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Boost technology in a regulated mod; who can explain how it works?

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  1. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    As the title says, who can explain how boost technology in a regulated mod works? I have a hunch that it involves PWM (pulse width modulation), but I can't explain how that works either.

    Explain it to the dumb noob.
     
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  2. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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  3. ScottP

    ScottP Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 9, 2013
    Houston, TX
    I saw the title, and was thinking this might be my longest answer to a question yet. I didn't even think about posting a link. Thank goodness for Wikipedia.
     
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  4. Asbestos4004

    Asbestos4004 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 11, 2013
    Sugar Hill, Georgia
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  5. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Arthur C. Clark's Third Law:

    "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
     
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  6. AzPlumber

    AzPlumber Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 28, 2011
    Arizona
    Magic

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  7. Jwaterski

    Jwaterski Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 27, 2013
    OKC, OK
    I'm still lost on the Baditude and dumb noob!! Is the next thread going to be about honest politicians?
     
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  8. CMD-Ky

    CMD-Ky Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    KY
    "Honest politicians" will be a very short thread.
     
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  9. bombastinator

    bombastinator Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    Depends on how tightly one defines honest, but both parties have more than one would expect. Which party you think has more generally defines which you belong to.
     
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  10. listopencil

    listopencil Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 28, 2017
    In Partibus Infidelium
    When you depress the fire button a small stick inside the mod pokes the angry pixies. If you turn up your V/W higher then it pokes them harder. They get mad and flap more quickly. If you toggle the switch higher/lower a lot then the angry pixies buck and boost around inside the mod, hence the terms. Just be careful not to do it too much or you'll let the smoke out.
     
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  11. Letitia

    Letitia Therion/Nano Junkie ECF Veteran

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    @Baditude when you figure it out please come back and dumb it down for me.:)
     
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  12. mcclintock

    mcclintock Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 28, 2014
    The simplest way to understand it is a transformer, depending on how many wraps of wire are on each side it can convert low to high voltage or vice versa, with a corresponding change of current so it doesn't violate conservation of energy principles. Of course a transformer only works on AC signals and also there are simpler circuits, but they all essentially convert it to AC in some way and obey conservation of energy.
     
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  13. CMD-Ky

    CMD-Ky Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    How tightly one defines honest? Interesting concept, when honesty becomes a fluid concept, we are finished.

    Neither party has enough honest people to be worth the powder to blow them up.
     
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  14. untar

    untar Ultra Member

    Feb 7, 2018
    Germany
    A fast switch generates little pulses that get pumped ahead through a diode (check valve) by the special property of inductors (e.g. a coil made of copper), the resulting pulses on the other end get stored in a capacitor (little battery) and are "flattened out" to a continuous signal by another capacitor (or set of caps). To really get into it can be complicated since it involves good understanding of the interaction between electricity and magnetism, that's essentially the mechanism that makes this work.
     
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  15. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

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    I think Basically what is going on is you have a Switch that can Open/Close Very Fast.

    And as the Switch Opens/Closes, the input Volatge alternates from making a Magnetic Field in an Inductor to being in Series with part of the Inductor. It when the Voltage is in Series that the Increase of Voltage occurs.

    But Nothing is Free conservation of energy-wise. So to get more Volts, you need to give up something. And that something is Amps. So you are Basically Trading Amps to get Volts.

    I just kinda have a 5 Mile View of what is going on. So maybe someone with More Knowledge can explain it better.
     
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  16. Letitia

    Letitia Therion/Nano Junkie ECF Veteran

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    West Frankfort, IL
    Thank you, almost get it.:lol:
     
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  17. untar

    untar Ultra Member

    Feb 7, 2018
    Germany
    I substituted "amplified" with a little better formulation that's more correct in a technical sense, that should make it easier [​IMG]
     
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  18. bombastinator

    bombastinator Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    The system is currently set up in such a way that “truely honest” people are simply completely unelectable. If pushed far enough there aren’t even very many honest people in the world, period. One generally has to settle for less honest or more honest.
     
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  19. Coastal Cowboy

    Coastal Cowboy This aggression will not stand, man! Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    You have a little thingie that pushes. If it can't push hard enough, there's another thingie that stores some of the push. Then the first little thingie pushes again and the second little thingie stores some more again. After a certain number of pushing and storing, there's enough push to move something as far along and as fast as it needs to be moved.

    If the stored up pushing is so much that the third thingie moves too far too fast, the second thingie doesn't ask for as big of a push the next time.
     
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  20. Letitia

    Letitia Therion/Nano Junkie ECF Veteran

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    You sir are my hero.
     
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