Can someone please bring me up to date?

[BadHabit]

I have not been on this board for a year or two and am not up to what's happening. Back in my day, there was the Ego and atty, and you either dripped or used carts. It was somewhat messy and leaked. I remember they were just coming out with cartomizers, clearomizers and tanks - not usre I know the difference. I tried some of it back then and didn't feel it was anything to jump up and down about.

What I would like is something that is not huge, but has enough vape in it to last awhile without constant refilling. It seems there are a few that have glass instead of plastic. I would think that would help keep the juice a little more fresh and help it not to discolor.

Can you bring me up to date?

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

Lots to chose from now-a-days.

Do you have a budget or just looking for something that'll do the trick?

Provari mini isn't going to fail you in the power section department. Small but you'll get a lot of use out of it without as much as a single issue.

As for atomizers there really are a boat load of options available to you that do just about anything and everything you could want out of a vape.

Maybe describe what you want from your vaping experience. Do you want some resistance to your inhale or would you prefer an easy inhale, do you want to fiddle with making coils or not so much, do you want to just be able to lay your device down on its side and not worry about it or are you willing to keep it upright at all times, do you want lots of vapor, flavor, both, etc.

Maurice

 

[BadHabit]

I wasn't thinking of a mod or something expensive. Something in the eGo class. Not necessarily a large and long battery. Perhaps something that can go into your pocket. Something you can lay on its side. Soemthing easy to fill.

 

[WharfRat1976]

Well I would recommend a Vision Spinner battery with a Kanger Protank Mini2 on top. Filling the tank is a tad fiddly but not too bad and the vape is extraordinary for such a small device. I can do the fill with zero leakage. The battery has a screw on USB charger for ease of charging. I am still on my first coil about 5 days into it. It is cost effective, portable and looks good. I have the silver spinner that matches well with the silver tank. Good luck and let us know what you end up doing.

Here are links to the devices:

Vision Spinner VV eGo Battery 1300mAh

Mini Kanger Protank 2 Mini Pro Tank Glassomizer

 

[joecil]

Here is what I got for my son when he decided to switch from cigarettes. The iTaste MVP 2.0 (only have blue and silver still in stock) Innokin iTaste MVP V2.0 - 101 Vape and a Kanger Pro tank but a better tank would be a Aspire Nautilus or Kanger Mega/Mini tanks which all have air control and hold some fluid. Oh and the Nautilus holds 5ml so that is more than the Kanger Mega which I think is about 4ml but not sure.

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

I haven't really messed with the small format devices but it seems the vision spinner has a good following as well as the protank mini.

Maurice

 

[antony73]

The Spinners really are good, I have two of them. Just treat them with care. They seem not as robust as the ego. I've dropped my ego many times, and it's fine. I dropped my Spinner once, and it has problems now.

EVODs are also really good. EVODs have a warmer vape than the Mini and a tighter draw. The EVOD has a plastic tank, whereas the Mini has a glass tank. I personally prefer the EVODs, but it seems most people prefer the Mini.

If you do buy a Spinner, you'll need at least two, (one for a backup). If you buy an MVP, you'll need only one.

Check out this LINK. Baditude has written a great blog explaining all the differences for 'Juice Attachments.'

Also by Baditude, 'A Good Starter's Setup for a Beginning Vapor.'

 

[Ladiekali]

Itaste vv3, better than a spinner imo.
Will lay flat with out rolling and fit in the pocket. And is vv/vw
Pair it with a mini protank 2. Or aspire bdc et-s. Or even iclear 16.
All can be found at www.desertvapes.com for more than reasonable prices.
I use all of the above and really enjoy them all.

I prefer my provari but that is pricier
Also have the mvp2 but it is bigger and isnt as pocket friendly.


I sold my spinner. It was ok. But i liked the vv3 better. Sleeker design, it doesnt roll, it is easy to charge and you can vape on it as its charging. Car phone charging compatable so charge on the go.

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

A friend of mine has the itaste vv, it is what I initially was considering when I got into vaping. I went with the MVP and really think it is a more robust device in all aspects. The itaste vv my friend owns is looking a bit like it was rode hard and put up wet while the MVP looks really nice considering the hell I've put it through.

I certainly have kept my MVP in my pocket, anywhere I went, the plastic iclear16 clearomizers didn't live through that adventure very long but a swap to the iclear30 fixed the pocket durability issue.

Maurice

 

[Ladiekali]

I have both. For $25 the vv3 is a good battery. It is still in my usual rotation. Nice when I need something light to carry.

I say get the vv3and the mvp2.
I do use my mvp more and enjoy the vape better, it seems to have more power.

But it is in fact big.no bigger than a pack of smokes.

 

[zapped]

OP what posters are referring to in this thread as tanks are actually clearomizers or rebuildable atomizers.

They all have a tank-like appearance in that they have a juice reservoir but thats where the similarities end.

Clearomizers or clearo tanks use a head or coil that wicks juice.

http://www.ecig-vapo.com/clearomizer-vivi-nova-v20-original-sailebao-p-243.html

Rebuildables are set up so you can use your own kanthal wire and cotton, silica or bamboo wicks and wrap your own heads.

http://www.smoktek.com/Phoenix-style-rebuildable-atomizer_p_440.html

The tanks you mention in your post are carto tanks.

http://phiniac.com/cid-41-1/frosted.html

They are basically pre-punched or slotted cartos that you slide into plastic or glass tanks.

Of the three, clearo tanks and carto tanks are easier for a beginner.

I recommend seeking out Baditude. He has some excellent pictures and a how-to on carto tanks on his blog that does a wonderful job in explaining the differences.

 

[CKCalmer]

Hi BadHabit, and welcome back!

You've gotten a bunch of really good advice here so far, most of it on tanks/clearos it seems. So I'll give you my recommendation for a power unit. Something light, portable, easy to use, but with several really great features that are usually only found on mods.

SLB eGo-V v3 Mega

$36.99. Most places I've seen it have it for about the same price. I bought mine from GotVapes, but Vivid Smoke has a prettier site (in my opinion) for checking out the product.

Manufacturer: SLB (SAILEBAO).
Product Page: SLB eGo-V V3 Mega.

I've read that SLB makes very good quality products, and now that I have one, I can attest to the same. I was impressed with my Halo ("eGo-like") Triton's build quality, but my SLB is noticeably better.

Yes, it's almost the same price as a mod. But for me, the light weight and (slightly fatter than usual) eGo form factor is great for portability, passthrough is always a nice feature that most mods and eGo devices don't have, 3.0-6.0v rather than the more common 3.3-4.8v, 3.0-15.0w with 0.1w increments instead of the more common 0.5w increments, 14s cutoff rather than the more common 10s one and having an onboard ohm meter is always nice. Those are the things which made this $37 eGo device well worth the cost for me.

------------ FEATURES

1300 mAh battery
eGo and 510 threaded
Variable voltage (VV) 3.0v - 6.0v in 0.1v increments (most VV eGo's are 3.3v - 4.8v)
Variable wattage (VW) 3.0w - 15.0w in 0.1w increments (most VW devices only have 0.5w increments)
2.5A maximum current (most devices I've seen have a 2A maximum current limit)
LCD¹ display, two buttons (+/-) for feature selection/usage
14s safety cutoff (most devices have a 10s cutoff)
Ohm meter
Passthrough charging with included USB charging cable

Hold "-" button for 5 seconds for ohm meter
Hold "+" button for 5 seconds to toggle between VV and VW
Hold both "+" and "-" buttons for 5 seconds to lock the +/- buttons (so you can't accidentally change your settings)
Hold fire button for 5 seconds to turn unit on or off

It doesn't come with a wall adapter, but practically any USB-to-AC wall adapter should work. I use the one from my Halo Triton starter kit, which works fine with it. To be sure a particular adapter is compatible, the first time you charge the unit have it next to you the whole time (generally good practice to be safe when charging new batteries or devices, anyway). (1) Make sure the backlight on the LCD screen is on. If it's not charging, the screen's backlight will remain off. (2) Every now and then pick up the unit and make sure it's not becoming warm. If the unit feels cool to the touch throughout the charge cycle, then all is well. (But you may already know that part.) The LCD's backlight will turn off when charging is complete. It takes 3-4 hours to deliver a full charge to the unit.

------------ PACKAGE CONTENTS

1 x SLB eGo-V V3 Mega 1300mAh Battery Unit
1 x USB Charging Cable

¹ - I've seen places, including the vendor from whom I bought mine, say that the SLB eGo-V V3 Mega's display is OLED (organic light emitting diode) rather than LCD (liquid crystal display). The manufacturer's site and their owner's manual don't say either way. So who knows? It looks like LCD to me, though, rather than OLED.

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And of course, the hardware is manufactured in China, where everything else on Earth is made.

(I always wondered what China would be like to visit. When my plane lands, I would take a taxi and weave between all of the millions of hardware factories which cover China border to border, reminiscent of Star Wars' Coruscant or Asimov's Trantor. I would rent a room in a floating hotel, hovering over the myriad factory buildings, because there is no room for anything else on the ground. No wonder China needs a population of 64 billion people. They build everything in the known universe.)

 

[realsis]

Also if this wasn't mentioned already take a look at the innokin MVP2. It's a great little unit and battery lasts forever! It's a 2600 mah battery you can even charge your cell phone with. This little guy goes up to 11 volts and in between and 5 watts. She is a box mod but is a LOT smaller in person thebut in the pic. She fits absolutely perfectly in your hand and the button is placed perfectly for fireing. It's around 60 dollars or so but the MVP2 with a Kay fun or Tai fun rebuildable tank is a really great vape. Trust me you will NOT be disappointed with the mvp2. You can control the volts and the watts and it gives a great consistent vape, just check out the reviews. If you want a more advanced mod with a DNA chip, I'd recommend a hanna mod 30. It goes to 30 watts. They also have a DNA 20 that goes to 20 watts. They are very expensive but you can get a clone for a pro 70 or 80 dollars. Please Google these two items and check out the specs on them and see what you think. Hope this helps and best wishes

 

[Haadkoe]

OP what posters are referring to in this thread as tanks are actually clearomizers or rebuildable atomizers.

They all have a tank-like appearance in that they have a juice reservoir but thats where the similarities end.

Clearomizers or clearo tanks use a head or coil that wicks juice.

Vivi Nova V20 Clearomizer Sailebao

Rebuildables are set up so you can use your own kanthal wire and cotton, silica or bamboo wicks and wrap your own heads.

Phoenix style rebuildable atomizer

The tanks you mention in your post are carto tanks.

Sandblasted Tanks - Phiniac Glass

They are basically pre-punched or slotted cartos that you slide into plastic or glass tanks.

Of the three, clearo tanks and carto tanks are easier for a beginner.

I recommend seeking out Baditude. He has some excellent pictures and a how-to on carto tanks on his blog that does a wonderful job in explaining the differences.

Ok, I understand what clearo and carto tanks are, but what makes a regular tank a tank these days? (I remember the 510t and egot, both of which sucked horribly as tank systems, just not up on my present day gear)

 

[StrafeMalone]

Ok, I understand what clearo and carto tanks are, but what makes a regular tank a tank these days? (I remember the 510t and egot, both of which sucked horribly as tank systems, just not up on my present day gear)

I don't think that there are "regular" tanks any more. The options out there are just mind blowing and you really have to experiment to find what makes a perfect vape for you. I have a friend that uses an old 600 mah pass through evod battery with an evod tank and she loves it. My wife uses Ego twists with iClear 16 top wicks and she loves those. I use a MVPv2 with a number of different tanks and a Caravela 18350 Clone with a Caterpillar RDA and love all of it. I see people that swear by the Provari and those that hate them. The best advice I have for you is locate a brick and mortar store that is near you that is staffed by knowledgeable people and ask if they will let you handle some stuff. Also research (you are doing this I know) and read reviews on things you think you might like. (sorry if this seams a little long winded, but I hate when people ask opinions and get responses along the lines of "my opinion is all that matters" {this has not happened so far} and I wanted to throw several suggestions out there)


Edit: I also have a friend that loves (borderline obsession) iClear 16d tanks and none us (his fellow vaper friends) understand why.

 

[zapped]

Ok, I understand what clearo and carto tanks are, but what makes a regular tank a tank these days? (I remember the 510t and egot, both of which sucked horribly as tank systems, just not up on my present day gear)

Ditto what others have said.Tank is sort of used interchangeably for many different juice delivery devices and causes a fair bit of confusion here on the forums.

When in doubt, ask for the make of the tank and a quick google search will tell you what whether its carto, clearo or rba.

All three have their pluses and minuses and their performance can vary greatly depending on what mod and what juice you use.

For instance; clearo tanks dont usually do well with high vg juices. The wicks just dont have enough surface area to absorb thicker liquids.

For all of our progress in vaping, its still very much trial and error made even more complicated by having so many choices.All in all Id still rather have the choices

Personally, I love my carto tanks paired with my Provari. I use Smoketech 3.0ohm 2 hole laser punched flanged tank cartos from Smoktek.com in them and they perform consistently and reliably day after day with my high vg juices. They also offer more flavor than anything outside of dripping or a rebuildable atomizer (and those re just too fiddly for me)

And I just have to add that the majority of those who claim to hate a Provari have never owned one or even used one beyond a puff or two.The vast majority who finally get past the price and use one for a few days almost invariably say I wish I had bought one of these a year ago instead of throwing away my money on inferior mods.

If youre on a budget the MVP is a great device for beginners and even comes with a clearo tank included.