Burning RDA AT 200watts [Read!]

[riddlesmyth]

Hey hi all, its me again, I'm using Xcube Ultra the 220w mod with Mutation Xs rda - Claption dual build 0.25ohm. I'm a huge fan of higher wattage but i'm scared too, scared of accidents, now the reason i'm creating this thread, after increasing my wattage from 85 to 100+ it seems cool, 5mins ago burned at 200watts and I got a hit on my brain...for real, was it nicotine? All my juices are 3mg...Can you please explain this "The more wattage the better?" well I can still get taste out of 85watts...still no use of using a 220w mod if I dont burn it right? or I'm wrong? lol i'm confused...never gone that high before, please lemmi know!

PS: I'll use my mod again after I'll get reply from you guys, I'm afraid of an accident...or I'm safe? Help me

 

[Storm52]

I'm certain Smok has built in protection for your mod. I doubt seriously that you actually hit 200w with a dual 18660 batteries, but then I'm not a high wattage user. Your brain hit could be attributed to nicotine or something coming from the juice being vaporized at a high temperature. Dial it back down to 85 watts and vape away.

 

[Ryedan]

Hey hi all, its me again, I'm using Xcube Ultra the 220w Mod with Mutation Xs RDA - Claption dual build 0.25ohm. I'm a huge fan of higher wattage but i'm scared too, scared of accidents, now the reason i'm creating this thread, after increasing my wattage from 85 to 100+ it seems cool, 5mins ago burned at 200watts and I got a hit on my brain...for real, was it nicotine? All my juices are 3mg...Can you please explain this "The more wattage the better?" well I can still get taste out of 85watts...still no use of using a 220w mod if I dont burn it right? or I'm wrong? lol i'm confused...never gone that high before, please lemmi know!

PS: I'll use my mod again after I'll get reply from you guys, I'm afraid of an accident...or I'm safe? Help me

No, more watts is not better. Best wattage depends on your atty, the build you have in it, your juice, and how you prefer to vape.

I don't have a Mutation Xs, but I'm vaping a Mutation X V1 right now at about 35 watts. It's a great vape. Looking at pics of the Xs I suspect it isn't designed to go up to anywhere near 200 watts (just like the MX V1) even if you build for that power, but that's just my opinion.

One thing is for sure, if your setup is giving you issues at higher watts, lower the power. This stuff isn't about the most watts wins, it's about the best vape wins. Start low, increase the watts in steps until you pass your sweet spot and then back off until you get back to the best vape for you.

Good luck with it

 

[Mr. Relentless]

Only up the watts if the coil needs it. I made a insane coil that needed 160w just to start firing it. And i only did that to see if it could do it. Unless you have some hu ge duel juggernaut coils you'll burn juice cotton and maybe snap your coils from to much heat.

 

[ScottP]

At temps above 450F juice begins to break down into carcinogenic aldehydes such as formaldehyde. Doing what you did no doubt put you well above that 450F mark. Not sure what caused the "hit on the brain" but it could have been the nic or the aldehydes. Depending on how hot it actually got, the juice may have even been close to combustion. At that point there is no telling what may have been in the vapor. Hell, you may have been actually smoking cotton. Using more than double the power of what a coil needs it not going to be a good idea.

 

[ScottP]

Oh and PRO Tip: Adding [Read!] to a post title will usually get LESS people to read it. I almost skipped it myself, just because of that. I just happened to be bored enough to read it anyway.

 

[Opinionated]

+1 on what @Ryedan said.

As a beside, I've never heard of anyone vaping above 100 watts for any length of time.

The point of higher watt mods is often more about battery life and having a range on those batteries to find that perfect vape for you without over-taxing your batteries .

Average for high wattage vaping is somewhere between 50-75 watts, which would over-tax a single cell device.

How many watts your device will do is neither here nor there.. it's about how many batteries your device will take and what kind of a battery range you have with those batteries, and how much battery life you will have with it.

No one vapes at 200 watts. If you use TC at best your mod might, for a very short burst of time, push the watts higher to heat your coil before putting it back down, but this is controlled by the chip in order to keep you vaping at a certain temp, not you.

The main desire for the individual however, is to vape all day at your prefered wattage without changing out batteries, depending on how you vape you might be able to do that on a single cell 75 watt device, you might need a dual cell "200" watt device, or you may need a triple cell device. .. but that's the point of a higher watt mod. Good battery life within your vaping style.

 

[stols001]

There is a point past which (no matter what the mod maker says) that it's not going to fire that high, due to the fact that there are no two 18650 batteries that will SUPPORT that wattage. And, it's going to be far below 220, I can pretty much guarantee that.

My question is "why" do you want to vape it at 200 watts, and "why" do you think more wattage is better? I am a MTL vaper and usually vape in the 10--12 watt range. It is how I like my vapes and how they are set up. More wattage doesn't do anything for me, with the type of vaping I do. However, I also stay at or below recommended coil life, I do NOT try to vape double the manufacturer's recommendation for a coil, in fact most times, I am below it. However, going ABOVE the manufacturer's recommendation for that coil by DOUBLE likely torched your coil instantly. It's generally not a good plan-- for your coil, for stressing your batteries, and your mod.

I would clean the tank, replace the coil, and stay within recommended wattage on your coil, you aren't going to get anything good at that wattage and so far outside your coil's tolerances. Manufacturers do test these things for a reason which I guess you just discovered.

So start over, and don't go crazy pushing wattages that are unsustainable at any level, and if you want to learn more about battery safety Mooch's blog is a good resource.

Best of luck, welcome to ECF.

Anna

 

[Eskie]

Using 200W for plain old dual Claptons at 0.25 ohm is like using a flamethrower to light your BBQ. No, it will not vape well. Yes, you will shorten the lifespan of the pcb in the mod from all the excessive heat you'll be generating. The head rush I have no idea. I'm surprised you didn't burn your mouth like gobbling down a really hot piece of pizza.

 

[Baditude]

Can you please explain this: "The more wattage the better? ...still no use of using a 220w mod if I dont burn it right?"

Extreme high wattage (over 100 watts) is mainly a marketing strategy for regulated mod manufacturers. Their lone actual benefit is they typically are dual or three battery mods which allow you to vape longer than a single battery mod before needing to change batteries.

And that is not always the case in my experience. My last three mods were:

1. Wisemic RX200 3-battery 200 watt mod.
2. Segelei Fuschai 213 Plus 2-battery 200 watt mod.
3. JAC Vapour series B DNA75 single battery 75 watt mod.

In all three mods I used Samsung 30Q 15/20 amp 3000mah batteries at 30 watts. All three mods gave me a day's use of battery power.

Guess which one is my all day mod? Why would I carry around a large, heavy, clunky 2 or 3 battery mod if I can use a tiny, lightweight, pocket-friendly mod and get the same run time with a single battery?

The first two mods use a Chinese made chip set. The JAC uses a US made DNA chipset made by Evolv.

 

[vapdivrr]

Has to be a nic rush...at such hi wattage, your probably getting much more vapor in a shorter time...if you like that feeling, it would be much better using lower wattages and upping your nic juice. There has been no bad studies done on slightly higher nic and lower temps, but have been negative studies done on higher temps created by to much heat

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[smacuser]

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