boge cartomizers / LR / Joye cartomizers drastically different it seems

[xiotaki]

k so I bought, my 510 from cignot and I also got some of the cartomizers available on that site, and they seem to be very different from the usual boge cartomizers you see mentioned on here, and on most video reviews that I've seen on the subject.

I actually liked the slightly longer, plastic ones from cignot, but being that everyone was always talking about the other, simpler style of metallic cartos I went ahead and ordered a 5pack of boge normal resistance, and also a 5 pack of LR's. Well long story short, I am totally unimpressed with the metallic boge ones. the norml resistance ones seem virtually worthless in comparison to the cignot plastic ones. The LR's atleast seemed on par with the ones from cignot , but lets face it, that's a little embarrassing don't you think?

So I'm guessing, either these plastic ones are fairly new in the market and not so many people know about them, or I am using the boge ones completely wrong in some way.

Anyone else with more experience with cartos and have tried both types can shed some light on my findings?


ps
in case someone is wondering, I use a 280mah 510 battery.

 

[Nomoreash]

I don't know if embarrassing is the right word. The Boge LR is 2 ohm and the regular version is 3 ohms which is better for higher voltage vaping. They are made for 2 different voltages your 510 just doesn't produce enough voltage to get the full potential out of the 3 ohm version. I use the 3.0 at around 5v and they perform great at 3.7v or even slightly lower with your 510 they are lifeless as you experienced.

 

[xiotaki]

thx for the reply... the weird thing is, the plastic ones measure the same resistance as the higher resistance ones from boge yet they perform noticeably better. plus, your reply is a source of confusion for me since the website I baught the two diff. types of boges made it look as if the normal resistance ones where the correct ones for the 510, and that the LR's where meant for bigger batteries, such as the eGo's. SO what are the proper cartomizers I need to be using with a 280mah, let alone smaller 220 mah. and for that matter, what would work bets on an eGo battery, if I choose to upgrade?!

Also the higher res. ones where not really, 3.0 but more like 2.7 both plastic ones and the metallic ones.... only the LR's where about 2.2ohms

 

[hairball]

Cartomizers and atomizers are like shopping for an all day vape. It boils down to what YOU like and what works for YOU and YOU only. I love Boge cartos, ego mega dual coil, 1.7ohm resurrectors, and Ikenvape.com's mega 510's in both resistances. Now my favorite of all if the 801 Fusion by Ikenvape but if you're using 510 threaded devices, you'll need an adapter. I doubt you're doing anything wrong...you just prefer another brand of carto which is perfectly fine. If cignot's cartos keep you from smoking, stick with them.

 

[Nomoreash]

Your 510 and bigger batteries like the Ego produce basically the same voltage. Their may be slight variances but they are all pretty close to your 510. The difference in the bigger batteries like the Ego is the mah rating which means you'll get MUCH longer vaping time with them in between charges. I think what was probably meant by what you read was the bigger Ego type batteries can handle the 2.0 version better because lower ohms will drain your battery faster and the regular 510 doesn't provide that long of vape time in between charges to begin with.

So both the 2.0 version and 3.0 version will perform basically the same on both type batteries. The 2.0 will just stress and drain the battery faster. I definitely wouldn't recommend going under 2.0 on that batter and 2.0 is pushing it but it should hold up if you don't chain vape it.

When you get into higher voltage like a 5.0 regulated mod or a variable volt mod that you can adjust the voltage on is where the Boge 3.0 version will start to shine.

I have no experience with the other carto your referring to but the design and placement of the coil plays a roll also. It's probably a different than the Boge vertial coil design.

 

[xiotaki]

ah yes, as a matter of fact I did open a plastic one up, and they actually have a small coil at the very bottom by the battery end, and there is this small tube that connects to an upper chamber where the mouth cap is...there still is a polyfill in there but it seems that the overall design of these is very different from the simple top cap and center vertical coil of the metallic ones... anyway thanx for your informative reply! it seems that the ego wont give me what I want... might need to go higher up on the voltage. Don't get me wrong, the 510 is doing a good job keeping me from smoking, but I think I might have the hobbyist bug

 

[DaveP]

I use Boge 2.0 LR cartos with my Ego batts and they are the best vape I have found. I also like the CE2 clearomizers in standard resistance.

I haven't tried the Joye cartos from Cignot due to the general preference from users that the Boge is better. Next time I go to Cignot, I'll have to order some. No issues with the Boge, though. I like them better at Ego 3.4v than at the Riva 3.7v with most juices. One of these days I'll break down an buy a VV mod. I'm waiting for prices and quality to stabilize.

 

[dormouse]

Well

1. LR cartos are for batteries 450mah+, not for slim ecigs. So they may be getting the current they want and you could be damaging your batteries

2. What is the PG/VG of your juice? Must be some reason you don't like the most popular cartos for 510 threaded devices. Either that or you are right and everyone else is wrong

 

[xiotaki]

hey sorry for the late reply, but I have tried various diff. e-liquid mixes. One for instance is pg/vg 65/35 from nite lite

and if you have not used the cignot cartos you can't really compare. I would love for someone else other than me to try them, that way I don't feel like I'm crazy!

 

[dormouse]

You pointed out LR cartos. Those can damage slim 510 batteries which is is why I don't use them on slim 510 batteries. I will keep the Cignot LRs in mind for my 450mah+ 510 threaded models (Riva 510 and 3.7v mod boxes and Ego clone 3-stage battery).

 

[xiotaki]

they (cignot) are not LR's they measure in at 2.7

 

[dormouse]

Ahh - that would be nice. And fine on slim 510. Surprised they call them LR (you had LR in your title). LR is usually used on stuff under 2.5 ohm, typically stuff 2.2 or less

 

[tj99959]

Put your 3ohm Boge's on one of these, and then report back to us.

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[xiotaki]

k just to clarify:

I tried Boge 2.7, Boge 2.2, Cignot 2.7

these are ohms I have measured on them myself!

as far as I know cignot doesn't have LR alternatives.

 

[rwnielsen]

I use Boge 2.0 LR cartos with my Ego batts and they are the best vape I have found

+1 As good as dripping when they're new

 

[thenut]

Hi xiotaki
I'm not entirely sure what's going on in your case, but I ordered some Boge "LR" 2 ohm cartos...(and their 3 ohm Cartos too for the heck of it).
I also have some standard Cignot Cartos (which are actually genuine Joyetech Cartomizers), and the difference is like night and day for me...in favor of the Boge's.

I was amazed at the draw and the vapor, etc, with the Boge using the same 80/20 Juice. (I should mention though, this is on a standard eGo 650mah Battery). I also have a standard 510 battery and I find the Boge to be better. As has been mentioned, the 2ohm cartos shouldn't be used on the small pen style 510, because of the low mah on them, but the "3 ohm" like you tried seem to work just fine on that one too.

The other thing is, the two cartos are a drastically different design. On the Joye cartos, you actually have to puncture a small hole in the plastic fill hole underneath TWO top caps, and fill it with a syringe (at least according to the Cignot site), and for me that's a real pain in the neck. (It's been said that you can use the "condom" method on the Joyes as well, and I've even tried it, but others have said that the ONLY proper way to fill them is with a syringe).
I like the simple soft tip on the Boge. You just pop if off, tip the carto, and drip directly out of the bottle along the edge of the carto until they're filled...and you can also look straight through the middle of them to be sure it's clear sailing, another feature I like. (On the Cignot Joye Cartos, you can't look through the center hole, because of their design).

Anyway, I like the Boge on my eGo so much, I just ordered another 15 pack of them. I also found the Cignot Joye Cartos to get clogged up a lot faster, and there didn't seem to be much I could do about it...I've already chucked two of them in the same amount of time my Boge's are still going strong. (I don't know...go figure).
Hope one way of another, everything works out to your liking, whatever you choose to use.

 

[xiotaki]

hey, finally someone who has tried them! And I hear ya, I wish the boges worked for me because they seem so much simpler to deal with. but again you're using an ego battery not a slim 280 or 220 and for whatever is worth your liquid's VG percentage is significantly lower.

As for filling them, you can just syringe the battery side! Anyway I'll just remain an outcast on the subject until I upgrade my battery which I wont be doing unless these die out...cheers

 

[xiotaki]

Hmm, is it possible that my boges are not really boges? they have no writing on them what so ever...just a black tube. I got them from nitelitevapor

 

[atom48]

Hi xiotaki. The Joye 510 cartos came out last year, I believe. My friend and I used them exclusively until about a month ago. Got them from Cignot and LiteCigUSA. They WERE great! However, then I started having issues with them. They just wouldn't last. Whereas before they would last me around 4 days (and my friend, about 3 weeks) we both found they were clogging in about 2 days (or less). It wasn't our juice, as we've also used the same juice for that period of time. Something about the Joye510 cartos has definitely changed. I think it might be the filler. We also always filled them by dripping drops into the battery end, with considerable success...no syringe needed.

Short story long, I've now tried a number of different cartos (both bottom coil and vertical coil) and switched to the Boges LR cartos with much better results. I tried the Boge SR, and they were very poor on the eGo. (Re Your question--The Boges standard resistance cartos generally do not have any writing on them, whereas the LRs are usually marked as LR 2.0)

I found that filling the Boges with the condom method (using Psaurdo's method: condom method) works best. Also, using a drip-tip with the Boge LR also helped to increase the performance (rather than just the little white cap).

Good luck on your search.