Ay Up again Perfectionist.
Wassup Happy Vaper !!
You are correct - Vaping is LEGAL in pubs. The MHRA outcome will have no effect on that at all. Vaping will still be legal in pubs.
Can you be certain that it will remain so in the future? More importantly can Pub Landlords ??
Trying to promote vaping in pubs to smokers and publicans is a completely different issue to whether or not the liquid that is vaped contains nicotine or not - there are other ways of getting nicotine.
If the dastardly MHRA do get their evil way - do you think it will encourage Pubs to promote Vaping or discourage them ??
In the 1970s, real ales were perfectly legal and legit. Drinkers and publicans new about them, but they preferred to stick with Whitbread Trophy Bitter instead! CAMRA helped educate and increase awareness of the great real ales out their and promote many of the smaller brewers. My drinking experience on a night out improved drastically thanks to the work of that organisation.
True ...... but there are a number of major differences here :
1) Drinking has been around for millennia - Vaping has been around about 5 minutes ...... you're pretty much starting from scratch at the most inopportune time ......
2) The majority of the population are Drinkers - the majority of the population are NOT Smokers ...... there is far less support and indeed much belligerence from rabid non-smoking over-zealous health freaks !!
3) The Legal and Health risks of alcohol are established and accepted - they are unknown and open to manipulation with Vaping ...... the "rules" can (and probably will) keep changing for a long while yet ......
4) There was no "Anti-Ale" movement as such - there IS a vehement and powerful "Anti-Vaping" lobby
Basically CAMRA let the Alcohol Industry know there was a Demand for Ale - and so the Industry responded and Supplied
With Vaping it's almost the exact opposite - everybody knows there is a rapidly growing Demand, but the "Industry" is (slowly and surely!) trying to suppress/control the Supply ...... or do you disagree ??
As a smoker, the Health Act 2006 and the subsequent Smoking Ban in July 2007, drastically removed my drinking experience on a night out! I stopped going out because I was sick of freezing my bits off outside whilst my non-smoking mates were having a laugh and enjoying themselves inside. I literally became an outsider in my circle of friends.
Dude, you're becoming all melodramatic like KissMeKate !! The Smoking ban has hit millions in the UK and yes it's a pain - but it's not causing the breakdown of society !! I never lost any friends just cos I nipped out for a quick drag !! In fact I actually made some more friends that way !!
To outsiders looking in, exaggerating the problem just makes us look weak and hysterical ...... as amply demonstrated on YouTube by the likes of Hifi Geordie and Jason Come A Cropper etc ......
In June 2009, I
switched from
illegal Smoking to
legal Vaping and have enjoyed many a great night out with my mates, drinking real ale and vaping. I have never been happier
Vape On Dude !!
The reason for setting up the CAM-VIP organisation NOW is to develop educational material to spread the word around our pubs that Vaping is the legal alternative to Smoking in Pubs - simple as that!
That's my point - it is NOT simple as that at all Bro !! There are huge forces working against Vaping !! The MHRA malarkey is just the first battle, there will be many more to come !! Or do you think otherwise ??
1) Big Government does not want to lose Tax Revenues from Tobacco
2) Big Tobacco does not want to see its Market dwindle and lose Profits
3) Big Pharma does not want to give up it's Monopoly on NRT
These are all well known - but the elephant in the room is the fact that the overwhelming majority of the population don't give a damn about Vapers and Smokers (aka potential Vapers!)
Like Burke said, "All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world, is for enough good men to do nothing" ...... read "forces of evil" as being BG/BT/BP and "good men doing nothing" as the General Non-Smoking Public, and you'll get the picture ......
