For those that care I will be doing an in depth video series on the ones from jack at happyvaper.com this weekend. I am going to video the entire thing from opening to filling to first try and maybe a few differant ways of first firing them (aka wet wick, letting sit, whatever) because it seems funny to me how polar opposite people are on these, and while i did see grimm not like them and respect his videos I wonder if he hadn't burnt the wick on first go and that be why his taste was bad, also even with burnt wick that was some SERIOUS vaper it was kicking out. Keep an eye on my youtube channel at YouTube - vapetrader's Channel if you want to see it.
still watching for this hope its up soon