the 306 is the blu. so you don't need to buy any you already have them. the only way I could use my blu was to remove the cup from the cartridge and drip on the atty or use a 510 carto. filling the tiny cup inside the cart was way to much trouble and tasted horrible. I still use the blu for dripping when trying diy flavors but thats about all it's for now.
I haven't read everything to know if it has already been said but the juice you buy isn't determined by the ecig you have just your taste. myfreedomsmokes has some good juice at a really good price. blu uses Johnsons creek in the carts and they are an acquired taste not many like it.
I haven't read everything to know if it has already been said but the juice you buy isn't determined by the ecig you have just your taste. myfreedomsmokes has some good juice at a really good price. blu uses Johnsons creek in the carts and they are an acquired taste not many like it.
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Unfortunately they seem to be 510 cartos but they are the ceramic ones. 5 for $10, which isn't bad because they have a rewards system.
http://www.volcanoecigs.com/cartomizers.html
For a "name brand" I will say that they're damn god at keeping their products fresh and updated.
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The 306 and blu are different. They look almost the same but perform drastically different. But they are both super mini's.
306 on left blu on right.
Okay, so if their performance is drastically different, my question still stands... Why don't people recommend the 306 over the blu instead of just telling them to forget super minis all together? To me, blu is a mistake because of how expensive it is compared to other things. I did a tiny bit of searching and found 306 kits for $35. You wouldn't save much over a 510, but at least you don't spend $60 on a blu that way, and you still have your nice little convenient PV.
It seems odd to me that someone would come in here and say "i'm thinking about buying a blu," or "I just bought a blu," and the response they get is "screw blu, get an ego," or "send it back and get a 510/ego. Don't even open it." What I can't understand is that if someone had the blu in mind(especially if they mention they've looked around at other models and want something that feels/looks like a cigarette), WHY would you tell them to get an Ego? Obviously if they were looking at blu, they want something small. It would only make sense to recommend trying the 306 if they insist on something that small. Now this has gotten me curious about the 306. It's too bad there isn't like some kind of e-cig convention where you can just go and try out a bunch of different models to see which one you like best.
It seems odd to me that someone would come in here and say "i'm thinking about buying a blu," or "I just bought a blu," and the response they get is "screw blu, get an ego," or "send it back and get a 510/ego. Don't even open it." What I can't understand is that if someone had the blu in mind(especially if they mention they've looked around at other models and want something that feels/looks like a cigarette), WHY would you tell them to get an Ego? Obviously if they were looking at blu, they want something small. It would only make sense to recommend trying the 306 if they insist on something that small. Now this has gotten me curious about the 306. It's too bad there isn't like some kind of e-cig convention where you can just go and try out a bunch of different models to see which one you like best.
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The common complaints of blu are small carts that don't last long or function well and really short battery life. pretty much all super mini's have the same issues. So it would be the same problems just better vapor production.
When I first started with blu, I was a member of the blu forums. They were the absolute worst. Nobody would give any real help, they would all just tell you to forget the blu and get a revolver elite. For some reason they were all over the revolver reps jock. That's how I found ecf and became a member here. Here at ecf is where I actually received help and was able to learn all about e cigs and not just the stupid overpriced revolver crap.
A few bad apples ????? Huh, bye your numbers 33% of your items were defective !! Thats TERRIBLE ... are you insane ?
Your doing a better job of making my point than even I can. Thanks.
...Actually, they sent me a working pack to replace the bad one, making the total of PCCs 4. 1 out of 4 is 25%, not 33%. The batteries were replaced as well, and 3 other spares were purchased from volcano, which makes it 2 out of 11, or just under 20%. Then there's the fact that every single atomizer(we both purchased 2 extras, which makes the count 8) works perfectly fine.
4 PCCs plus 11 batteries plus 8 atomizers plus 2 wall chargers plus 2 USB chargers = 27 items, 3 of which were defective... 3 out of 27 is 11%. Roughly, that's 1 out of 10, and that's only a TINY sample of the whole. 11 =\= 33.
4 PCCs plus 11 batteries plus 8 atomizers plus 2 wall chargers plus 2 USB chargers = 27 items, 3 of which were defective... 3 out of 27 is 11%. Roughly, that's 1 out of 10, and that's only a TINY sample of the whole. 11 =\= 33.
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