Bought my first mod. Not impressed.

[keha]

I saw a HUGE jump in ease of use when I switched from a regular old 510 to a ego and then to ego-twist.

But I don't see what the fuss is about with mods... I bought a mvp2.0 baby mod if you will. I just do not see any difference in how it works, beyond the battery lasting 2-3days of regular use(which is nice).

But I was expecting more VAPOR and more warmth. But I got neither. Flip side it's allowed me to rebuild my own coils, since it checks ohms. Which was why I got this one to begin with.

I used the iclear30 it came with, works fine but works same if i put it on my ego-twist.... I used it on my evods, same results as my ego-twist... Used a protank 1 and 2, same result as my ego twist.... Used a igo-l RDA, same results as my ego-twist. I've used coils ranging from 1.3ohm to 3.2ohm(I will say the 3.2 worked better with the mvp2 at higher settings versus burning my wicks with lesser ohms at higher settings). I have many juices pure PG, mixes, and pure VG.

Then I don't see much a difference from using watts instead of volts.

So what am I doing wrong??? I'll try whatever. Just name it and I'll give it a shot. I want to know my MOD is better than my ego-twist or my vision-spinner. But sadly I do not see the point at all. So what am I doing wrong? I wish to upgrade my vaping experience(more vapor, more warmth, but definitely emphasis on MORE VAPOR) and this mod might as well be my ego-twist with a bigger battery.

Thanks for any suggestions or reasoning.

 

[Vappers]

The MVP 2.0 is basically a fancy battery. Simple as that. Its VV/VW But there is a Sweet Spot for every juice you vape. Instead of trying to get MORE MORE MORE, Try for better quality. Increased taste. If its clouds your trying to chase, spend a ton of time learning ohms law and get into mechs. Build your RDA's and enjoy life.

Personally i have an MVP 2.0 and a Mech Mod. I use my MVP for out and about and my Mech for at home. Personally i love being able to vape/charge my phone at the same time. Thats dope.

 

[CreepyLady]

Hi Keha,

The mod you bought is better in precisely the ways you noticed. Power is power 3.9V is 3.9V is 3.9V. So on the same settings you will not have more or warmer vapor. In order to achieve that you need to use different resistance coils and different settings, provided the amount of warmth and vapor you are looking for is even possible.

The device you got is better because it has volts and watts, which are not different results from one another just 2 different roads to the same end result of finding your "sweet spot". Its better because it has a larger battery with longer life - the battery lasting 2-3 days. It is also a better device because it offers said ohms checker.

The MVP is about features, reliability, consistency, battery life and it does not have a PWM 33.3 Hz chip - or 'the rattlesnake effect'.

Warmer vapor - use something top coil - that is warmer than bottom. More vapor will require experimentation with toppers. You may be looking for something that cant be done or can only be done with crazy sub-ohm builds on a mech should you feel pretty daring with keeping your face/hands.

It sounds like maybe you had unrealistic expectations when you upgraded - I am so sorry if anyone mislead you there I hope you are able to find enjoyment in your MVP - its a great device

 

[Topacka]

Your battery/mod has far less to do with your vape quality than your topper. Grab up a nicer tank if you're into clearos, or a carto tank or a rebuildable to massively change your vape quality.

 

[Rickajho]

Hi keha

The problem is all of those toppers you listed are basically the same device running the same type of coil. Moving them from one battery to another battery doesn't change the design of the clearo. It can only do what it is designed to do no matter what the battery is. If you want something bigger/more/different you need to step away from the Kanger & Aspire clearos.

For even ten bucks you can get a low end carto tank to try that experience. It will be different, but I don't know if what a carto tank delivers is exactly what you are looking for. Are you disappointed with the clearos or were you just expecting them to work differently?

 

[Racehorse]

I saw a HUGE jump in ease of use when I switched from a regular old 510 to a ego and then to ego-twist.

But I don't see what the fuss is about with mods... I bought a mvp2.0 baby mod if you will. I just do not see any difference in how it works, beyond the battery lasting 2-3days of regular use

Put the same delivery device on a VV Ego and on a VV mod at the same voltage and.......there isn't much difference.

People move to bigger mods for more battery time and more ability to "set it" to customize their vape. Since I always vape at about 3.7-4.1, it really won't help me.

Unless you want to go to a completely different delivery system/philosophy, a bottom feeder, you're basically in the same world

 

[Vaslovik]

I'm not surprised that you are not impressed. I've never owned a regulated mod, I went straight from the eGo bats and spinners to a mech and RBA. I'm glad I saved the money, and I'm pretty happy with what I now have.

 

[Baditude]

I agree with all of the previous posters. A regulated mod will have more features that may not necessarily affect the quality or quantity of your vape, just allow for more convenience with longer battery time/larger juice capacity attachments/LED displays/battery & voltage meters/etc. than an eGo setup.

Advancing Up the Vaping Ladder

The juice attachments used on top of the battery devices will have more of a factor in changing the quality and quantity of the vapor. The clearomizers are limitied in the wicking system that they use - small wicks (small surface area) delivering liquid to the heating coils may have trouble keeping up with a moderate to heavy vaper potentially leading to dry hits, flooding, and inconsistancy.

Next step up would be a cartotank. A cartomizer is packed full of wick material (larger surface area) completely surrounding the heating coil. This allows for better flavor, decreases the potential for dry hits and flooding, and gives more consistancy.

Drip atomizers have no wick material to get in the way of flavor, but can be inconvenient in most situations due to you not being able to use more than a few drops of e-liquid at a time. A bottom feeding box mod can be a solution to this issue by adding the convenience of a tank to a drip atomizer.

Rebuildable atomizers can be fine tuned by the user to provide even more flavor and vapor production, but they do require additional knowledge about Ohm's Law, have a way to accurately measure the homemade coils resistance (Ohm reader or digital multimeter), knowledge of the right batteries to use, and learning how to wrap different coils and use different wicking materials.

Proper Terminology: Is It a Carto, a Tank, or What?

I will add that more Vg (vegetable glycerin) in your e-liquids will provide more vapor production.

 

[Technohydra]

Interestingly, I have just upgraded from a 1300mah spinner to a VTR with Orbtronic 2900mah batts in it, and the upgrade has totally changed my vaping experience. Not to mention, I now feel like I can kick the smoke once and for all. As an aside, I was using a rebuilt Trident both before and after the switch. The new device has taught me a lot in less than a week.

First off, I learned that the reason I was coughing so much after vaping was my coils being built differently than I thought they were. I figured my coils were about 1.8-2.1 ohms...they were really more like 1.1...so my vape was way hotter than I figured it was. Secondly, I figured out that I like a mouth to lung inhale as opposed to the monster lung inhales I was taking to try to get 'enough' vape down. I still do both, but I M-L a lot more now, and I'm happier for it. I have found that the amount of vapor is a mental thing, and has nothing to do with the actual intake of nicotine for me. It's a visual validation of what I feel I need to see, not an indication of real results, and that sentiment does vary from person to person.

Another thing is that the power I am getting to my RDA is the power I set, not the voltage that my Ego was able to provide at the setting I had it at, which dips according to the charge level. You should also have a larger amp limit, so you shouldn't be getting a cutoff for trying to set too high of a voltage as often. You should have a limit of 3 amp, which is a healthy number for everything but sub-ohm or crazy multicoil builds.

I have to agree with the mass sentiment, if you are using the same devices on your mod or Ego, you will get very similar performance. I like to recommend picking up both an I-Go L / Trident clone to experiement with dripping (~$15, Hoosier vapes or Discount Vapers) and a carto tank ($20-40, IBTanked with either Boge F16 carts or Inkenvape carts at your preferred resistance). Both of these device types will be a different vape from what you are used to, and will change your experience one way or another. A more expensive way to go is to find an HCigar Kayfun / Russian clone to test out, as it seems to combine the best parts of clearos, cartos, and drippers in one device, and are considered by many to be one of the best vapes available for under $100 (<$50 with the clones).

Recommendations for now? Try setting your MVP to 11-12 watts on your devices, and see if a drag or two don't show you a bit better vape. If you are rebuilding, try to shave a few tenths of an ohm off of your coils and use the same settings. Try building a different kind of coil, like a simple microcoil with a cotton wick, which combines easy or use, ease of maintenance, and excellent performance. Try rewicking your current coils with cotton, if rebuilding the coils is out of the question at the moment. The wicking and flavor profile will change pretty substantially if you are moving from silica. Most of all, just stick it out, and try to change things to find better quality and more satisfaction. You have a good crew here to help you think of solutions, and I'm sure we will all chime in with more advice than you could possibly want. Worst case scenario, some of us here have Spinners lying around, so if you end up totally hating the device, you could probably hit one of us up for a trade plus cash deal. I know a lot of people, myself included, that would love to have an MVP as a backup...BUT...I think we would all rather help you start enjoying your new device rather than unload it. Just know that you'll have no trouble selling it if you decide you hate it, most of ECF loves MVPs.

Over all, relax, sit back, have a vape, and take it one step at a time. We'll get you up and going yet.

 

[keha]

Very friendly community indeed. Thanks for the responses :]

I do like my mvp2.0, just was expecting more. Been vaping solid for a year. Tried 2 other times and failed in the last 4 years.

I've been making my own coils, I find micro coils work much better in evods. Then I found drilling out one the air holes made it work much better. Currently using 32guage a1-kanthal, 4/5wraps on a paper clip, netting me roughly 1.3 or 1.7ohm's. With organic cotton or silica. I have 28gauge coming in the mail.

I also own a igo-L, I use it to test juices. It does not hit any better than my evods and is to much a headache for me for all day use. I'm indeed already eyeballing a kayfun. I also have 2 carto tanks, with dual or single coil(I just find them a pain when the coil dies, then you cannot easily rebuild these yourself)

So what would you suggest I try with mvp2.0 to net MORE vapor? Should I just ante up for a mechanical mod?(which I thought was a mvp2.0 but a limited one). New type of tank? Or a specific way to make a coil? how low can I go on ohm's with a mvp2.0?

 

[supermarket]

I saw a HUGE jump in ease of use when I switched from a regular old 510 to a ego and then to ego-twist.

But I don't see what the fuss is about with mods... I bought a mvp2.0 baby mod if you will. I just do not see any difference in how it works, beyond the battery lasting 2-3days of regular use(which is nice).

But I was expecting more VAPOR and more warmth. But I got neither. Flip side it's allowed me to rebuild my own coils, since it checks ohms. Which was why I got this one to begin with.

I used the iclear30 it came with, works fine but works same if i put it on my ego-twist.... I used it on my evods, same results as my ego-twist... Used a protank 1 and 2, same result as my ego twist.... Used a igo-l RDA, same results as my ego-twist. I've used coils ranging from 1.3ohm to 3.2ohm(I will say the 3.2 worked better with the mvp2 at higher settings versus burning my wicks with lesser ohms at higher settings). I have many juices pure PG, mixes, and pure VG.

Then I don't see much a difference from using watts instead of volts.

So what am I doing wrong??? I'll try whatever. Just name it and I'll give it a shot. I want to know my MOD is better than my ego-twist or my vision-spinner. But sadly I do not see the point at all. So what am I doing wrong? I wish to upgrade my vaping experience(more vapor, more warmth, but definitely emphasis on MORE VAPOR) and this mod might as well be my ego-twist with a bigger battery.

Thanks for any suggestions or reasoning.

I'm curious as to WHY you were expecting more vapor from an MVP2, as opposed to an ego twist?

Did you read at all before attempting to upgrade? I'm seriously curious as to what made you think you would somehow get more vapor from switching from an ego twist to an mvp2.


This seems to be an unfortunate problem in the vaping community. Everyone wants the next big thing, everyone wants to upgrade, the bigger, better, more expensive, etc.

An MVP is not designed to produce more vapor than an ego twist. It also shouldn't affect flavor at all. That is not its purpose. The BENEFITS of an upgrade from an ego twist to an MVP2 would be several fold:

1) Longer battery life
2) More durable (though not as durable as a mech mod)
3) ability to charge stuff via the usb port
4) VV AND VW (ego twist is just VV)


If you had read about the device before purchasing it, you would have realized that the above improvements are the difference between an ego twist, and an mvp2.0, not flavor and/or vapor.

Of course, it has been stated that the MVPs, like the provaris, use a certain chipset that provides more stable vaping than other regulated devices...and that it probably true. I have an MVP2, and although I can't say for SURE, I do believe the vapor output is better than my ego twist. That should NOT be the reason one moves from an ego twist to an mvp however.

 

[supermarket]

I saw a HUGE jump in ease of use when I switched from a regular old 510 to a ego and then to ego-twist.

But I don't see what the fuss is about with mods... I bought a mvp2.0 baby mod if you will. I just do not see any difference in how it works, beyond the battery lasting 2-3days of regular use(which is nice).

But I was expecting more VAPOR and more warmth. But I got neither. Flip side it's allowed me to rebuild my own coils, since it checks ohms. Which was why I got this one to begin with.

I used the iclear30 it came with, works fine but works same if i put it on my ego-twist.... I used it on my evods, same results as my ego-twist... Used a protank 1 and 2, same result as my ego twist.... Used a igo-l RDA, same results as my ego-twist. I've used coils ranging from 1.3ohm to 3.2ohm(I will say the 3.2 worked better with the mvp2 at higher settings versus burning my wicks with lesser ohms at higher settings). I have many juices pure PG, mixes, and pure VG.

Then I don't see much a difference from using watts instead of volts.

So what am I doing wrong??? I'll try whatever. Just name it and I'll give it a shot. I want to know my MOD is better than my ego-twist or my vision-spinner. But sadly I do not see the point at all. So what am I doing wrong? I wish to upgrade my vaping experience(more vapor, more warmth, but definitely emphasis on MORE VAPOR) and this mod might as well be my ego-twist with a bigger battery.

Thanks for any suggestions or reasoning.

You asked "What am I doing wrong?" The first thing is not researching enough. You are asking for a better vape, and want someone to simply tell you what to buy. While that might work, I think you'd have a far better experience if you do the research, and come to your own conclusion.

The ego twist is actually a very nice battery.

If you are looking to improve the vapor production, and the flavor......you really need to focus on the DELIVERY DEVICE. The delivery device is hands down the most important aspect of vaping in relation to vapor production and flavor.


You are lucky in that you have stumbled on a web-site (this one right here!) that is rich in content, information, and a strong and well-populated community full of vaping related info. The main thing is to research, research, and then research some more.


You have an MVP2.....so trust me when I say this, you don't need another mod right now. You need to start researching the difference between the delivery devices, and then try a couple out.

The main types of delivery devices:

1) Clearomizers
A) Top coil
B) Bottom Coil
2) Carto Tanks
3) Rebuildables

If I were you , I would start with a bottom coil clearo, a top coil one, and a carto tank. For around $25-30, you should be able to try out one of each.

 

[supermarket]

Very friendly community indeed. Thanks for the responses :]

I do like my mvp2.0, just was expecting more. Been vaping solid for a year. Tried 2 other times and failed in the last 4 years.

I've been making my own coils, I find micro coils work much better in evods. Then I found drilling out one the air holes made it work much better. Currently using 32guage a1-kanthal, 4/5wraps on a paper clip, netting me roughly 1.3 or 1.7ohm's. With organic cotton or silica. I have 28gauge coming in the mail.

I also own a igo-L, I use it to test juices. It does not hit any better than my evods and is to much a headache for me for all day use. I'm indeed already eyeballing a kayfun. I also have 2 carto tanks, with dual or single coil(I just find them a pain when the coil dies, then you cannot easily rebuild these yourself)

So what would you suggest I try with mvp2.0 to net MORE vapor? Should I just ante up for a mechanical mod?(which I thought was a mvp2.0 but a limited one). New type of tank? Or a specific way to make a coil? how low can I go on ohm's with a mvp2.0?

You thought the MVP was a mechanical mod? I'm not even sure what a 'limited' mechanical mod would be.

A mechanical mod is one that doesn't have a chipset, its basically just a tube that holds the re-chargable batteries, and allows you to screw in a delivery device on it.

Again, I really suggest you do more research before you make anymore purchases. I originally hadn't read your last reply, I was assuming after reading your original post that you were new to vaping.

Can I ask what exactly you are looking for? The mvp, along with the delivery device of your choice, should be more than enough to produce a nice vapor with great flavor.



A mechanical mod doesn't produce better flavor, or more vapor than a variable voltage/variable wattage mod that uses a chipset.

The reason why mechanical mods are used by cloud chasers is because they aren't regulated by a chipset, so you build your coils at 1.0ohms and less. THAT is what allows for more vapor production.


research....research....research!


Again, your MVP is MORE than a suitable device to achieve fantastic flavor and vapor production. If you are looking for more flavor than what you are currently getting, you can try another RBA, like a Kayfun clone, with micro coils and cotton.

If you are cloud chasing, then I HIGHLY suggest you AVOID using a mechanical to bypass the regulation a VV/VW device has until you are FAR , FAR, FAR more knowledgeable about all of this.

There is a problem in the vaping world right now, one that has gotten out of hand , unfortunately, that has to do with people inexperienced, and lacking proper knowledge, who are cloud chasing. What they are doing is highly dangerous, and generally frowned upon.

Whatever you end up doing, please be careful!

 

[ccv1]

I also own a igo-L, I use it to test juices. It does not hit any better than my evods and is to much a headache for me for all day use. I'm indeed already eyeballing a kayfun. I also have 2 carto tanks, with dual or single coil(I just find them a pain when the coil dies, then you cannot easily rebuild these yourself)

So what would you suggest I try with mvp2.0 to net MORE vapor? Should I just ante up for a mechanical mod?(which I thought was a mvp2.0 but a limited one). New type of tank? Or a specific way to make a coil? how low can I go on ohm's with a mvp2.0?

I have an Igo L I use on my MVP that produces 4X the vapor as my evods. It's all in the coil placement and air flow.

I drilled out the side hole in the Igo L cap to 1/16, this allows more air to the coil. Also make sure your coil is directly in front of the air hole forcing the air you draw in do go evenly over the top and bottom of your coil. Using this set up with a 1.4 ohm coil and 50/50 juice I am producing clouds that I didn't think we're possible outside of sub ohm. Plus I am now mixing my juice with half my normal Nic just for the dripper because I find I need less Nic with this set up.

I've only been dripping for about 2 weeks. Prior to this I was a clearo guy. Now I find myself carrying my MVP with the Igo L on it for great clouds and flavor with 50/50 9% Nic, and one of my vv/v3's with a EVOD with my usual 65/35 PG/VG 18% Nic for when I need the convenience of the clearo. For me this set up is the best of both worlds. Well until my new VTR shows up today. That just might change things a bit.

Edit: I just use a basic 1.4 ohm micro coil with this set up.

As far as how low can you go on the MVP with ohms. I haven't tried it with anything less than 1.2 ohms. I always shoot for 1.4 ohms +/- .2 ohms with my coils in my Igo L. I prefer closer to 1.8 ohms on my EVOD.

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[Coelli]

Drip atomizers have no wick material to get in the way of flavor, but can be inconvenient in most situations due to you not being able to use more than a few drops of e-liquid at a time. A bottom feeding box mod can be a solution to this issue by adding the convenience of a tank to a drip atomizer.

I hate to step on Baditude's post, but I have a correction to this part. Most rebuildable drippers DO use wicking (either silica, cotton, or ceramic). I think the bridgeless ones don't, but they are the exception (I have never used those, only rebuildables and the eBaron Dripper Pro which you can either rebuild or buy new coils/heads for - and they use a silica wick). Depending on how heavily you vape they can go for a while without being re-dripped and have the advantage that you can easily rotate between several different flavors if, like me, you are easily bored and can't bear the thought of a full tank of anything.

That said I agree with everyone else that getting a better battery is what allows you to use better/different toppers, and those will be the biggest difference to your vape. A Protank Mini 2 on an eGo is still a Protank Mini 2 on an MVP2.

 

[twentysacked]

I wouldn't really expect a jump in flavor/vapor based on a battery. Your topper is the most important thing. I DO believe that your MVP will bring a more consistent vape over time compared to your eGos.

 

[VapieDan]

Your battery/mod has far less to do with your vape quality than your topper. Grab up a nicer tank if you're into clearos, or a carto tank or a rebuildable to massively change your vape quality.

Yup I agree. I have cartos and tanks that behave the same on an ego. However moving into better tanks and RBAs opened a new world with a mod. I am not talking sub ohm. Resistance 1.5-2.7 range.

 

[p.opus]

. A Protank Mini 2 on an eGo is still a Protank Mini 2 on an MVP2.

I agree with everything you said except the above statement.

I love Mini Protank 2's and I can tell you they taste MUCH better on the MVP2 than the eGo, but not because MVP's or other mods are powered by Unicorn tears.

1. I like hitting my Mini Protank's at 4.2 volts. My eGo-T's could never hit at 4.2 volts. A Twist or Spinner yes, but a standard eGo...No way....Thus my Pro Tank 2 tastes much better due to my ability to apply the greater voltage to the coil. Variable Voltage/Wattage allows me to compensate for differences in coil resistance as well. Now would it taste the same on a Twist or Spinner? Sure. But this brings me to point 2.

2. An decent regulated mod means that I can hit 4.2 volts from the moment I take it off the charger until I have to charge it. I do not know if Twist's or Spinners suffer from voltage lag during the discharge cycle, but my Ego-T's sure did.

These are the TWO things that any decent regulated mod should be able to do to affect flavor. Provide more voltage than is available from a mechanical or unregulated mod, AND provide the user with a consistent vape throughout the discharge cycle.

Any one who states that their mod can do more than this to affect flavor is living in a fantasy world.

 

[Elizabeth Baldwin]

Try an igo-L on your MVP.... It's for dripping. I use one on my itaste VTR and the taste and Vape is awesome. They aren't much, just 12 to 14 bucks. I use cotton and just switch out when I change flavors. Easy N awesome and a big change in vaping experience. You already have the hardware... Just get the igo-L and some cotton... Read about dripping atomizers first so you knowledgable in it then try it.

 

[Porkchop081]

i have recently started using a Vamo V3 and have started rebuilding my Kanger style coil heads with cotton wicks and running the Ohms around 1.6-1.8. Playing with watts settings helps to find the "sweet spot" of my juices. My settings vary from 8.0 watts to 12.0 watts for some juices and i am getting more vapor from these ProTanks than i ever did when i was using them on my mech mod. the cotton really helps with wicking and flavor. sounds like you need to try different atty/clearo/carto's. im some what of a chain vaper and had a hard time finding something that could hold up to my vaping style. these rebuilt coils have been the ticket for me so far. you may just need to experiment with a few things and see what works for you