to me I think you're on the right track. besides running you said you were doing the stationary bike, and as long as your body has your blood flowing better due to a raised heart rate from the cardio you'll keep progressing. Again, as long as your heart rate is up no matter what form of cardio you do (stair mill, bike, tread mill, incline walks, jogging, running etc) you'll drop weight. If you hit a "plateau" just switch up your diet, alot of people think its their training that makes them hit a plateau but the human body has no idea if youre doing a dumbell row, running fast or slow, pec dec, bicep curl etc. your body just knows when its "working". so basically keep your training as challenged as possible and if you hit a "plateau" just switch up your diet, play around with your carb intake and you'll always see a difference. plenty of sleep and continue to vape those smokeless nights away
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yeah, those circuit training routines can really over train the body especially when doing it day after day - i agree. I've dropped weight for a "pre contest" like season just keeping my heart rate up and I didn't jog one day. ever since I started vaping i've been less dreadful doing cardio (stair mill or incline tread mill walk) if its your diet just play around with your carbohydrate intake (do not take carbs completely out of your diet) and keep vaping - you'll see results
don't get flavorless BCAA 
no matter what you mix it with you can taste the pure form of BCAA and it's not pleasant nor does it mix well. Try finding a source that sells that supplement in bulk. Most vitamin stores will have a months worth for 30-50 bucks (brand names such as: BSN, BPI, ON, Gaspari etc) try searching on dpsnutrition.net. you can find 4-12 months worth of it for 50 bucks or a little more (better than 30-40 bucks for 30 days worth) keep your squats conditioned and powerful it's good for overall health and growth (blood flow) keep up your hard work and stay vaping.
no matter what you mix it with you can taste the pure form of BCAA and it's not pleasant nor does it mix well. Try finding a source that sells that supplement in bulk. Most vitamin stores will have a months worth for 30-50 bucks (brand names such as: BSN, BPI, ON, Gaspari etc) try searching on dpsnutrition.net. you can find 4-12 months worth of it for 50 bucks or a little more (better than 30-40 bucks for 30 days worth) keep your squats conditioned and powerful it's good for overall health and growth (blood flow) keep up your hard work and stay vaping.
I spend about 2 hours at my gym daily. I know this is off topic but since I'm there for a while, I've noticed how the guys are really into looking at themselves in the mirrors. 
It cracks me up! Old, young, fat or fit, they all do it. LOL!
It cracks me up! Old, young, fat or fit, they all do it. LOL!no pro takes methamphetamine, let alone they wouldn't become an IFBB PRO nor would their career would excel if they began using after they got their pro card. Methamphetamine itself raises cortisol over the roof, and all of the things associated with methamphetamine like not eating or sleeping just add to it. Not to mention the damage being done to your dopamine receptors. Studies have shown that methamphetamine use permanently effects the ability of the user to feel pleasure as well as decreased cognitive function and motor skills. Some of these abilties can come back if methamphetamine is discontinued as the brain repairs itself. But not always. These studies, unlike the flawed ones involving ...., are well documented. And remember that even the .... studies that reported Ecstacy to leave you brain looking like Swiss chess were actully conducted with methamphetamine. Therefore, no pro uses methamphetamine as a pre workout it's scientifically not optimal nor do they take 6 shots of insulin in one day, if you take a look at an insulin needle (which your druggie friends in North Carolina might have) no pro takes more than 18IUS of insulin in one day. They only use insulin on training days. It's funny that you actually think 250 mg of Test or 8 Ius of GH is worse than smoking a cigarette. If a pro seriously told you he took methamphetamine for a pre workout he was probably trying to get an ignorant troll like you out of his face. I dont care much AAS you take, methamphetamine does not make a Bber optimal for growth.
im pretty sure I know this is ECF, and im also sure that in my OP I made clear that this thread was to explain the benefits of VAPING and Exercising vs smoking cigarettes and exercising but you would be too ignorant to know that. Who say's "decent amount of macronutrients" not every one can use 40/20/15, every ones body is different and can be complimented ONLY with a SPECIFIC CALCULATED SET macro due to their current weight, height, fat percentage, sometimes age, (off season or pre contest)
im pretty sure I know this is ECF, and im also sure that in my OP I made clear that this thread was to explain the benefits of VAPING and Exercising vs smoking cigarettes and exercising but you would be too ignorant to know that. Who say's "decent amount of macronutrients" not every one can use 40/20/15, every ones body is different and can be complimented ONLY with a SPECIFIC CALCULATED SET macro due to their current weight, height, fat percentage, sometimes age, (off season or pre contest)
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imagine if they weren't joking and they were to ban e-cigs for that reason they would have to ban people living in the Mile High City: Denver, CO for living in high altitude (reason to larger organs) most people from that city can breathe better than most people in different states or countries especially if they were to go to the Dead Sea - people from Denver touring the Dead Sea might just pop (like a deep water fish swelling up on the surface of the water) lol. Good thing the doctors said that jokingly
im convinced that you'll perform much better in any activity and good to hear that you do hookah (0 nic) or vape an hour before and after any physical activity. I recently was burned out on stimulants, even a medium roast coffee tweeks my body like no tomorrow I actually think im borderline allergic to caffeine which is unfortunate but there's nothing wrong with a little self motivation and being driven with deep focus. Keep up the vaping and exercising.
thanks Razorback. BCAA's is a traditional supplement bber or not, any athlete would benefit their body performance with BCAA's supplemented in their diet. As for Test boosters and other bogus items, I would say THOSE are a WASTE. As for synthol... that should ONLY be used on lacking muscle groups and with professional supervision (coach) or you'll end up like Greg Valentino or Markus Ruhl going to TOWN with that stuff. But Weizenheimer knows what it takes to be an IFBB, so I guess his Methamphetamine protocol would be optimal for overall performance results. Watch, one day someone will have a BCAA (flavored) e-liquid 100% VG - I hope, that'd be crazy. Keep vaping.
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Seann, I'm looking at the BCAA capsules. 30 day supply for roughly $5.00 Check out Swanson vitamins, that's where I get a lot of my vitamins/supplements. There and Wal-Greens.
Check out RSP Nutrition Regen. It's their BCAAs. I've been lifting daily for over a year now. Keep all my fitness related stuff on Instagram. Hit it up. STLfit
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BCAA's are known (as I just researched) to lower blood sugar. More benefit than just keeping the body from robbing the muscle bank. I taks a lot of supplements, so not a big deal to add one that might have a bit of benefit. Especially as cheap as BCAA appears to be.
... and I've been to bodybuilding.com, IMHO there are a lot of nice folks there, with the occasional Weizenheimer...
Synthol. That's the stuff that makes your muscles swell up, but no additional strength, right? That stuff is crazy stupid.
Where are you in NC? I used to live in Charlotte.
So eat some food with protein in it and have bcaas floating in your blood all the time...
My nic on bb.com is Determinednoob although I don't really log in there anymore.
I Live in Wake Forest
@exnihilo Yes but my best total is only 980 (405/350/225)
My performance has deff got better since quitting analogs. By far. Ive done p90x 1 and 2, as well as the insanity program, doing them again together has never felt so good since i quit.
Btw whoever said circuit training was overtraining is wrong, body building and cardio dont mix too well to begin with for obvious reasons.
Btw whoever said circuit training was overtraining is wrong, body building and cardio dont mix too well to begin with for obvious reasons.
I'm far from a body builder, and far from being in shape as far as that goes! But I have a paper route that I do in the morning that I like to trot between houses, just enough to break a sweat and get the heart rate up some. In the 3 months I've been vaping, and the last 3 weeks that I have been analog free, I have noticed WAYY better endurance, no pains in my side, no real bad shortness of breath and I go much further at a shot than what I used to do 4 or 5 months ago. Still tippin the scales at 240, but better than the 256 I was at at my last Dr.'s appointment. Think it can only get better from here! (says the 45 year old while sitting here drinking a non light beer!)
hahaha i'm 45 and 290lbs, been lifting for half my life. I had smoked all this time and still got decent size but was never really able to cut too much, yes i have a crappy ... diet. Since i have stopped the analogs 2 weeks ago, i do notice i get a better pump. But then again i am using a new nitric oxide my buddy started making. He owns a real manufacturing company that makes protein, bcaa's and a few other things. I am hoping getting off the analogs i can get some better cardio and maybe this year finally shed some fat!
So, I made the switch almost about a year ago and I've noticed that not only did my overall endurance and stamina increased but my muscles looked much more fuller kind of like I blew up a little bit. Which is a good thing, unfortunately I could've made this switch three years ago but I didn't really like the impression of a eGo which is a very popular PV in my city, and personally I didn't like the small amount of vapor coming out of them. I had no idea there were so much more MODS out there, until I vamped on my friends VAMO V2 which was a very good impression. Sure enough my next paycheck went straight to the VAMO V3 after watching more reviews..which I shouldn't have gotten because the 510 center pin connection popped out of the chip within a week of ownership. So then I bought my ProVari v.2.5. ONLY BECAUSE I wanted something that would be DURABLE and my research told me Silver Bullet and Provari were very durable. Call me a fan boy but I am very fortunate for my ProVari and Kayfun (my all day MOD)
Anyways, if I had known about all these different high end MODS, AND SUB OHM I would've been vaping three years ago. For anybody who is into Bodybuilding: figure, bikini, physique, 212, open class etc I would highly recommend they make this switch for it will compliment their physique so much better. For those on the forum please share your experience with how much vaping changed your performance and results from your training and dieting.
Nicotine + bodybuilding = still much better than smoking real cigarettes.
During weight training depending on which muscle you're working, the goal in weight training is to fully contract the muscle (mind to muscle connection) from the positive contract to mid contraction and then the stretched contraction. The reason for that "pump" in the muscle is due to the increased blood flow through that muscle which the fibers are tearing. The blood carries oxygen that were distributed from your lungs. Obviously the more oxygen in your blood flowing through a working muscle leads to a greater "pump" and therefore oxygen also benefits the growth factor of the muscle. Smoking cigarettes lowers the oxygen count in your blood which therefore makes the muscles endurance decrease in overall performance, then the muscle won't look the way it is supposed to and smokers probably think "well I can just take a creatine and Nitric Oxide supplement to help me get a better pump and still smoke cigarettes). NO, they should all just imagine doing all that and either quit or make the switch and just imagine how MUCH BETTER it would be for their results and overall health. Others will argue "so, e-cigs still contain nicotine which still lowers the count in oxygen in your blood" - yes, nicotine in e-liquid still has that effect but not even half as bad as smoking analogs. If they were determined enough they would gradually lower their nicotine level until they like vaping at 0% nicotine or they can know a thing or two about sub ohm vaping using 100% VG with 0 nic. So that is why I made the switch, so i can one day atleast say that I tried my hardest to be an open class competitor in the IFBB (International Federation of Body Builders) - set aside from all the other substances involved in bodybuilding (anabolics will not be discussed in this forum, vaping benefits only)
- You avoid 4000 other toxins from analogs
- there is 100% VG juices (from a good vendor if you find one that you like) which can eliminate the nicotine effect
- Sub ohm vaping with 0 nic can still give you a warm and good enough throat hit (if you build right and find the right e-liquid for you)
- You don't have to blame cigarettes for your plateau (which only exists if you're a natural)
- it's still promoting BETTER health
Thank you for reading and feel free to respond, I would love to read about everyone's experience in how much they performed physically better from making the switch to vaping.
Great post!
I too lift weights and do cardio and have noticed a HUGE difference in performance. My weight lifting routines do not kill me anymore and cardio is 100x better, for obvious reasons. I'm doing things I've never had the wind to do and performing better than I ever have in my life, at 40 years old. I doubt I will ever quit vaping because now, I have the best of both worlds.
Edit: Forgot to add, this year long cut I have been on has been way easier since I quit. I would have never made it this far if I had not quit smoking. It's all thanks to vaping.
I am just starting on my weightlifting journey FYI... I've been quit smoking over a year now and the time is right. I too own a Provari and it is great. I also like the eVic as well.
I'm starting a program for beginners called "Starting Strength." All compound exercises 3 times per week.
Day 1 - Monday (Set A)
3 sets - 5 repetitions = Squats
3 sets - 5 repetitions = Bench Press
1 sets - 5 repetitions = Dead-lift
Day 3 - Wednesday (Set B)
3 sets - 5 repetitions = Squats
3 sets - 5 repetitions = Standing Military Press
3 sets - 5 repetitions = Barbell Rows
Day 5 - Friday (Set A)
3 sets - 5 repetitions = Squats
3 sets - 5 repetitions = Bench Press
1 sets - 5 repetitions = Dead-lift
I'll alternate each week (A,B,A) (B,A,B), etc... I have to add 5 lbs to each lift each time I workout until I plateau... then back-up and get another running start at it until I break the plateau. Repeat as necessary.
As well, I'll add in a few curls until I can do real pullups and Dips.
Lastly, I will do a quick vape in between sets for good measure.
Hopefully there is more than 2 of us here on the ECF... I bet more than you might think!
It's always nice seeing another starting strength person. I've turned countless people on to Rip's books and advice over the years. Great resource for anyone interested in lifting weights. Rip coached me when I got out of college and showed me how to actually get big and strong. Got a rack and lifting platform in my garage that gets used all the time.
As to vaping and lifting weights, hasn't bothered me yet. I was a dipper before but smoked the occasional cig. So far no problems in the gym from vaping.
I do not work out but I work at FedEx. The first part of my shift is rapidly lifting various weights. Usually tween 800-1000 packages in a few shirt hours. The second part of my shift is clearing jams and patrolling the lets and rollers that the building uses to direct all the packages. That part is mainly cardio running around up stairs and ladders. I stopped smoking a month ago as I can already motor aside eer in stamina as muscle endurance. I've lost an additional 10 lbs since I quit ontop if the 60 ls I lost working there since July.
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