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Read the listed ingredients. If there’s nothing harmful to vape, they’ll be fine to try. Some used for cooking etc aren’t quite strong enough for DIY but being they came from a bakery shop, they might be the same as what we use. Theres am Amish Market not too far from me which has the best prices I’ve seen on LorAnn flavorings and a couple brands I’m not familiar with. I purchased one of each of these unfamiliar brands to try as I knew by reading the ingredients they’re just as safe as the flavoring we normally use. If your not familiar with an ingredient, look it up or if need be bring the unknown ingredient(s) here and we’ll see if we can’t help you.
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I just added like 10ml of strawberry flavor to 25ml juice I already had. I wanted to add 5ml, but accidentally... Anyway, I shook it for 5 minutes. The mix became opaque. Is it normal? I wanted to try it before steeping (or whatever else needed, I'm yet to learn DIY from scratch). After a few puffs I felt sick.
On the bottle is written "this is a sample" and "ingredients are standard according to the national FDA". That's all.
On the bottle is written "this is a sample" and "ingredients are standard according to the national FDA". That's all.
Adding 10ml of flavoring is way too much. Even adding 5ml of flavor to a mixed juice is too much.
I’d say that was probably way too much flavoring as sometimes only mere drops are needed. Whats the name of the brand? I’ll see what I can find.
A couple things about flavorings. The flavors we use in vaping are water soluble and are either alcohol based or PG based.
Not just any flavoring will work for vaping. You want to avoid oil based flavorings, for instance, that have oil as the main ingredient and are described as oil soluble.
The main ingredient of any flavoring we use has a first preference of being PG based and will have PG listed as the main ingredient. Alcohol is second unless you have a PG allergy.
Water soluble is a must, and we don't use flavorings with food coloring added.
Most flavorings are used at around 2-5% of your recipe.
Not just any flavoring will work for vaping. You want to avoid oil based flavorings, for instance, that have oil as the main ingredient and are described as oil soluble.
The main ingredient of any flavoring we use has a first preference of being PG based and will have PG listed as the main ingredient. Alcohol is second unless you have a PG allergy.
Water soluble is a must, and we don't use flavorings with food coloring added.
Most flavorings are used at around 2-5% of your recipe.
Wanted to add this in case OP or anyone else finds other flavorings that may be like these, which are also fine:
Some brands we use for vaping now also make VG based flavorings. Others also have flavorings that are a combination base of PG and VG (like some of OSDIY's One Stop Flavors and One Stop Blends).
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I'm obviously outdated then! Learn something new every day...
Although this gentleman lives in Iran so it's likely he doesn't have the same access we do..
I agree.
I posted because others new to DIY are likely to read this thread, too. They may have access to the flavorings other than the PG based or alcohol based.
I won't comment any more on what you post though. Didn't mean to offend you.
Oh goodness no, you didn't offend me at all... no worries it's great information for all DIY-ers..
I honestly wouldn't use bakery flavors, because 1) it's a bit of an unknown what is in them, and they may need to be modified to work in DIY, also, it's entirely possible that bakery flavors are created at a very different potency level (higher or lower) than most standard vaping flavors (although those vary in potency too, but it's easier to find out the potency by reviews and other folks using those flavors.
If you can avoid it, I would and the fact that you got sick may tell you something.
In the US in a few years we may all indeed be using bakery flavors if there's a flavor ban, but I'd expect some serious knowledge base and information about how to use those flavors safely would be developed and etc.
Best of luck,
Anna
If you can avoid it, I would and the fact that you got sick may tell you something.
In the US in a few years we may all indeed be using bakery flavors if there's a flavor ban, but I'd expect some serious knowledge base and information about how to use those flavors safely would be developed and etc.
Best of luck,
Anna
2nd this
With the exception of a couple lines, I believe most of what we use was meant for baking and candy making etc. That being said, that doesn’t mean they’re all safe for vaping and it’s true that they’re unknown as far as how to use them because they aren’t the brands we usually use etc.
Water solubility is what I would look for. Years age, we used a simple test for oil in flavors. Pour 10-20 cm of distilled/bottle water in a small crystal clear bowl. Place a drop of the flavor in question and observe in a well lighted area. If the drop completely disappears, the flavoring is probably ok to vape. If you see any trace of the flavoring floating on the top of the water in droplet form, chances are, you have a non soluble oil based flavor that I would not recommend you vape.
Not sure what you mean by opacity. If it was a clear flavoring and a clear liquid and it sort of looks like trying to look through crystals after mixing my spearmint does that and some of my apples do that (all from vape centric manufacturers). I've heard apples do that in VG, which I am limited to. I see no harm in it, something isn't mixing with something else, you probably have to shake that one often.
@Asmani If by opaque you mean it looked cloudy and almost frothy or filled with many tiny bubbles, this is normal. The VG in the juice causes the cloudy like appearance just after mixing. The tiny bubbles are what you’re looking for after mixing or shaking well. If the change is mainly due to mixing, it’ll settled and clear after a bit. If you mean the change in color after adding the flavoring, it’s probably because you added way too much and probably shouldn’t nor want to vape it.
Clouds and froth are normal after shaking yes, was it the flavoring itself that was cloudy, or the finished product? Most of my flavors that are colorless are clear (once they heat up from being in the refrigerator) but it's also possible as @NatashaTMT is saying that your mix was just insanely overflavored. I suppose TOO MUCH flavoring could cause opacity.
I guess the water test is the first thing you want to do. If that comes back okay, well, I guess you could go ahead and try a mix with FAR less flavoring and see how it turns out. It's probably going to require some steeping like any other flavoring, although how long is anyone's guess.
Report back, please! We may all be using these at some point so your experiences are kind of interesting
Anna
I guess the water test is the first thing you want to do. If that comes back okay, well, I guess you could go ahead and try a mix with FAR less flavoring and see how it turns out. It's probably going to require some steeping like any other flavoring, although how long is anyone's guess.
Report back, please! We may all be using these at some point so your experiences are kind of interesting
Anna
What I mean by opaque is something like the right bottle in this picture:
Picture from: Cloudy/Opaque E-liquid ??? | ALL ABOUT E-CIGARETTES UK
Picture from: Cloudy/Opaque E-liquid ??? | ALL ABOUT E-CIGARETTES UK
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