Build suggestions for a seasoned noob

[Mike Weatherford Jr]

Sorry if this is the wrong section for this, but I still don't really know the site. (Just joined today)

I've been vaping for six months and while I know a lot I still don't know much. I'm running an Aspire Atlantis V1 with .3 coils on an iStick 100w. I got this build due to the pricing. I got the tank free from a friend and only paid 40 for the iStick. I love my iStick but there are some aspects I can't stand. The built in charging port ate my first set of batteries so that's a big issue for me. While I love the Atlantis I want better air flow and the ability to go lower than .3 ohms. I don't want to spend more than $100 on a build but I know that realistically I'll have to break $100. Any build suggestions?

 

[93gc40]

Why do you think you need to go lower than .3ohm???? Do you mean you want to use TC or think you need to, for some reason? What does better airflow mean just need more air or beeter feel to the draw?

I get not liking the built in battery charger, and all. But then I don't and wouldn't use my mod as my battery charger anyway. Unless the battery was built-in. Me if I had 100watts regulated to play with.... I might consider taking that .3ohm build I have adding wraps to it, maybe with thinner wire maybe with thicker, going higher either in ohms or mass or both.

Do you want to DIY the coils or no?
Do you want a tank or is dripping OK?
Do you require regulation?
How many watts of minimum MAX?

 

[ellupodilangelo]

My set up is actually relatively cheap when taking into consideration what is out there. It is cheap but not old.
I have a Sigelei Fuchai 200w Mod with an Aeolus Lite RDA.

I dont remember the lower limit of the Ohms that this mod allows but i do know that it will allow you to build lower than .3 ohms

The Aeolus Lite is a Dripper but if you are set on tanks im sure you could fins something with a little research.

• Sigelei Fuchai 200w: I've seen as low as $60.00
• Aeolus Lite: $42.00

This set up will run you just a bit over $100.00 and its my favorite set up so far

 

[Mike Weatherford Jr]

Well, I was told by the fella who got me vaping that lower ohm produces more flavor and more cloud. I've noticed it to be pretty true, so I figure if .3 ohms gives me good flavor and clouds something like .15 would be even better. My logic could be flawed though.
I like the tanks. I played with a RDA and didn't like having to drip often, or the hit I got from it. That could also be due to the RDA itself. I did enjoy the tinkering and building, though. My best coils were .35.
I'm not really sure of the difference between regulated and unregulated, but I'm looking for a minimum 100 vw, temp control is nice but not a deal breaker for me. I looked myself and couldn't find anything in my price range, maybe I'm looking on the wrong sites?

 

[Mike Weatherford Jr]

My set up is actually relatively cheap when taking into consideration what is out there. It is cheap but not old.
I have a Sigelei Fuchai 200w Mod with an Aeolus Lite RDA.

I dont remember the lower limit of the Ohms that this mod allows but i do know that it will allow you to build lower than .3 ohms

The Aeolus Lite is a Dripper but if you are set on tanks im sure you could fins something with a little research.

• Sigelei Fuchai 200w: I've seen as low as $60.00
• Aeolus Lite: $42.00

This set up will run you just a bit over $100.00 and its my favorite set up so far

Right on, I'll look into it. Thanks.

 

[ellupodilangelo]

Well, I was told by the fella who got me vaping that lower ohm produces more flavor and more cloud. I've noticed it to be pretty true, so I figure if .3 ohms gives me good flavor and clouds something like .15 would be even better. My logic could be flawed though.
I like the tanks. I played with a RDA and didn't like having to drip often, or the hit I got from it. That could also be due to the RDA itself. I did enjoy the tinkering and building, though. My best coils were .35.
I'm not really sure of the difference between regulated and unregulated, but I'm looking for a minimum 100 vw, temp control is nice but not a deal breaker for me. I looked myself and couldn't find anything in my price range, maybe I'm looking on the wrong sites?

Every juice has a different temperature sweet spot. There are things you can do to mitigate how many time you have to drip but you will always be dripping constantly with a dripper. There is no way around that but if you are a flavor guy... there is really no other alternative other than dripping.. in my experience it trumps the flavor to any tank IMO.
A regulated device means that it regulates its output of power as to not cause any catastrophic failures to the mod it self or the batteries, whereas an unregulated device such as a mechanical mod fires at full throttle no matter what and it is up to you, the user, to know how much power your build is demanding from your batteries. Its basically a built in fail-safe, this is also why many mods have lower and upper limits to the ohms they will allow to function.

Honestly a .35 coil should be right around where you want to be. .15 is something ive only recently seen with temperature controlled builds. The reason for this is because a .15 build has the ability to become a pretty hot vape. This kind of heat would be uncomfortable for my taste but with Temp. control you avoid the overly hot vape all together

 

[MMW]

Hi and welcome to ecf. After reading your posts and seeing you might be interested in tinkering/building, you can check out the rebuildable atomizer section. Rebuildable Atomizer Systems

Definitely read up on the RTAs if you dig tanks. Also in that rebuildable section they have different coil builds and peoples results using them. There's a wide array of people on here with a ton of knowledge and just as many people with their own preferences. People use monster coils and build low and love it, others build higher with simpler coils and love them. Some folks like airier draws and some like restricted.

As long as you read and understand what you are attempting to do SAFELY, I am a for believer that there's no wrong way to eat a Reeses!

Read, have fun, and don't take yourself too seriously. (62)

 

[EverPresentNoob]

Few tanks for you to look at....

UWell Crown. Stock coils at .25 running at 85 Watts. Great flavor and vape production.

Smok TFV4. Decent tank, but some have issues. there are I think 9 different coil options for it, from .15 up. things like triple coils, claptons, quad coils, hexcoils, and even a damn Octacoil. Vape can be hot as hell, or nice and cool depending on the coil and how you run it. I ran the quads at 85-90 watts and loved it. Then got a bad batch of coils and got ...... off and bought the Crown and never looked back.

If you want to try to build your own coils, I recently jumped at the Steam Crave Aromamizer... Its a tank but you wrap your own coils in it. Currently I have a dual parralel 28G 3mm 7 wrap in it at .4 ohms and this thing KICKS! Flavor for days, and nice clouds. It is currently my favorite tank followed in close second by my Crown.

For a good mod, look at the Releux rx200... It goes up to 200 watts, runs both power and temp controll mode.

another vote for the Sigelei mods as well. they are great. Ive had a couple different ones of theirs, sig 100, sig 100+. Rock solid mods.

Search around the forum and there are dedicated threads for everything I mentioned here.

 

[Rabbit Slayer]

I'm running an Aspire Atlantis V1 with .3 coils

Aspire says to NOT use those in the Version 1 and I'm guessing they had a good reason...probably something to do with the grade of O rings they used or soething

 

[Boden]

Well, I was told by the fella who got me vaping that lower ohm produces more flavor and more cloud. I've noticed it to be pretty true, so I figure if .3 ohms gives me good flavor and clouds something like .15 would be even better. My logic could be flawed though.
I like the tanks. I played with a RDA and didn't like having to drip often, or the hit I got from it. That could also be due to the RDA itself. I did enjoy the tinkering and building, though. My best coils were .35.
I'm not really sure of the difference between regulated and unregulated, but I'm looking for a minimum 100 vw, temp control is nice but not a deal breaker for me. I looked myself and couldn't find anything in my price range, maybe I'm looking on the wrong sites?

The only thing lower resistance equals is lower resistance.

You can build a 1.0 ohm coil set that will donkey-stomp a 0.15 build.

Once you are ready to tackle that subject give me a shout.

Btw. Velocity RDA

 

[Mike Weatherford Jr]

Thanks for the input.
Biden how do you make a 1 ohm that'll donkey-stomp, btw awesome expression, a .15? I've got a Tobh V2 RDA and my first build was a .8 that was just awful. Assuming this 1 ohm build is for an RDA, of course.

 

[Marc411]

Mike, it's all in the build nit the ohms. Right now I vaping my REO (BF) with a single 26ga six wrap @ .8 coil in an Atomic RDA. The flavor and vapor are outstanding! My coil is sitting right in front of my air flow and I have no cotton under the coil. It a warm flavorful vape.

Getting your RDA or tank set up right and your build rockin is going to give you what you are looking for in a good flavorful vape.

 

[sonicbomb]

With a mechanical device, you need low resistance coils to produce more power.
A regulated device removes that constraint. Using a bigger higher resistance coil will give you more surface area and potentially produce more vapor, allowing for the other factors. Higher resistance coils will also draw less amperage from your battery.
Take Boden up on his offer of more information.

 

[Mike Weatherford Jr]

Mike, it's all in the build nit the ohms. Right now I vaping my REO (BF) with a single 26ga six wrap @ .8 coil in an Atomic RDA. The flavor and vapor are outstanding! My coil is sitting right in front of my air flow and I have no cotton under the coil. It a warm flavorful vape.

Getting your RDA or tank set up right and your build rockin is going to give you what you are looking for in a good flavorful vape.

Is there like a video or something that'll show me how to build coils like this? I've done 6 wraps of 26 GA Kanthal and they end up being some of the most pathetic coils, man.

 

[inspects]

Reuleaux RX200 by Wismec 200W $39.95

And a Uwell Crown, vape for a couple days before changing batteries.

 

[Marc411]

Looks like you're a shooter Mike, after you picked up that AK how many rounds did it take for you to get a good pattern in the 10 ring.

Building is the same way, every RDA and RTA are different and you have to build it and tweak it until you hit your sweet spot. I use the same build in my K4 RTA and when I first got it I put the coil to close to the air flow and it tasted like crap, pull the tank off, pulled the cotton and raised the coil a couple mm and rewicked. It was a completely different vape, great flavor, better air flow and vapor. It's not about the coil you build, it's how you set up the atty once you have that coil built.

I have to many tanks and drippers so once I find a build that rocks I take notes, after a couple builds on the same atty it's memory.

And I'll add these thoughts from another member (MMW, very wise man), it's also about the power you are using with the build, two much or to little power and the build can still taste like crap.

 

[Mike Weatherford Jr]

Looks like you're a shooter Mike, after you picked up that AK how many rounds did it take for you to get a good pattern in the 10 ring.

Building is the same way, every RDA and RTA are different and you have to build it and tweak it until you hit your sweet spot. I use the same build in my K4 RTA and when I first got it I put the coil to close to the air flow and it tasted like crap, pull the tank off, pulled the cotton and raised the coil a couple mm and rewicked. It was a completely different vape, great flavor, better air flow and vapor. It's not about the coil you build, it's how you set up the atty once you have that coil built.

I have to many tanks and drippers so once I find a build that rocks I take notes, after a couple builds on the same atty it's memory.

And I'll add these thoughts from another member (MMW, very wise man), it's also about the power you are using with the build, two much or to little power and the build can still taste like crap.

Sorry for the delayed response, this got lost in my alerts. So, the coil position can effect it? I never would have thought it was that complex. Good to know, though, I'll be rebuilding my tobh come pay day!

Sent from my LGLS740 using Tapatalk

 

[herb]

Well, I was told by the fella who got me vaping that lower ohm produces more flavor and more cloud. I've noticed it to be pretty true, so I figure if .3 ohms gives me good flavor and clouds something like .15 would be even better. My logic could be flawed though.
I like the tanks. I played with a RDA and didn't like having to drip often, or the hit I got from it. That could also be due to the RDA itself. I did enjoy the tinkering and building, though. My best coils were .35.
I'm not really sure of the difference between regulated and unregulated, but I'm looking for a minimum 100 vw, temp control is nice but not a deal breaker for me. I looked myself and couldn't find anything in my price range, maybe I'm looking on the wrong sites?

Man , i would expect a lot better advice from a fella who got you into vaping than to say the above . If your one of those types that worship's max cloudage going lower OHM can help but flavor , a ton of people would strongly disagree with that .

Many pioneers in the e cig industry swear by vaping well under 20 watts and builds above 1.2 for ultimate flavor . After trying every type of build known to man i agree , much better flavor with higher ohm and lower wattage .

Experimentation is key and everyone has their personal preferences though.

 

[Mike Weatherford Jr]

Man , i would expect a lot better advice from a fella who got you into vaping than to say the above . If your one of those types that worship's max cloudage going lower OHM can help but flavor , a ton of people would strongly disagree with that .

Many pioneers in the e cig industry swear by vaping well under 20 watts and builds above 1.2 for ultimate flavor . After trying every type of build known to man i agree , much better flavor with higher ohm and lower wattage .

Experimentation is key and everyone has their personal preferences though.

Yeah I've determined the fella who got me into it is one of those hype vapers, only doing it because it's popular lol. I'll definitely look into the higher ohm lower wattage build.

Sent from my LGLS740 using Tapatalk

 

[herb]

Yeah I've determined the fella who got me into it is one of those hype vapers, only doing it because it's popular lol. I'll definitely look into the higher ohm lower wattage build.

Sent from my LGLS740 using Tapatalk

It takes time to experiment , all i am saying is don't go excessively low on the ohm's , most like 0.5 and higher . Just a year and a half ago most people vaped 1.5- 2.5 ohm's lol. A lot still do .