If you look into how the FDA was created it was basically funded by BT to begin with.
does not imply a favor owed. Also the very beginnings of the FDA was the “poison squad” which was a long long time ago. There is then and there is now
When the vaping industry started to boom around 2013 BT showed huge revenue and profit loss.
implying they wouldn’t like vaping much
“Coincidentally” the FDA also had the same problem and is following a very similar trend money wise as BT.
Your quotes imply it is not a coincidence. I’m not sure that is true. that had to do not with BT but with tax cuts for the rich and subsequent underfunding of infrastructure. So far as I can see the two are not tied in reality
Also no one is talking about the 300% tariff tax trump was going to instate on China,
of course not. Like much of what he says it didn’t actually happen.
where the majority of vaping hardware products come from, you really think that these tariffs are not targeted at vaping and raising the cost so high it is no longer worth buying them.
tariffs that don’t even exist? Yes. Also they’re not an “are” I honestly don’t think vaping was a primary focus of foreign policy. I don’t think it is even now for government anyway. For BT though yes, and BT has money to influence various governments. Vaping may be the center of OUR world but it doesn’t make it the center of THE world.
With those tariffs that high a Smok nord would be damn near dna chip mods prices currently. After Trump announced the proposed executive order to ban flavored e liquids within a couple days he stated he is willing to sit down and renegotiate the tariffs on China and there are plans for meeting and I would bet the they come to a new trade agreement. If those tariffs went through it would tank our economy, almost everything purchased from amazon and Walmart (2 of the biggest suppliers of products in the USA to consumers) they would lose so much business because people couldn’t afford to buy much extra if anything except the essentials. The info structure of country and economy is not equipped to do the industrial era again and our economy would tank. The unemployment rates would sky rocket and impoverished people would be the largest class of people in our country.
I agree that Trumps proposed policies often have horrific future ramifications
Also the Commissioner of the FDA Gottlieb who was open minded to vaping and keeping it alive and researching and actually finding out if it was a safe alternative was pushed out the day or 2 after the executive order announcement.
pushed or not pushed. Also pushed by whom? No one knows. Enticed is a possibility as well.
We are coming up in an election year I do not believe Trump will kill the vaping industry directly, but the new commissioner of the FDA will be testifying today or tomorrow about how bad vaping is and what an epidemic it is and that it needs to be stopped.
a truly possible prediction. Not a hard guess either.
If you believe this is all coincidence than you do.
I don’t completely. Pieces may be, pieces may not be. Pointing to an actual culprit though is harder. BT is a prime candidate though.
I Have been vaping for almost 10 years with Rebuildable devices and that is what got me away from smoking. I also worked in the vape industry and ran 12 stores, the warehouse that supplied those stores, ordered all of the products from China, ran the wholesale business for the company and also their online business for 4 years. I still have and communicate with friends I have made in China in the ecigs industry and they have told me that if the tariffs went that high it would be unrealistic to sell their devices in the States. Another sign pointing to this being the government and BT and all about the money is that they just announced today 9-25-19 that they are looking at and considering not only banning flavored juices but the sale of all vaping related products.
I do agree it’s all about the money. Nothing can move without money except individuals and they have little power. Controlling the money controls all.
They know if they take away juice people will make their own.
a few will. Most wont, if for no other reason because they don’t know how. It’s common knowledge here, but here is here. This is a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction of people. Most people have lives to lead and have little time for such stuff. Smoking cigarettes is likely their only option.
I already do and have for years I have helped set up an ISO8 lab when the FDA rolled out the first set of regulations a few years back. If you don’t believe that the our wonderful government and BT would work together to kill the vaping industry I would i courage you to do some research. There are an estimate 10-15 million adult vapors in American and there have been less than 600 cases of health problems that they are claiming is vaping which is not true to start with. BT kills roughly 1300 people daily from smoking combustible cigarettes, my question is why is the FDA and our government not concerned more with killing BT with these band as well? Cigarettes are linked to more deaths daily than have been linked to proper vaping devices and juices in the past 5 years. I don’t believe this has anything to do with public health and saving our children. I started smoking cigarettes and chewing tobacco when I was 14 years old. I spent over 20 bucks a day a decade ago on BT products, that is why BT wants the vaping industry gone. They may have invested hundreds of millions on their own devices, but that is a drop in the bucket and worth losing and giving up to make the billions back a year that would come back to them from the vape industry being gone. In turn the FDA would them be receive a lot more money as well.
It does imply a lot of BS and a lack of true concern for public health.
