Box Mod - opinions please
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lol. Yes, I guess you are right. Gotta give props where props are due... Nothing stealth vapes better than a shorty 808. Still, I wish I at least would have tried to do more research. A VariCool, some 14500s, a charger, and one volt (smokeless image) battery would have been the same cost as the starter kit I got.
I've got a 5V box mod from him and am very happy with it. It was a scratched one and I got it for $15 shipped, which was a great deal IMO. I wish I would have bought more than one when he had that sale going.
!youre gonna love it. i am so pleased with mine. its compact, very powerful, and the batteries last me two days of solid vaping. ive even recently become a fan of some of my juices that were just meh at lower voltages. Boba for example. it can really shine when the volts are high enough. i previously was not a fan because my device would not allow it to reach its potential. this box really opened up my vape world. 
Indeed, Kemosabe! Great purchase! ...Now all I need is some high drain 14500's :/
'til then the regulated ones perform well enough
'til then the regulated ones perform well enough
The great thing about a box is that it does not look like a cigarette. You could say it looks like some kind of pulmonary vaporizer. I can just tell nosy treatment that I am giving myself a lung treatment, LOL.
im ignorant to the difference between high drain and regular(?) drain. care to fill me in?
Indeed, Kemosabe! Great purchase! ...Now all I need is some high drain 14500's :/
'til then the regulated ones perform well enough
In a VV or 5v regulated mod you really shouldn't need IMRs (high drain) since the regulation is going on in the chip. If chip is doing it's job you shouldn't be able to tell the diff. In which case the protected 14500 (assuming we're talking 14500s here) has a much better run time due to higher mAh capacity. This is true for all two battery VV or 5v mods. Now, if we're talking about a single battery VV mod (a booster chip vs a true regulator) then that's a whole different story.
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PS: Sorry, replied to the wrong post... IMR = high drain (can put out more amps but less run time). It's a different chemistry than Li-Ion (but a close cousin) and are generally not protected batteries so your mod should have a minimum voltage cut off circuit in it. Most chips do but it's too low (4.5v across two batts) to do any good in a PV. Very few (if any) commercial box mods have a low voltage cut out in them. There are couple threads going on in mods discussion about how to do this extra circuitry. Normal protected Li-Ion batteries turn themselves off at some minimum voltage (2.75v~3v).
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Not only are IMR different chemistry, but they are generally considered safer chemistry as well. Which means that if a cell does go nuclear the damage should be minimal.
Probably protected versions. I agree. That's the right battery for most 14500 box mods. Gotta a link to the specific mod?
They are protected. I think that's all Rob sells.
The VariCool box itself is here:
SmokTek "SmokBox VariCool" - Custom variable volt Box Mod - Efficient switching regulator! adjustable 3,4,5,6.5 volt's & everything between.
And the Trustfire's he sells with it are here:
14500 Trustfire Flame - Protected Li-Ion Battery -900mAh 50mm (2-pack)
I'm getting a nice 24 hour run time on a set of these in the VariCool, typically vaping 2.0-ish ohm hardware at 4.0 volts. I love it!
just when i think im a heavy vaporizer (most of my friends dont vape), i go ahead and read just how light in comparison I am.
my batts last F O R E V E R. i popped in a freshly charged set of batts on sunday afternoon. the batts were still going strong last night. i changed them just because i felt like i should, but i bet theyd still be going now if i hadnt swapped em out.
FTR im running 1.7ohm cartos @ ~3.8v. vape heaven
just when i think im a heavy vaporizer (most of my friends dont vape), i go ahead and read just how light in comparison I am.
my batts last F O R E V E R. i popped in a freshly charged set of batts on sunday afternoon. the batts were still going strong last night. i changed them just because i felt like i should, but i bet theyd still be going now if i hadnt swapped em out.
FTR im running 1.7ohm cartos @ ~3.8v. vape heaven
There's so many variables in the equation. The resistance of the hardware: higher resistance will give shorter run times. (But believe me, I have NO complaints about swapping batteries on this puppy only once a day!) You are running at a slightly lower voltage than I do...
The frequency of using the pv - and I'm phrasing it that way on purpose. I changed to using thicker VG liquids than I used to and find that those liquids just seem to "go" faster than the thinner VG stuff. So I'm now a little skeptical of the idea that X number of ml's of liquid per day equals light, medium or heavy vaping. My vaping frequency hasn't increased, but these more primo thicker VG liquids just "go" faster. Apparently I'm not the only person who has made that observation about thicker VG stuff.
Regardless, these battery run times in the VariCool are wicked longer than the reports I got from people buying the cheaper box mods. An ecf friend of mine is lucky to get 5 hours run time on her cheapy vv box mod.
^wow im so pleased to have opted for the varicool. it is 100% exceeding my expectations.
thats interesting to note about the thicker VG "going" faster than thin VG. i would have guessed the opposite. i do notice certain liquids vaping quicker than others, but im not a big VG guy. i enjoy a blend. ive got to have a bit more PG than VG as i like the TH of PG better than the VG TH.
im so pleased to have opted for the varicool. it is 100% exceeding my expectations.thats interesting to note about the thicker VG "going" faster than thin VG. i would have guessed the opposite. i do notice certain liquids vaping quicker than others, but im not a big VG guy. i enjoy a blend. ive got to have a bit more PG than VG as i like the TH of PG better than the VG TH.
Yes, they are safe
But here is the difference as I understand it... The high drains will allow higher amps for longer than the Li-Ion. The Li-Ion Protected batteries have higher mah (900), but they do not last as long as the high drains (IMR 14500 600mah) on higher voltages because the high drains can handle higher amps better, hence "High Drain."I'm not sure if this is making any sense, but when it comes down to it if you vape 4.5V or higher get some high drains, they will last longer. If you vape below that, the regular Li-Ion 14500s will last longer.
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