Buzz Pro status update

[moorea]

OK... I have been reading all the latest posts and I do not want to be unsafe!

I am still loving my Liquinator from vaporescence.com. When I purchased it I got a handful of the LR cartomizers that they sell with it and a handful of the regular cartomizers. I believe the ones they sell with it are the Boges. What I do not know is what ohms the LR or the regular cartomizers are. They do not tell you on the site. So first question is does anyone know what ohms are these two cartomizers. I assume once my Buzz Pro gets here I can vape at any voltage with the regular ones. But what voltage is it safe to go up to on the Buzz Pro with the LR Boge cartomizers that come with the liquinator?

 

[moorea]

I will have clear or as you call it white Infinity Pro

Very Cool! Still don't know what color Buzz Pro I am getting, but I will be ordering a white/clear infinity pro when they are ready! If I was a patient person I would just order the Buzz Pro for my husband and wait until the infinity pro comes out for myself... But my impatience seems to be Mikes gain as I don't want to wait 5 or 6 weeks! So I am going to order the two Buzz Pro's, then when the infinity pro comes out, use the second Buzz Pro as a backup!

 

[kwcharlie]

fsroq the problem is the current draw required from the batteries they are NOT designed for this type of current draw it makes them unsafe ! you would have to use Aw type batteries , I could make a mod that delivered 20 amps IF I wanted to that is not the point , the point is that Smoketech in China does NOT care and are putting out potentially dangerous products and do not give a .... !

Mike, since you brought it up, did you ever publish the drawings of your atty work ? I know you sent me some and it was the same time Raidy started posting in ECF about his work, pointing his genisis out to you got us PM’ing about your work. Well raidy is all about people (especially ones in Poland) making money now off “his” idea, with him being German it’s like 1939 all over again there. Just asking, Mike, don’t get those old attys out again, STICK with the buzz work.

 

[mianker]

Well my PCB house just skyped me and they are finishing assembly and will start testing them today !!! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA they should ship in a few days now

WOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO We may not be there yet but at least we can see a tiny glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel.

 

[kwcharlie]

Oh YA, that's what the USAF told us, then they stopped bombing the North and it turned into A TRAIN HEADING FOR US, hope Mike has better luck

 

[mianker]

My money is on Mike or at least will be as soon as the BuzzPro is released.

 

[markfm]

LR Boge is most likely 2 ohm if it's a 510 connector, perhaps up in the 2.4 - 2.6 ohm zone if it's a KR808D-1 connector. Standard resistance in 510 is around 2.5 ohm, while on 808 it's 3 ohm. Higher resistance, cooler, cartos run about another +0.4 ohms (2.9 - 3 and 3.4, respectively).

Mike or someone knowledgeable would know the safe voltages. For me, I use higher resistance cartos (3.4 ohm 808 connector) -- plenty of warmth, let the voltage provide the power rather than current. As a simple example, say you want a 10 watt vape. Using a 3.4 ohm carto that means voltage = 5.8 V, and current = 1.7A. Dropping to a 2.5 ohm carto, same 10W power, voltage = 5V, and current = 2 amps. You are using 15% more current to get the 10W at 2.5 ohms compared to 3.4 ohms, you'll have longer run time using the higher resistance cartos between recharges.

The above works because the Buzz and Infinity have stacked batteries, so under the hood there's really a > 6V battery source. Using anything up to the maximum allowed voltage is a free ride, voltage wise. Some non-notcig mods use a single battery and booster circuitry, so I don't know how well they work at higher voltages -- they have to up-convert the voltage.

 

[5cardstud]

OK... I have been reading all the latest posts and I do not want to be unsafe!

I am still loving my Liquinator from vaporescence.com. When I purchased it I got a handful of the LR cartomizers that they sell with it and a handful of the regular cartomizers. I believe the ones they sell with it are the Boges. What I do not know is what ohms the LR or the regular cartomizers are. They do not tell you on the site. So first question is does anyone know what ohms are these two cartomizers. I assume once my Buzz Pro gets here I can vape at any voltage with the regular ones. But what voltage is it safe to go up to on the Buzz Pro with the LR Boge cartomizers that come with the liquinator?

Moorea if you read the ( http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/notcigs/187979-buzz-pro-beta-test-results.html ) Buzz pro beta tests I did on LR stuff you'll see all the voltage levels I tested them for but be aware that I also burned up 3 sets of batteries testing LR stuff. LR was made because after everyone went to HV mods the 3.7 volt ecig makers like the 510, 808, 901, etc. had to do something to compete so they lowered the resistance which made for a hotter vape. It was intended for 3.7 volt ecigs but they worked good there so people just figured they would work good at the higher volt mods. If you check you'll find that it's very damaging to your batteries. ( http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-issues/189736-lr-harder-batteries.html ) The problem is people don't want to know anything that's bad about their favorite gear.

 

[mwa102464]

What brand of Batts did you burn up 5Card ?

 

[5cardstud]

What brand of Batts did you burn up 5Card ?

The silver colored 16340 Trustfires.

 

[moorea]

Moorea if you read the ( http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/notcigs/187979-buzz-pro-beta-test-results.html ) Buzz pro beta tests I did on LR stuff you'll see all the voltage levels I tested them for but be aware that I also burned up 3 sets of batteries testing LR stuff. LR was made because after everyone went to HV mods the 3.7 volt ecig makers like the 510, 808, 901, etc. had to do something to compete so they lowered the resistance which made for a hotter vape. It was intended for 3.7 volt ecigs but they worked good there so people just figured they would work good at the higher volt mods. If you check you'll find that it's very damaging to your batteries. ( http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-issues/189736-lr-harder-batteries.html ) The problem is people don't want to know anything that's bad about their favorite gear.

Hi 5card, yes I read every bit of your betta testing. Problem was at the time I did not get some of the results... I think I have a little better understanding now.

I also heard you loud and clear regarding LR and higher volts. And per your suggestion I do not intend to purchase LR once I get my Pro, but I am still vapiing on my 3.7 tornado (50% of the time when the husband is using wharf's buzz), and almost every atty/carto I have is LR. Previous posts discussed that batteries can explode if your ohm gets to low and voltage gets to high (assuming I read that correctly) so I just wanted to know once my pro gets here (and I am using up the LR attys/cartos I have left) what would be a safe voltage.

 

[bmwjen]

Yay!!! On the buzz pro progress!!!

Convos like this are why i like subforums. I learn stuff!

The triple coil carto premiered just over a week ago & the vendor stressed over & over that they must be used on at least a 5v device. I specifically asked this vendor about the infinity, & the vendor told me to "talk to buzz"....then & there i knew the answer.

I am so not gonna ruin my stuff or burn thru batts because of a new "cool" carto.


Yay!!! We r one step closer to the buzz pro!!!!!! Omfg!!!!!!

sent from my always glamorous Android using Tapatalk

 

[ukeman]

This info on the effects of LR on batts and PV's is thanks to you technical ones who do the thinking and testing...

I only know from using them that 1. they are a hotter vape... 1.5 is usually too hot for me even on some 3.7 PV's. (the DC has made it a bit cooler, so all the fuss).

(don't forget; btw, "3.7" pv's are not true voltage... more like 3.2 to 3.4v) Buzz Pro will be true voltage due to buck boost regulated.

What we consumers have been told is that LR will not last as long. If it wasn't for the Dual Coil carto we'd probably not be talking about LR much.

I think we will have our Buzz Pro's before this all gets sorted out.... yay!

Hi 5card, yes I read every bit of your betta testing. Problem was at the time I did not get some of the results... I think I have a little better understanding now.

I also heard you loud and clear regarding LR and higher volts. And per your suggestion I do not intend to purchase LR once I get my Pro, but I am still vapiing on my 3.7 tornado (50% of the time when the husband is using wharf's buzz), and almost every atty/carto I have is LR. Previous posts discussed that batteries can explode if your ohm gets to low and voltage gets to high (assuming I read that correctly) so I just wanted to know once my pro gets here (and I am using up the LR attys/cartos I have left) what would be a safe voltage.

 

[BuzzKill]

Hi 5card, yes I read every bit of your betta testing. Problem was at the time I did not get some of the results... I think I have a little better understanding now.

I also heard you loud and clear regarding LR and higher volts. And per your suggestion I do not intend to purchase LR once I get my Pro, but I am still vapiing on my 3.7 tornado (50% of the time when the husband is using wharf's buzz), and almost every atty/carto I have is LR. Previous posts discussed that batteries can explode if your ohm gets to low and voltage gets to high (assuming I read that correctly) so I just wanted to know once my pro gets here (and I am using up the LR attys/cartos I have left) what would be a safe voltage.

You are getting it now ! at 2 ohms and above you can use any voltage the Buzz Pro will put out 3.3 - 5.5 volts .

Yay!!! On the buzz pro progress!!!

Convos like this are why i like subforums. I learn stuff!

The triple coil carto premiered just over a week ago & the vendor stressed over & over that they must be used on at least a 5v device. I specifically asked this vendor about the infinity, & the vendor told me to "talk to buzz"....then & there i knew the answer.

I am so not gonna ruin my stuff or burn thru batts because of a new "cool" carto.


Yay!!! We r one step closer to the buzz pro!!!!!! Omfg!!!!!!

sent from my always glamorous Android using Tapatalk

Unfortunately some vendors do not care about what is happening they only care about profit and what i9d cool this week regardless of the outcome , I am not saying batteries WILL explode BUT they are much more likely to with these currents and resistances.

 

[markfm]

Buzz always trying to be a buzzkill; 1.5 ohms, 6 volts -- only a 4 amp draw, 24 watts...
(I'm happy at 4.5 - 5V, 3.4 ohms, down in the 6 - 8 W zone. 24W???)

 

[5cardstud]

Hi 5card, yes I read every bit of your betta testing. Problem was at the time I did not get some of the results... I think I have a little better understanding now.

I also heard you loud and clear regarding LR and higher volts. And per your suggestion I do not intend to purchase LR once I get my Pro, but I am still vapiing on my 3.7 tornado (50% of the time when the husband is using wharf's buzz), and almost every atty/carto I have is LR. Previous posts discussed that batteries can explode if your ohm gets to low and voltage gets to high (assuming I read that correctly) so I just wanted to know once my pro gets here (and I am using up the LR attys/cartos I have left) what would be a safe voltage.

The ones with exploding batteries are people using unprotected batteries. I wouldn't worry about them exploding as Moke sells protected batteries and his devices have overload protection on them. About alls will happen is they just won't fire if they're too low I was just trying to let you know they're bad on higher voltage mods. Some responsible vendors post that warning on their LR carto page.

 

[5cardstud]

Buzz always trying to be a buzzkill; 1.5 ohms, 6 volts -- only a 4 amp draw, 24 watts...
(I'm happy at 4.5 - 5V, 3.4 ohms, down in the 6 - 8 W zone. 24W???)

Never catch me vaping at 24Watts unless it's the 4th of July and I'm out of fireworks.

 

[kwcharlie]

You don’t want to check the flammability of a fussion or your tube? I bet Gummy Bear would

 

[BuzzKill]

Pretty pix

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Ya I am keeping Number 1 LOL , or maybe auction it off ???

 

[5cardstud]

Damn, Them are sweet. I really like them. So all you need now is the pcb right?
BTW Mike, I want #5

You don’t want to check the flammability of a fussion or your tube? I bet Gummy Bear would

No I like them right where they're at. I haven't tried any DCs that put out more vapor or better flavor than this mega 808 tank or a Fusion.