brand new carto, burning aftertaste
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The first time you fill a carto is VERY important. It has to be fully filled and otherwise the bottom, at the battery end, is dry and the filler/ stuffing is immediately burnt by the heating coils. Place a round toothpick in the air passge at the mouth end. Drip drops into the filler until it looks "slushie- you will see a drop come out the battery end.
Good Luck, Vapoor.
Good Luck, Vapoor.
I use a syringe to fill all my cArtos and it is very easy. It also ensures they are filled correctly bc you push the needle to the bottom and fill from the bottom up. You have to be careful drip filling bc if you don't do it right you'll burn the wick/filler like you did. A syringe takes all the guesswork out of filling. If you don't drip in enough juice or wait long enough for the juice to settle, then even though you think it's filled there's a chance that the filler at the bottom and the atty could still be dry. You need to let the carto stand on the threaded end for awhile so the juice can make its way down, and if you use higher VG juices it takes even longer bc the thick juices don't settle as fast. Or If you use XL cartos it takes awhile bc they hold alot of juice and are bigger. That's why I recommend using a syringe or the condom method, especially for the first fill. If you buy cartos from CCV you get a free syringe with with all carto purchases. I use the Ressurector cartos and they hold over 2ml of juice so I use a syringe bc filling it completely by dripping would take forever.
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If it was blank carto then my guess is you didn't fill it completely to its stated capacity, or you didn't settle it on different sides to make sure every bit of stuffing got wet, or you used too thick a juice (too much VG) so the juice is too sluggish to move fast enough to re-wet the coil area.
If it was prefilled - prefilled cartos are often not particularly well filled because they don't want them leaking and killing auto batteries.
And again a lack of info - what is the voltage of your box mod? Ego is 3.4v. A 3.7v box mod is 3.7v and fresh off the charger can be 4.2v. A 5v box mod can be higher off the charger. And there are variable voltage mods. The higher the voltage, the more heat the coil in the carto makes and the more critical that you fill properly with thin enough juice, settle, and keep it damp.
If it was blank carto then my guess is you didn't fill it completely to its stated capacity, or you didn't settle it on different sides to make sure every bit of stuffing got wet, or you used too thick a juice (too much VG) so the juice is too sluggish to move fast enough to re-wet the coil area.
If it was prefilled - prefilled cartos are often not particularly well filled because they don't want them leaking and killing auto batteries.
And again a lack of info - what is the voltage of your box mod? Ego is 3.4v. A 3.7v box mod is 3.7v and fresh off the charger can be 4.2v. A 5v box mod can be higher off the charger. And there are variable voltage mods. The higher the voltage, the more heat the coil in the carto makes and the more critical that you fill properly with thin enough juice, settle, and keep it damp.
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I'm glad you posted this, I had a similar problem with mine yesterday but it was a carto tank, and it happened with two of the cartos. Now I'm wondering if I didn't top them off enough before replacing them. Also the cartos I'm using don't work well on anything higher than 5v, so if it's similar this might be the problem with using it on the box mod.
I never top off liquid into the carto in a tank setup, and never have issues with burning. On the first fill of a new one I fill the carto with a syringe then fill up the tank. I let the tank settle standing on its battery end for 1-2 hours then alternate laying it on its sides for an hour each. This ensures that my filler is fully soaked. After the first fill I have never had to add liquid to the cartomizer, just adding to the tank works fine. If it wasn't a fresh carto maybe your holes/slots in the carto aren't letting juice in?
i had the same problem with kanger cartos. the ones that are $5 a box. fill them until liquid runs out the bottom, take a few puffs then burnt taste, top it off until liquid runs out take a few puffs bang burnt taste again. throwed them in the garbage and ordered some boges which ive found perfect so far. also noticed that the kanger cartos did fit the drip tips well, the tip would woble around on top, loose fit
They were new so I probably didn't fill them enough. This process makes a lot more sense compared to what I was doing so I'll try this, thank you.
so its the 5v box mod and filler cartos and yeah i drip filled it which makes sense that the juice didnt settle i just got a 15 pack of em tho which come with the rig so ill b good.
i actually did what u guys said on another new carto before i checked this which is drip more and make sure it's on the sides and let it sit for a second to settle.
funny thing is i thought it was too full cuz it was coming out the bottom but i realize now that there's a hole in the middle herpderp.
thanks for the feedback tho i hope this thread helps others as well.
ps i dont see how my equipment info is this valuable in this situation, i just didnt put enough juice in my carto
i actually did what u guys said on another new carto before i checked this which is drip more and make sure it's on the sides and let it sit for a second to settle.
funny thing is i thought it was too full cuz it was coming out the bottom but i realize now that there's a hole in the middle herpderp.
thanks for the feedback tho i hope this thread helps others as well.
ps i dont see how my equipment info is this valuable in this situation, i just didnt put enough juice in my carto
When you fill the stuffing and let it settle to the bottom and drip more in eventually it overflows into the air passage and down and out the battery end. That's why I place the toothpick in the air passage. First fill takes maybe 3 minutes.
Exactly NOT how you fill a stuffing carto. You should be be filling a carto TO CAPACITY. You need to know the how many ml the carto is.
Then you fill to capacity, cleanup, settle. My method is - block the threaded end hole (with finger and tissue or a carto spike) and make it take at least 90% of it's stated capacity, wait 20 seconds or so then drip in however many more drops it will take. I make a 1ml carto take 18 drops, then I wait, then I drip in 2-6 more - whatever it will soak in. Then I clean it up. Then I lay it on all sides and ends for 15-20 minutes (enough time for thin juice) to make sure every bit of stuffing is damp. THEN I puff it.
And while vaping I am on guard for reduction of flavor or vapor, any change or lack in the flavor, any unusual warmth of the carto - if any of those happen I check if it could use some juice. I use a plastic or delrin drip tip as a mouthpiece instead of the endcap and I use thin clear usually light-color juices with no flavoring sediment. So my carto's stuffing goes white on top when it could use more juice. I also check/top off a carto before leaving the house, before bed, and before putting it on a fresh hot battery.
Re 5v box mod - on your Ego 3.4v, a 3 ohm carto is barely warm. On a 5v box mod is near the low end of low resistance for 5v. So of course it is MUCH hotter on a 5v box mod and it will be probably use juice faster and it will be more critical to keep the carto damp.
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