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That's interesting 5C. When we were in early beta, Mike and I talked about whether or not using the LR atties or cartos would lessen the overall life of the batteries or even the innards. You drove your beta really hard with the LR gear. I am plenty content to just stay away from anything lower that our Fusions.
 

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Ya the Ultrafires are excellent batteries and the only reason I put the Back/flame Trustfires first is that they are about15 mo. old and still give be as good as any of my ultrafires. It's the Silver trustfires that are weak. All 3 sets are bad now and I believe the LRs had a play in it. The Ultrafires from mike bid great.

Well we have the ULTRAFIRES not Trustfires , I am seeing lower times on OLDER batts but new sets are fine IMO so far.
The silver trustfires were my newest batteries. They are newer than the Black ones and the ultrafires. I will get Ultrafires when I get new batteries again.

My point was that people might be able to find cheap batteries like these silver trustfires but you get what you pay for and the Ultrafires you sell are far superior to these trustfires. All the batts got a workout but the silver trustfires didn't make it.
 
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Oh sorry forgot to put I dont have any of those anymore.:( They went with the original buzz i sold. Funny thing is I couldnt help myself and bought another buzz. This one is Orange (sweet!) If 5C and Mike say a batt is good its gotta be good ;)

Well we have the ULTRAFIRES not Trustfires , I am seeing lower times on OLDER batts but new sets are fine IMO so far.
 

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Isn't that the truth??? Completely agree!

Mikes got good batts at a very reasonable price !!


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My point was that people might be able to find cheap batteries like these silver trustfires but you get what you pay for and the Ultrafires you sell are far superior to these trustfires. All the batts got a workout but the silver trustfires didn't make it.
 
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so get the black TF's with flames, and or the ones notcigs sells... what about the IMR AW's ?

I don't like them because they're only 550 mah. The ones Mike sells are 880 mah. I get way less time because of it. Oh and they cost allot more for less time so it's a no brainer. The Black/flames are good but the Ultrafires Mike sells are just as good and more convenient for me to buy.
 
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Thanks Mike. I like to pass on information that will help the rest of the Army when I find it.

This will help A LOT when people go off trying to save $0.14 per battery LMAO ! that is why I make mine lower cost so they buy a battery I KNOW works !
 

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there you go... from the horse's mouth.

no fuss no muss, it works the first time every time because the builder designed it for optimal function.

can't go wrong, and the price is right too... big plus.

This will help A LOT when people go off trying to save $0.14 per battery LMAO ! that is why I make mine lower cost so they buy a battery I KNOW works !
 

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Now as I said, each set of batteries got the same punishment so they should all perform the same if they're comparable. Well now I all ready posted a difference but here is another test I just ran on the Ultrafires Mike sells and the Trustfires that look the same but aren't.
On the Ultrafires from notcig at 4.40 volts with a fusion on it the loaded voltage was always 3.37 or 3.38
On the Trutfire look alike at the same 4.40 volts with the same Fusion carto the loaded voltage never had the same value. It was anywhere from 2.60volts to 3.35volts loaded but never the same loaded voltage.
 

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Now as I said, each set of batteries got the same punishment so they should all perform the same if they're comparable. Well now I all ready posted a difference but here is another test I just ran on the Ultrafires Mike sells and the Trustfires that look the same but aren't.
On the Ultrafires from notcig at 4.40 volts with a fusion on it the loaded voltage was always 3.37 or 3.38
On the Trutfire look alike at the same 4.40 volts with the same Fusion carto the loaded voltage never had the same value. It was anywhere from 2.60volts to 3.35volts loaded but never the same loaded voltage.

Good info again 5 ! , how old are that set ? Li-ion batteries DO wear out over charge cycles , ours are rated for 300 charge cycles
 

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Well 2 things. After the beating my lungs took and toasting 3 sets of batteries (all silver Trustfires) I'll never use LR trash or Trustfire silvers on my PVs again. I don't need to be showed twice. Oh except for testing. I getting that LR testing down pretty well and have learned allot about it. Now they have a triple coil in the works because of all the money they made from the people that just don't understand electronics. If they ever come out with one that's not LR i'd be interested.
 

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Well 2 things. After the beating my lungs took and toasting 3 sets of batteries (all silver Trustfires) I'll never use LR trash or Trustfire silvers on my PVs again. I don't need to be showed twice. Oh except for testing. I getting that LR testing down pretty well and have learned allot about it. Now they have a triple coil in the works because of all the money they made from the people that just don't understand electronics. If they ever come out with one that's not LR i'd be interested.

Triple coil? That is just crazy. If they use the 3.2 ohm coils they used in the dual coil - 3 - 3.2 ohm coils in parallel would be a total resistance of 1.06 ohms - that's nuts - that's about 4 Amps at 4 Volts.

If they made a dual coil carto with 2 - 5 ohm coils in parallel I would give them a try - that would be 2.5 ohms resistance to the pv.
 

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Well 2 things. After the beating my lungs took and toasting 3 sets of batteries (all silver Trustfires) I'll never use LR trash or Trustfire silvers on my PVs again. I don't need to be showed twice. Oh except for testing. I getting that LR testing down pretty well and have learned allot about it. Now they have a triple coil in the works because of all the money they made from the people that just don't understand electronics. If they ever come out with one that's not LR i'd be interested.

All "we people" have to understand is how much more flavor we get with 2 coils than with one :) Really all that matters lol Whether it was 1 long coil that covered more surface or 2 coils the only thing that "we people" care about is how much more flavor we get and how much harder it is to burn the filling :)
 

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I have no doubt that they will push it until somebodies batteries EXPLODE in their face from mis-use. The they will try to sue the Battery maker and not the Carto makers !!

Increased surface area is a GOOD IDEA but use proper design techniques to get there. like a .5" long coil with 30 wraps in it or something.
 
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